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TristanX
post Mar 16 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 05:47 PM)
missing something inside really was missing 8Xpcie lanes on my B450 gaming plus...

On my z490i it is missing my free devil may cry game redemption laugh.gif
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Have to be careful buying it. Price on Rocket isnt encouraging though.

Someone get this from US.
https://www.microcenter.com/category/429496...processors-cpus

Too cheap to ignore.
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post Mar 16 2021, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2021, 06:04 PM)
Have to be careful buying it. Price on Rocket isnt encouraging though.

Someone get this from US.
https://www.microcenter.com/category/429496...processors-cpus

Too cheap to ignore.
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Yea man... the price of 10th gen intel is too crazy cheap. makes it very hard to decide between 10th gen and rocketlake.

Especially with B560... it open new setup option for 10700F which is $80 cheaper than 5600x but faster, more cores and now can run high speed rams.

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post Mar 16 2021, 06:35 PM

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guys, any idea when it's the 11th generation release? and what is the different between chipset b560 and z590, i see almost same features.

Bro Bonchi, you are right, i prefer go for more stability processor.
Actually i want try red team because nvr try before and want to feel that self experience. but after google around, hmm, i think better put hold on first and look around for other alternative.
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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Mar 16 2021, 06:35 PM)
guys, any idea when it's the 11th generation release? and what is the different between chipset b560 and z590, i see almost same features.
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Rumors points at March 30

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-roc...nce-all-we-know
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post Mar 16 2021, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Mar 16 2021, 06:35 PM)
guys, any idea when it's the 11th generation release? and what is the different between chipset b560 and z590, i see almost same features.

Bro Bonchi, you are right, i prefer go for more stability processor.
Actually i want try red team because nvr try before and want to feel that self experience. but after google around, hmm, i think better put hold on first and look around for other alternative.
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Red team's "fix" is coming soon but you will need wait for other people to validate that it is fixed then you need to flash the mobo bios yourself... However the problem with red team now is blue team is too cheap to ignore. Plus the B560 will change the price/performance game laugh.gif

B560 and Z590 difference is CPU multiplier overclocking and some additional features we rarely use like thunderbolt etc and general component quality. But overall if you not going to buy a "K" series processor. B560 is good enough.

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:22 PM)
Red team's "fix" is coming soon but you will need wait for other people to validate that it is fixed then you need to flash the mobo bios yourself... However the problem with red team now is blue team is too cheap to ignore. Plus the B560 will change the price/performance game laugh.gif

B560 and Z590 difference is CPU multiplier overclocking and some additional features we rarely use like thunderbolt etc and general component quality. But overall if you not going to buy a "K" series processor. B560 is good enough.
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i dont know how much of da bios will be delivered down the line..

Ah... su terbaik plug and play now

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 16 2021, 07:34 PM)
i dont know how much of da bios will be delivered down the line..

Ah... su terbaik plug and play now
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Thus must really wait for people to validate that the fix works and have no other side effects before jumping onto the bandwagon.
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post Mar 16 2021, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:38 PM)
Thus must really wait for people to validate that the fix works and have no other side effects before jumping onto the bandwagon.
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talking about rkl & z590 bro.

amd all smoke and mirrors.
just think about it. usb needs agesa update. its just a crazy thing ppl are accepting as norm
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 16 2021, 07:41 PM)
talking about rkl & z590 bro.

amd all smoke and mirrors.
just think about it. usb needs agesa update. its just a crazy thing ppl are accepting as norm
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Ahh.. I think it will definitely be blocked but perhaps just like B460, at least PL1 and 2 can be set to unlimited and basic bios and ring ratio settings.

Memory maybe will be challenging to push to the limit compared to z590 but from a basic user perspective, 4200mhz cl18 seems to be easily achievable from those china previews and IMO, that's more than enough.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2021, 04:16 PM)
My experience with Gigabyte on both AMD and Intel tells me to avoid it.
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QUOTE(llk @ Mar 16 2021, 05:30 PM)
So u banned Asus (due to pricetag) and now Giga, which brand do you want to ban next? 'Missing Something Inside'? lol
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ASRock?
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 06:25 PM)
Yea man... the price of 10th gen intel is too crazy cheap. makes it very hard to decide between 10th gen and rocketlake.

Especially with B560... it open new setup option for 10700F which is $80 cheaper than 5600x but faster, more cores and now can run high speed rams.
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But ASRock B560 berlambak di shopee hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 16 2021, 08:19 PM)
ASRock?
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Don't trust them either. Their 400 series chipset got crap VRM.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2021, 08:26 PM)
Don't trust them either. Their 400 series chipset got crap VRM.
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bro, so which good brand for b560, im planning to get when the 11th gen is out.
i'm thinking giga aorus ATX.
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:54 PM)
Ahh.. I think it will definitely be blocked but perhaps just like B460, at least PL1 and 2 can be set to unlimited and basic bios and ring ratio settings.

Memory maybe will be challenging to push to the limit compared to z590 but from a basic user perspective, 4200mhz cl18 seems to be easily achievable from those china previews and IMO, that's more than enough.
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4200?? go higher.

u be surprise what rm500(16gb)- 700 (32gb) can do


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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Mar 16 2021, 08:28 PM)
bro, so which good brand for b560, im planning to get when the 11th gen is out.
i'm thinking giga aorus ATX.
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Board not available. Get yourself a time machine.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 16 2021, 08:32 PM)
4200?? go higher.

u be surprise what rm500(16gb)-  700 (32gb) can do
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what ram is that? at what voltage?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 16 2021, 08:43 PM)
what ram is that? at what voltage?
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1.6-1.7.. 1.8v is fine btw
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 16 2021, 08:43 PM)
what ram is that? at what voltage?
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The IMC very solid. Can compensate crap ram with voltage... altho of course good rams can fly.

4200mhz cl18 can be achieved with very modest 1.4v. On very average kits. That's why i mentioned this number. But as ctskl said, It can really fly way above that if youre willing to crank above 1.5v
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 08:55 PM)
The IMC very solid. Can compensate crap ram with voltage... altho of course good rams can fly.

4200mhz cl18 can be achieved with very modest 1.4v. On very average kits. That's why i mentioned this number. But as ctskl said, It can really fly way above that if youre willing to crank above 1.5v
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go 4400c18 if u must.

klevv .

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