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cheahcw2003
post Jul 26 2009, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(clement8115 @ Jul 22 2009, 12:20 AM)
i submitted my online form on 7/7/09 yet still no news from public mutual...
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does anyone knows how long it takes to process the Public mutual online application form? i have submitted my form in PBB till now no news yet


Added on July 26, 2009, 11:22 pmi used to be a public mutual fund supporter, and i am a Mutual Gold member. But i already stopped buying due to the high entry fees (initial charge) of 5-5.5% for its equity/balance fund. Now there are many online mutual fund companies that offering at 2% or less for initial charge like www.fundsupermart.com.my, my question is will P. mutual lower down its initial charge soon?

another option is to invest in ETF like products, very low entry fees and annual management fees

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post Jul 27 2009, 04:30 PM

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Snowcrash, mind to share what funds r u recomending from fundsupermart.com?
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post Aug 13 2009, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Aug 13 2009, 01:24 PM)
facts ?  in every investment 5-6% goes to the company, half of them go to the distribution ie. agency ... so in every 1,000 transaction, investor lost $50 immediately and agency earns about $25 immediately, although sarcastic but his comment was NOT wrong.
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True, in the matured market like in USA/HKG/SG, the initial charge is not as high as PM's. most of their initial charge are less than 3% for equity and less than 2% for bond fund.

Besides PM, there are many other options available in the market now. Try to buy via CIMB Clicks or fundsupermart, u will get good rate, their equity fund initial charge is less than 2.5% or less.
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post Aug 14 2009, 05:57 PM

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PM Far East series have very good return for the last 6 months period. worth to try
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post Aug 23 2009, 12:08 PM

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I have gone thru the PBB website and found out the following info:

If you are a Public Mutual Unit Trust holder, you can pledge your funds as collateral to obtain additional financing for your personal use.
UNIFLEX offers:
•Flexible financing for Overdraft, Fixed Loan or a combination of both.
•Financing from RM10,000 to RM500,000.
•Competitive interest rates.
•High margin of financing.
•Loan tenures of up to 10 years.
•Minimum documents required.
•Fast Approval


is anyone knows about this products, what is the interest rate like for both OD and TL? what is the margin of finance?
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post Aug 27 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Aug 23 2009, 04:22 PM)
if i'm not mistaken, this is if you hold any funds in public mutual, u may obtain the loan, and the margin is something like 65% or more I forgotten...u need to check with the PB branch to confirm...and it is NOT recommended u use loan to invest...smile.gif
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am not using the loan to invest, just want to pledge the existing unit trust that already invested and get the OD for standby basis.
The current OD under UNIFLEX is BLR-1%, can negotiate for better rate if the amount is substantial. Will only invest using the OD if i expect the return is better than the cost of fund.
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post Sep 1 2009, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Aug 30 2009, 08:34 PM)
BLR-1%? meaning 4.5% for the loan? hmmm.... hmm.gif
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Yes, this is what i know from PBB damansara uptown branch, if u can find any investment with the return of >4.5% (like ASW, ASM) then u r better off.
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post Sep 1 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Sep 1 2009, 05:55 PM)
hmmm...mmm what about other fees? like is there any admin charges? one-time off fees? or stamp duty or whatever small charges ar?
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i think the cost is very minimum, they might have small processing fee of around 50-100ringgit, stamp duty of rm10, no need legal fees as it do not required any legal documentation, just need to sign up the Memorandum of deposits....to find out more, can call up PBB. i will do it soon.
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post Sep 16 2009, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 16 2009, 01:40 PM)
does anyone of you here received an "invitation" upgrade to mutual gold elite recently?

i'm weary of what pmutual is trying to achieve here.. it's like creating a layer of cost in the business..
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Probably u have achieved the elite status by investing > RM500K in the equity/balance fund. I have been a Mutual Gold members for years, and never get the invitation....hehe... Heard that investing in low loaded fund like Bond/Money Market Fund (even exceeded RM500K) is not qualified for MG Elite.
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Sep 26 2009, 11:52 AM)
@epalbee3
I am not a sifu but I have been with PM for about 10 years. In these 10 years, definately I am earning. I am afraid not many of us will tell you the figures but I can tell you the return is 6 folds wink.gif
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wow, incredible....6 folds gain, meaning if u invest rm100K initially, now u have rm600k? the only way of i can think of is switching between the fund according to the movement of the market, but 6 folds gain is fantastic, mind to share how u do it? I have been with PM for the last 10 years, i only able to double up what i have invested in 10 years time, not 6 folds.
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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Sep 30 2009, 08:38 AM)
Are they are PM funds constantly declare dividends or distributions of free units yearly? Any info?
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in my opinion, u shd opt for those funds that do not distribute dividen but to accumulate the earning to the next financial year, so you will see th appreciation in the unit price. This is because any dividen payout will subject to 28% company tax, only PNB funds got exemptions from paying tax, all other private funds are subject to company tax.
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Oct 13 2009, 09:07 PM)
Last time i know there is a website to track the performance of public mutual unit trust but i cannot find the link anymore. I bough the public far east few years ago but after buy the price seems to go down make me lose money. Long time din track liao now wanna know if got go up? ANyone have that link?
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http://my.morningstar.com

you can compare all unit trust performance available in malaysia
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QUOTE(miaomiaolala @ Oct 14 2009, 11:18 AM)
So does that mean if I were to invest in a new fund using PM online then the commission will also go to the consultant?
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yes. any new/additional funds that u invest via PMonline, the commission will still goes to the agent.
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QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 15 2009, 09:36 AM)

may i know what is the differences between switching and transfer?
both also required RM25 admin fee...
i understood about switching between funds....but how about transfer?
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IMO, switching means u switch from Fund A to Fund B within the same fund house. Some company like Fundsupermart allows free switching between different fund houses (inter-fund house). Transfer means u transfer the ownership of the fund to a 3rd party...
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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Oct 17 2009, 01:25 PM)
FBM KLCI at as 16 October 2009, 6:45 am reach a new year high of 1256.77points. Any comment in terms of effect to PM unit trust?
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if the fund is benchmarked against KLSE performance of course when KLSE index improved, the fund price will be increased also. say equity/balance funds. If the fund is Money market or Bond fund then there will be no correlation on the movement of KLSE index. Hope this answer your question....
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QUOTE(dannyme @ Oct 21 2009, 03:49 PM)
May I know which category of fund is PB Fixed Income Fund?
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Bond fund catagory
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 21 2009, 08:45 PM)
money market is suitable for long term or short term? if i 1 2 swiitch my fund to park somewhere when market bad until it recover, which is better, money mkt or bond? thanks.
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if i were u i will opt for Bond fund, the return is better than MMF, and bond are also stable and porfolio are widespreaded in many corporate/government bonds.
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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 22 2009, 09:22 AM)
hi all,
i have bought china titans since Apr 2008.
i only put 5.5k there, and now it's making 22%.
after deducting all the expenses, i have 800 remaining from my salary.
any advise on how should i spend it? should i buy another fund? maybe bond fund?? or any other suggestion?
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Maybe u can buy other equity funds since u already have china fund in your basket. If you are a risk taker, u may consider Public Mutual Far East Proeprty & Resort Fund (which invest in REITS and properties company). If u put in RM100 1 year ago, u will get RM200 by now, nearly 100% return. IMO, Property market in Far East is still doing good. If u are not a risk taker, can try the balance fund or bond fund.

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 22 2009, 12:57 PM)
Keep in mind that the performance will not keep repeating itself. Once the property fund has rebounded heavily, it will tend to slow down or even fall if there's another economical shake. Property stocks is very cyclical in nature.
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I agree, the historical performance is just a reference. Miss Vandoren asking about our opinion, and i told her mine.
The peformance of PMFEPR fund has been slowed down recently, but as other said, high risk high return. To my opinion, It is a good fund to diversified on top of Malaysian equity, bond and money market funds.
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QUOTE(glamoroussoul @ Nov 2 2009, 05:42 PM)
Many said that we should place our mutual fund for many years then only we can see the growth.
But is it secure to do so for high risk funds?

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it depends on what kind of fund r u buying, if u buy Bond fund, what u said is correct, with the accumulated dividend u can see the power of compounded interest after certain period of time.

But for equity funds, u still need to monitor them, the rule of thumb is to buy low and sell high. In order to do it u need to do switching from equity to bond to park the profit when market is at its peak, and to do the otherwise when the equity market is shrinking....some of the forumers here, if u refer to previous postings, can make 10 folds return in 10 years by using the switching technics. On the other hand if u keep the same equity funds untouch for the last 10 years, u may not get 10 folds return, probably only double up your initial investment.

The key things is u can't time the market, nobody could, so u need to set your target return/ cut lost target.

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