it works fine for windows 10 now? I had been holding on to old 8700k because lazy to move to windows 11...

I think they have fix it, I remember MS say will patch Win 10 for this problem. Not using Win 10 though so can't verify.

You can also try disabling the Intel iGPU see if it helps to reduce temps further, the less process is run on the CPU the lesser power draw.

Yeah, I might do that. Disabling 4 out of 8 ecores didn't help. Wanted to keep some ecores to do background tasks.

Finally managed to troubleshoot one of my unsettling problem. The rig sounded like a jet taking off when the cpu was at load. A high-pitch sound that I was not happy with. After investigating, it turned out that the fan behind the air-cooler was the culprit. Apparently, the back cpu fan emitted a high-pitch sound when attached to the cooler but the sound disappears as soon as I move the fan a bit out. Switching front fan to back also didn't help. No idea why there is this high-pitched sound for fans at the back of this SE-225 XT cooler.

Anyway, I was so frustrated that I took my old 12cm fan, remove the centre fan and used the frame as a "frame buffer". Drilled a lot of holes in many places to keep the weight down too. Then with the original fan clips, clipped the frame to the cooler and used cable ties to tie back the CPU fan.

As below.



Now even at full fan speed, the fans sound is much much MUCH softer at 100% even when the CPU is running hot at 70-80'c. No more air asia taking off every few minutes while gaming!

At least one problem solved.

This post has been edited by kmarc: Jan 15 2023, 05:08 PM

if your casing can support air cooler height that uses 140mm fans, should really consider switching to it, something like deepcool ak620 or as500. The SE225 probably has no issue finding buyers. I'm using deepcool assassin III, it uses 2 140mm fans but I only install one fan in the center of the dual tower, and set it to around 900-1000rpm. No need for max fan speed and the cooling wasn't compromised much, and most importantly it's quiet.

Just need to remember the AK620 some people complained about resonance when running the two fans, either install just one fan and adjust the fan speed of both separately. But i had to say the AS500 is not expensive and still good cooling performance too

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This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Jan 15 2023, 08:09 PM

Mentioned earlier that my first requirement is a smaller casing so any tall cooler or 140mm fan coolers cannot fit.

Ya, 140mm coolers cannot fit due to my requirements of a smaller casing.

ID Cooling stuff is after all, a budget cooler, so its understandable it will lack quality & silent fans. Since ur ady at the HSF thermal threshold, expect the fans to ramp up until near maximum RPM limit and by that expect a noise level in excess of 50 DBA.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooli...xt-black/8.html

For comparison, that is more louder than stock Intel cooler fan running at full speed @3100RPM https://www.club386.com/intel-laminar-rm1-s...-cooler-review/
So if you cannot stand the Intel fan, you'll go nuts with the ID fans noise.

But if you insist to keep that cooler, you can replace the standard fans with something from Arctic, or Be Quiet or Scythe. They aren't cheap tho and you'll still have that underspec 220W cooler HSF.

So I'd still recommend to replace that cooler with something that can cope with the CPU PL2 and usually these (260W TDP) are not cheapo ones like ID Cooling (expect to pay upward RM 2xx) but they will often comes with better & silent running fans. No point to have such an expensive system just to cripple it with an underspec cooler.

As for whether 140mm HSF can fit or not, some actually do can as certain brands have lower profile variants of their standard lineup but it'll depend on ur case height limitations.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jan 15 2023, 11:10 PM

SE-225 XT how this perform vs stock cooler? Thinking to get this. What is your cpu? The 1 fan that come with it actually push the air to heat sink heat sink? My last setup is 212 using pull and push do no idea for single fan setup

This post has been edited by eddie2020: Jan 15 2023, 11:25 PM

Yup. Was literally going nuts with the high-pitch "jet-engine" noise. Luckily managed to get rid of that. However, the rig is below my custom-built desk in its own compartment so not too bad fan noise. It was the high-pitch noise that i couldn't stand.

My custom-built desk, which is built-in, is the main reason for the casing restriction where I can't go for bigger casing. I prefer my computer to be under my desk in it's slot rather than on top even though I have lots of "real estate" on top.

Coming from an ancient intel 4790k, I never knew aftermarket air-coolers cannot tame new gen CPUs doing normal gaming!!! I had though 220w tdp was more than enough. Now that I know, next time can better plan for better cooling solutions. Like you said, need bigger casing or better coolers/fans.

My only concern is whether gaming at 70-80'c is good or not. Most games are well-below that so.... Will monitor and see.... again, can always switch to power saving mode if it doesn't affect fps.

And I just realized that power saving mode will restrict p-cores to 2.5Ghz instead of 5.4Ghz. Lol. No wonder can get much lower temps.

This post has been edited by kmarc: Jan 16 2023, 08:22 AM

No idea as I didn't research the cooler before I bought it. I had thought aftermarket coolers would have been enough. The Se-225 XT comes with 2 fans for a push-pull config. But as mentioned above, the pull fan emitted a high-pitch noise at high speed so not good. Unless I got a defective cooler.

Mine is 13700k.

This post has been edited by kmarc: Jan 16 2023, 08:20 AM

You can use back old casing in future . Get the best out there money can buy. Have a floppy disk usb design can upgrade in future.
I reuse back my silverstone tj07. Just upgrade the usb to 3.0

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Jan 16 2023, 08:54 AM

Definitely. I have like 4 computers in my house. Use and reuse is the norm. Hence the reason for going DDR5. Next time can pass it to my other rigs.

get the best cpu fan. can re-use also. Intel engineer use cable tie to lock it if different soket. Just change the fan if rosak. Heat sink can modify as your liking if you got big casing

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Jan 16 2023, 10:33 AM

Like I said, I cannot go for big casing due to space constraint for my computer compartment below my built-in computer desk.

My mistake for not telling my interior designer to make the computer slot bigger!

You mean use stock heatsink and change the stock fan?

They got good heat sink but different socket. Cable tie is the solution

did you try unvolting it? hmm i saw some videos stock voltage 1.3-1.34v, he set 1.23v and power usage dropped to 140w frok 200+w, 90C to 70+C on dual tower cooler. It can still all core P core 5.3ghz and 3 core 4.2ghz on his 13700k

maybe check others what's the common undervolt voltage for stock 13700k speed

I did. -0.1mV vcore offset in bios. So far no issues. Didn't try lower because didn't want to corrupt my windows testing lower voltages.