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post Jan 25 2008, 09:36 PM

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You planning on ordering from net?

It's always better to test it before you buy it. Especially if you're intending on using it as your main instrument and not for fun/show/etc. But I don't really think it's that much lighter than your regular RBX models. Just a little lighter. It's still solid wood after all. Just a different type of wood.
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post Jan 26 2008, 02:33 AM

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dude, it looks like an XboX 360 controller =.=

If you like it, why not?

But I personally prefer the "american" brands, so to speak. I prefer large fret scaling, and asian brands usually have smaller fret scaling (since we all have small hands, duh).
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post Jan 26 2008, 01:02 PM

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larger scale length? BTB !!! TRB !!!
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post Jan 27 2008, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(crazychris @ Jan 26 2008, 01:02 PM)
larger scale length? BTB !!! TRB !!!
Uhh that 1 you meant as in Ibanez' BTB range right? I think for Yamaha it's BB.

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post Jan 27 2008, 11:25 PM

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i was referin to BTB exclusively smile.gif

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post Feb 1 2008, 01:52 PM

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I held one of those Yamaha game console controllers at a shop, didnt test it tho coz i only saw it on the way out. It REALLY is light!!! I dunno if i can accurately say its neck heavy or not but i've been playing the usual basses all my life and it feels neck heavy to me. Not sure if the neck will dive when u wear it on a strap tho. As i know, the top n bottom sides and hardwood, sandwiching soft "tonewoods" in the middle. Dats wut makes it so light. I think it will will definately take the spotlight away from lead vocals/guitars when u gig with one of those =)

The yamaha shop in mid valley has one there, dats where i saw it, go n test n tell us how it is lar. OOh, and i forgot the shops name lar, only know its owned by yamaha music. They dun call the shop yamaha coz they also sell Fenders and Ibz there. But theres lots of Yamahas there of coz, a 12k BB2NE and a JM2 also. I tested the TRB1004, i like!!!! tapi 3.7k!!!! =(

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OOh yeah, any idea how much changing the nut for a J bazz would cost? Wuts better or more cost effective? bone? brass?

any tips on how to make a J sound as close as it can to a P without rewiring it? anyone? R korean made Squires good? Im guessing better than Indon/China ones lar, true? did any MIK squire P's come with basswood body?

thanks!!!

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post Feb 1 2008, 05:04 PM

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Not a Fender pro (far from it really...) here but I had my fair share. Can't really say about those bone or brass nuts.

Ps got some added mids growl (at least that's how I can describe it), I happen to own an old Yamaha ERB 300II PJ for years and had played both Fender and Squire Js and Ps. Thing is when it comes to tonal choices, I personally think that a J can easily cover that aspect over a P. Of course I can't say this out loud for everyone. Tried a J with hotter (I forgot which; Basslines or DiMarzio) pup set, it can give a P a good run but that still means that you should consider a pup transplant. The easiest method maybe is to notch up some more mids, level the lows and kill off the highs at EQs (choose your way; preamp or amp w/e works). Won't simulate a P exactly for sure but hey almost there is better than nowhere.

IMO these days, Squires are generally fine wherever MIx they'd come from. I'd just worry about the woods and assembly quality.

My 2 centslah. Let's wait for other low end gurus like bassraptor or bassix bros' posts. Should be interesting.

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My question is, why would you want to make a Jazz bass sound like a P bass?

A P bass is like meat, fat and potatoes. A Jazz bass is like that, but with leaner meat and enough room left for some dessert. Which means you can't have your fat and eat it ... smile.gif

The idea is to find the sort of bass that takes the bass out of the equation - it's just you, your hands and fingers, your creativity and the bloody amp. The bass does what you want it do to. Not all basses to that, but someday you'll find that bass, and then, you'll find it pointless to get any other bass. so keep playing and looking ... no shortcuts.


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And to add to that, here's a little story. I always wanted the P-sound. But i bought an L-2000 (because the colour was cool). And then a fretless (because it looked cool). And then a hollow-body with J-style PUs (because it also looked cool). Guess what, still no P-sound today.

Moral: If you want P-sound get a P.
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oh, i'm not a guru ... just a helpless sod struggling to play better bass. the more i learn, the more of what i already know becomes less significant ... so all i have is a backlog of insignificant knowledge, collected over the years. sometimes, it's nicer to be young and naive, and to be dangerous with what you think know for sure ... you can be gungho and impress the world that way ... smile.gif

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sometimes? Most of the time i would say tongue.gif hahah

But then there will be that time when a real guru comes along and just puts you to shame

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we all await a messiah ... smile.gif
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QUOTE(eq8all @ Feb 1 2008, 05:04 PM)
Not a Fender pro (far from it really...) here but I had my fair share. Can't really say about those bone or brass nuts.

Ps got some added mids growl (at least that's how I can describe it), I happen to own an old Yamaha ERB 300II PJ for years and had played both Fender and Squire Js and Ps. Thing is when it comes to tonal choices, I personally think that a J can easily cover that aspect over a P. Of course I can't say this out loud for everyone. Tried a J with hotter (I forgot which; Basslines or DiMarzio) pup set, it can give a P a good run but that still means that you should consider a pup transplant. The easiest method maybe is to notch up some more mids, level the lows and kill off the highs at EQs (choose your way; preamp or amp w/e works). Won't simulate a P exactly for sure but hey almost there is better than nowhere.

IMO these days, Squires are generally fine wherever MIx they'd come from. I'd just worry about the woods and assembly quality.

My 2 centslah. Let's wait for other low end gurus like bassraptor or bassix bros' posts. Should be interesting.
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I kinda did something opposite, to some degree. I hate how the strings all have different volumes because of the pickup's natural conditioning, and i can't fit an active into my bass (not that i want one tho). What i tried to do was balance out all the string volume with my EQ. Heres the story lol:
Mine came with a single P in mid position, so I started with an advantage. P already has a darker sound with more midrange and bass than a J, and it was parked in the middle, so I got an equal natural balance from the strings laugh.gif
so my EQ is now a / line.

Just me, but I liked the idea of balancing string volumes so there wont be an awkward change in volume as i string skip and jump all over the place.

I was actually wondering what would happen if you had a P at bridge and a J at neck, since that would be a natural balancing of string tonality and pickup attributes. Anyone has a bass with that setup?
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QUOTE(liew90kw @ Feb 1 2008, 11:39 PM)


I was actually wondering what would happen if you had a P at bridge and a J at neck, since that would be a natural balancing of string tonality and pickup attributes.
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civilisation as we know it would come to an end, and anarchy would rule. just about every album recorded with a bass would cease to exist immediately ... smile.gif

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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Feb 2 2008, 01:16 AM)
civilisation as we know it would come to an end, and anarchy would rule. just about every album recorded with a bass would cease to exist immediately ... smile.gif
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lol serious sikit laaa sweat.gif
i usually see basses with the following setups:

1. single J at bridge
2. single P at neck
3. J bridge P neck
4. dual Js


I don't think I've seen a P at bridge and J at neck before.
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QUOTE(liew90kw @ Feb 2 2008, 01:32 AM)
lol serious sikit laaa  sweat.gif
i usually see basses with the following setups:

1. single J at bridge
2. single P at neck
3. J bridge P neck
4. dual Js
I don't think I've seen a P at bridge and J at neck before.
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i would add double 'P' to this ... Warwick had a limited edition model and Fender used to make one in the 1980s. as for P at bridge and J at neck, Leo and his ilk may have experimented and found no merit to further pursue it ... which is not to say you still cannot persuade a custom maker, like GIM, to make a bass with a such a configuration.


there's also MM, J & MM, P & MM, double MM ...

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MM all the way!!! haha
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QUOTE(crazychris @ Feb 2 2008, 04:24 PM)
MM all the way!!! haha
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all the way where? make sure you don't get stuck in a one-way roadtrip ... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Feb 2 2008, 08:22 AM)
i would add double 'P' to this ... Warwick had a limited edition model and Fender used to make one in the 1980s. as for P at bridge and J at neck, Leo and his ilk may have experimented and found no merit to further pursue it ... which is not to say you still cannot persuade a custom maker, like GIM, to make a bass with a such a configuration.
there's also MM, J & MM, P & MM, double MM ...
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i was actually considering approaching GIM after a save up more money (no thanks to GASing lately), but I wanted to hear for myself what a bass with that configuration would do.
I'm still at the "let's experiment and find some weird wacky sounds" stage in my musical life laugh.gif

never really took a liking to MMs cause i think they look like super-sized humbuckers.

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I assure you that you will find peace some day, bro.




On a different note, I'm clearing my shelves, so have a couple of things left for sale - an EBS ValveDrive and Radial Bassbone Bass Control Centre, Onerr Flanger and Vox Cooltron Big Ben Overdrive. Any takers, pm me ...

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