No doubt about it, best price/perf coupled with B560 motherboard for someone buying a new PC today.
Honestly I don't see it is any faster than the i5-10400F. The review didn't compare with i5-10400 "Max Turbo". I'm guessing very little difference just like the rest of the Rocket Lake CPU.

The more important products is the B560 motherboard which finally allows budget i5 to beat Ryzen 3600 + B450 combo which was out 20 months ago.

the memory OC is important, if you read what Bonchi said, his 10400f with memory unlocked on his Z490i handily beats the 3600, and gaming feel way smoother than his previous ryzen 3600 because of the better 1% and 0.1% frametimes. Now 11400F & B560 is guarantee mem OC which is very important. Some 10400F can have memory OC on boards like Asrock B560 but that is not guaranteed.
Oh power limit unlock is important too to lessen the microstutters iinm.

This post has been edited by terradrive: Apr 8 2021, 11:25 AM

I did like to remind fellow forumers what RKL is all about.
Read this and you will understand better.

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/mjc...the_rules_have/

11400f TPU article does show that it's barely faster than its predecessor.

No doubt it's the best bang for buck CPU right now especially coupled with a decent B560 and some decent ram, but is it soooooo much faster than its predecessor that it's uhmm... what did a certain individual say, 10-15% faster? Fuiyoh.



This post has been edited by SSJBen: Apr 8 2021, 12:29 PM

Judging from my personal scores, the 10400F in TPU review is on max power also, so not bad la if compared with 11400F on max power.

Afterall 10400F is pretty OP already for the price, damn hard to beat. Like my current tuned 10400F tapaod all Gamer's nexus 3950x 3200c14 gaming benchmarks

Welp don't get me wrong, 11400f is an amazing CPU for its price. Kinda hearkens back to the Sandy Bridge days when Intel still cared about consumers.

That said, the max power limit for 11400f on gear 2 is nearly twice the max power of the 10400f... and the temps are no longer "cucumber cool", defeating one of the main selling points of this CPU. Not engaging max power limit it is then cooler than its predecessor, but is barely any faster and in some cases actually even slower.

Yeah, when comes to temps, the 10400F is still super cool despite drawing 130w at max AVX with 72C. But running 10400F stock really killed the performance by a lot. So 11400F on stock able to achieve those result is pretty good. But in practical and ignoring cinebench, the 10400F is seriously a very tough contender at the price. Look at mine, it’s faster in games than gamernexus’s 3950x 3200c14

Guess 10400F is still the most solid budget cpu in the market unless if you bring in those 5000mhz Ram kits then things will change on the 11400F. Rocketlake seems to love running rams on DDR5 speeds.

Guess my next cpu will not be a rocket but rather a 10700K because it seems my luck of raw on my DJR DR is quite bad.. needs 1.48v to get it down to 4000c18 stable 10hour memtest. Cant enjoy 5000mhz with rocket on this kit

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 8 2021, 04:16 PM

I think the 10400F in the review is already on max turbo when you compare to his previous 10400F review. Infact most of the scores are so much better in this new review, maybe due to 3800mhz is used compared to 3200mhz.

Removed.

This post has been edited by keenie: Apr 8 2021, 05:26 PM

Definitely not Max Power otherwise they will mention it and also reflect in the Power Consumption page.
Probably better RAM I'm not sure why the better numbers.

nah, 4Ghz all core doesn't used up that much power. when i set my 8700k at all core 4.4ghz only uses like 100w on blender, 145w on prime95 stress test. Those power consumption at 4ghz sounds right

This post has been edited by terradrive: Apr 8 2021, 07:34 PM

If you compare to their 10400F review, the 10400F in this review is vastly more powerful. The new reviews are all 10+ seconds faster than the BCLK overclocked 10400F in the old review. And the 120w draw hints that it is in max power. Stock should be 85 ish w

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 8 2021, 07:30 PM

Not to forget, not many people would pair 10400F with Z490 motherboards. Most will be paired to B460 with 2666Mhz RAM instead of the review's 3800Mhz. Some Asrock B560 motherboards can run 10400F with memory overclocks, but that is not guaranteed feature and you are gambling on it. Why not just use 11400F and B560 motherboards where memory overclocks are guaranteed by intel themselves? So the proper comparison would be 11400F at max oower draw and high speed memory vs 10400F with 2666Mhz ram and max power draw.

Another good indication of the 10400F being run at max is this 10400F 3800Mhz ram gaming results are so much faster than ryzen 3600 3800mhz ram. Isn't 10400F been labeled as slower than 3600 many times last time, even with 3200mhz ram?

This post has been edited by terradrive: Apr 8 2021, 07:42 PM

cstkl1 also mentioned it too, the stability is way different.

10400F mem overclock B560 should be confirmed for all boards. If assrock does it, boostar, gaygaybird, missy, and asses sure will enable.

But the only reason why 11400F this time is definite performance uplift for a RM100 topup despite the higher powerdraw, and beastly superior ram OC (if you have a good stick)

Hi bonchi, need an advice from you. I ordered Alien R12 but the ram is 3200CL20, seems quite low spec. Would like to upgrade the ram to pair with 11900kf. What kind of ram spec is considered nice to take? 3200/16 or 3600/16 or 3600/14? 3600/14 is almost double the price of 3600/16. Scenario for a casual gamer, fps gamer. I understand that 3600/14 is better. Would like to listen to your opinion which would be the sweet spot to take. Thanks yo.

Im not sure if alienware motherboard allows ram OC. Better check that first before deciding. If wan cheap, good & power get the klevv bolt XR 3600c18.

The 3600c14 are binned samsung bdies, so of course they will cost double. That one is for extreme tier OC.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 8 2021, 08:48 PM

Need suggestion on budget to mid range cooler for 11700. Something that is better than stock cooler, lower noise and can support turbo boost with no throttling. Any option in the rm200-250 range? Thank you sifu!

Scythe Mugen 5 will get the job done. On par with Noctua NH-U14S. Anything more will need you to increase budget.

Okay, I’ll look into it.

As per Icehart shared his R12 11400/3080, it’s Z490 motherboard.

Also, I’ll Google more info about the RAM oc capability.

Thanks man.

This post has been edited by keenie: Apr 8 2021, 09:19 PM