Higher max mem OC for 1:2 I suppose, that overcomes the latency penalty?

Just whack XMP and done.. intel not like AGESA as aib has more freedom. So most aib will set default higher performance mode out of the box, especially for z series boards.

TristanX
msi better on mid end. asus nerfs the training of ram etc

ram normally

i ask u dis. z490 10900k most users xmp latency 40s
only ocers known how to do 30s

1:2
rocketlake 79k aida latency 45ns not good enough?? lol

1:1
62k read 38ns not good enough??

Ok thanks. I'll look around with MSI MEG Z590 boards.

GODLIKE

Not extreme range. Mid range enough for me. I would go Asus Maximus if Godlike anyway.

Gaming temps 43-47C under 240mm aio... where is the gang who says intel runs hot

it's those stupid review sites that propagates that intel is a hot chip.
remember that dumb review initially done by anand.

Intel non K CPU clock speed is lower and running 240mm AIO. 11900K will be hot, just like 10900K. Die is 40% bigger.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-rocket-lake-delidded

This post has been edited by TristanX: Mar 15 2021, 08:26 AM

isn't bigger die means more efficient heat transfer to the IHS? So should be good for the temperature since people been saying ryzen is hot because the individual 7nm chip is too small to transfer heat efficiently.

Intel pushes their flagship chips hard. It will boost up to specified temp. I can guarantee you I can pull another 80ish celcius from 10900K on my 360mm. Ryzen is harder to cool due to higher W/mm2. They pack more transistors and more cores. Ryzen also comes with crappy idle power management. They boost too easily.

Anandtech review is not using final BIOS. Surely got more optimization coming from Intel.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Mar 15 2021, 08:52 AM

That’s expected for 11900k and also due to tvb but usually 80C on the 360mm aio will be 5.3ghz all core situation already which is frankly not that bad. Amd with PBO also easily hit those temps.

However due to the difference in boosting algorithm, especially in games, Intel will only run hot when you force it to load with stuff like prime and aida.

even a 5.3ghz all core 11900k will run pretty cool, there’s a video by the same channel that ran gaming tests on an ES 11900k where it is only hitting 47-55C while the ryzens are above 75C with a 240mm aio.

Anandtech review shows that avx2 load is peak 80c with a 15 year old cooler. They kinda need to purposely run the avx512 loads to say it is hot lol.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 15 2021, 10:03 AM

All I can say is any processors these days will make use of the temperatures. You get longer turbo when you have better cooling.

Sometimes I play MMO with 100+ players onscreen. Thats one of the games that push CPU.

Yeah, just wait for reviews using final BIOS. 2 weeks to go.....

This post has been edited by TristanX: Mar 15 2021, 10:15 AM

my 10900k 5.1 all core never went above 50c in games that i play and i think that is what matters to any intel user. As long as it runs comfortable for them.

Unlike AMD.

They retested with a newer BIOS. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16549/rocket...n-core-i711700k

Probably can still expect more to come after this.

Still got 2 weeks to go. And more time to reach our shores.

I'm looking at 11900K, Corsair H150i Elite Capellix or EK AIO 360, MSI MPG Z590 Gaming Force or Carbon. Price still will decide what I buy.

Have you tried AC Origins?

Some redditors say the only reason to buy 11th gen cpu is for AVX alone.

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Mar 15 2021, 10:40 AM

Not a game i play and not keen on SP games, my playlist is solely the latest COD. Even BF5 MP doesnt take it above 60c.

Nice, can't wait to see the MSRP, and kick AMD ass in upping the best price/perf.

Reverse of 3700X vs 9900k.

It will go up. AMD stopped undercutting with Zen 3. 11900K at RM2499-2699 is not unexpected.

And Z590 prices are nuts.