QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ May 8 2021, 12:44 PM)
What features are you looking for? Given that B560 allows for memory overclocks, I would think getting that board will suffice instead, and is cheaper to boot.
More than 1 NVME ports, I would love to have 2. Alienware only provide one. More USB ports and I generally find high end chipset has better motherboard design.
QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 8 2021, 12:54 PM)
TUF. But why not a B560 board? Or do you think you may fit in a K in the future?
still support msi despite their scummy moves?

I always have this impression that mid-range chipset cut short on ports and features. I don't think I will fit a K, unless Dell offers me a cheap upgrade to 11900K (which I think doesn't really improve performance that much?).
But I have question, will B560 allow me to adjust the TDP of 11700F? 11700F without adjustment constantly throttles down to 65W TDP, leaving my Cinebench result to a lowly 10k (lifting the TDP to 175W pushes the result to 13.5k). I see 5600X can do 15k easily.
QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ May 8 2021, 01:00 PM)
Couple random questions re: Dell prebuilts:
1) Does the XPS desktop use a short 3060Ti card, or is the GPU heatsink kinda full length like the pics of 3070/3080 cards used in their desktops I've seen online?
2) Does the Alienware have video outputs on the mobo and works with a non-F CPU? IIRC, they only ship with F or KF models here.
2. The Alienware R12 that I have, don't have video output. They have a type C output though I am not sure if you can use a type C monitor for this purpose though.