PIX is the worst most expensive's index link fund that track the performance of index.

Ha, if you can get 30% a year continuously, you will be better than Warren Buffett, he is only compounding an average of 15%-20% a year.

their bond fund are expensive, but their equity fund is doing as good as Public Mutual, the initial charge is 50% cheaper than PM, if u subscribe online thru their CIMB Click website, most of the equity funds only with 2.5% initial charge.

keen observation there!
if the fund manager is not a market maker.. unloading a huge volume will attracts unwanted predator(or even a market maker will feed on the fund manager's exit position)

have you traded professionally before? sometimes you can see alot of interesting thing via the level-2 montage trading screen..


asm/asw.. if i may biasedly say it.. it tends to give a sort of 'fixed income' kind of returns.. but becareful, your fees are much higher than pm fixed income funds.. go do the math!

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Added on January 3, 2010, 11:09 pmi'm glad you saw it too.. i balked at the cost structure when i was given a view about it.

This post has been edited by lwb: Jan 3 2010, 11:09 PM

Aikes! PIX or no PIX??? If correlate with FBMKLCI no good leh, as I think it is already too sugar high!!!

Pre-CNY rally? History-wise, there should be one but it's anybody's guess........

Anyway, I really got useful info from you guys. However, haven't decide whether I want to dump more money into PM smallcap fund!!!

Will sleep on it.....

PAEF = i did not invest in this fund but invest in Commodity ETF instead, cheaper cost to invest, 0.25% initial fees. Not available in Malaysia, but in Singapore /Hong Kong Stock exchange
PFEPRF = a good fund, i put 50% of my bet on this fund. This fund invest in Property/construction companies in far east + REITS.

you've a point there..
but my 2009 closing of PIX net me 39.53%.. i'm not complacent but neither am i complaining..

Yes, the initial charge are quite low at 2.5%, , but their management fess are like.. very high especially those they out sourced to external managers where you get hit with double fees, 1.8% for CIMB and about 0.6%-0.8% for external manages.

don't worry about him.. i think he's more into comparing penis sizes than really understanding the underlying how money is made from unit trust (from both the investor and fund houses wise)..

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Added on January 3, 2010, 11:18 pmyou putted 50%.. i've made 65% of out this fund... stim bo?
and i've exited PFEPRF already.. the jolly time for this fund is fading

This post has been edited by lwb: Jan 3 2010, 11:18 PM

You're brave. Our worst drawdown so far has been a little less than 10%. Like I said, it's boring lol, not 30% in six months or anything



I remember KNM and Sime and Uchitec, that was in his portfolio as well.



We pulled out just before the crash. His point was made, there wasn't any point in going on.



I don't even remember the profit. All I remember was the hassle, the panic, the uncertainty of it all.



Good for you then. I might be in mutual funds given the right time and opportunity, but probably not directly in the stock market. It's crazy to have to wait ten minutes for something to match.

This post has been edited by wodenus: Jan 3 2010, 11:28 PM

compare orange to orange, from morning star website, PIX's and OSK's KLCI index tracker funds 1 year return is both 47%
KLCI index initial charge is only 1%, compared to PIX's 5.5%, so if u invest 1 year anc cabut,
ur net return for PIX is 47%-5.5% = 41.5% return, wehereas for OSK product ur take home will be 46%

Not 30% continuously, just 30% this year (and this year has just started)

kennot compare liddat la..
your klci index initial charge is 1%... but my pix initial charge is 0%.. still tarak lawan leh

yes these funds are called feeder fund ( or fund of the fund as Bank Negara do not allowed foreign funds to sell their funds direct to Malaysian investors), if u can invest it direct via sinagpore /hong kong, you shd avoid it.
All the management fees of local funds managed by CIMB are normal. You can use these link to compare the charges/performance of each funds listed in Malaysia

http://www.invest.com.my:8080/personal/funds/compare/

Yeah, feeder fund are nasty, also local funds cannot invest 100% overseas. That's why all my international funds are from FSM singapore.

This post has been edited by gark: Jan 3 2010, 11:28 PM

how can u get PIX fund at 0% cost? unlessu r Public mutual staffs, even PM agent cannot get 0 initial charge

That figure is much reasonable. However this year i have not invest anythins yet, still waiting for the market to have some 'discounts; . Also planning to sell off some asia ex. japan and china to ready some investment cash.

This post has been edited by gark: Jan 3 2010, 11:30 PM

OIC u r also the supporter of FSM, i maintain account with FSM-HK. Their bond fund initial charge is 0.3%, equity fund only 1%, unlimitted free switching...very good deal.....wise choice.
Many Malaysian Investors do not believe cost of purchasing will affect their return in short/long run, and pay 5-7% initial charge to buy a fund....Ridiculous.

Aisey you buy funds cheaper than me.. u must be a gold/platinum member . Fund cost plays a big role in the final earnings.

+1
and if you look at cimb unit trust.. they're staggered in several layers.. the so-called wealth management don't exactly managed the fund on day-to-day basis.. it's done by an asset management company instead.. so, another middleman there already.. then they take in other fund houses' punya fund (aka feeder funds).. all a bit funnie lo