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 CFMoto MT800, Based on KTM 790 Adv, same LC8C engine

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post May 31 2021, 08:06 PM

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Local prices in China announced already during the Beijing Motor Expo this week.

Base model (sport rim) ¥58680
Touring model (spoked rim) ¥62680
Flagship model (spoked rim + keyless) ¥63680
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post Jun 1 2021, 02:37 PM

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cfmoto msia said 2022 wor...
jan 2022?
dec 2022?

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post Jun 1 2021, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jun 1 2021, 03:37 PM)
cfmoto msia said 2022 wor...
jan 2022?
dec 2022?
Right now halfway 2021 already back to lockdown. By the time we reemerge, it'll be Q4 edy probably. So if the timetable is to be believed, end 2022 will be the safest bet... and even then I'd consider that to be optimistic.

In the meantime, the GC Ann sales guy keeps telling me the CKD V-strom 650 is coming in Aug. Then again, the same caveat applies lah... nak CKD apa kalau kilang lockdown?

Interestingly enough he says when it does happen, expect the price to be under RM40k. Whoahhh... Suzuki 650cc adv touring bike with legendary bulletproof reliability at Benelli prices? This I must see to believe!
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I tot suzuki and kawasaki already dead in malaysia. How come they want to ckd vstorm
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post Jun 18 2021, 06:16 AM

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Paul Tan's article says RM50k, which is expected.

Question is whether that's for the base model with the sport rim, the touring model with the spoked adv rim or the flagship model with the keyless ignition.

Here's hoping the figure's for the spoked wheels + aluminium luggage!

I don't know why Mohan Ramanujam here says the competition includes the Benelli TRK802 -- no such bike exists & Benelli has stopped mentioning this bike since late 2019.

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2022 CFMoto 800MT adventure touring range in Malaysia soon – pricing to be “around RM50,000"


Coming to Malaysia in the near future, likely next year, is the 2022 CFMoto 800MT adventure touring motorcycle range. Born out of a technical and manufacturing partnership between Austrian motorcycle maker KTM and China manufacturer CFMoto, the 800MT has three variants across a two model range, the 800MT Sport and 800MT Touring.

In the engine room is a KTM designed Euro 5 compliant 799 cc parallel-twin, twin-spark, liquid-cooled with eight-valves and DOHC, fed by EFI with ride-by-wire throttle. Power is claimed to be 95 hp at 9,000 rpm with torque rated at 77 Nm at 7,500 rpm, numbers identical to the KTM 790 Adventure.

Power gets to the ground via a six-speed gearbox and slipper clutch, with chain final drive. For the interested, the engine is built in CFMoto’s China facility under license, and is based on the previous generation KTM 790 two-cylinder mill that was superseded by the 890 engine.

Differences between the 800MT Sport and 800MT Touring include wheel type, the Sport rolling on alloy wheels while the Touring gets spoked wheels. Wheel sizing is 19-inch front and 17-inch, indicating the 800MT is biased more to the touring rather than the adventure side of things.

Braking is done by J Juan, with four-piston radial-mount callipers grabbing twin 320 mm steel brake discs. Cornering ABS is standard equipment as is cruise control and while no mention was made about riding aids, we assume traction control and ride modes is included in the electronics suite.

The 800MT Touring also comes with an up-and-down quick shifter, type pressure monitoring system, steering damper, hand guards, heated grips and heated seat, features omitted from the 800MT Sport. Also standard for the Touring is an engine sump guard and centre stand, with the 800MT Touring having a model variant with keyless start.

Seat height is set at 825 mm across the 800MT range and weight is claimed to be below 231 kg, with fuel carried in a 19-litre tank. Inside the cockpit is a 7-inch TFT-LCD screen with Bluetooth connectivity to the rider’s smartphone and navigation function.

For Malaysia, competition in this market segment includes the Benelli TRK802 and the Yamaha Tracer 900 while rivals from the continent include the Triumph Tiger 900, BMW Motorrad F850GS and the Ducati Multistrada 950 along with KTM’s own Adventure 790/890. With regards to pricing, Paultan was informed that efforts are being made to bring the CFMoto 800MT in at “around RM50,000, maybe a little lower.”

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post Jun 24 2021, 11:20 PM

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It says the bike will come to Msia first in early 2022. To what or whom do we owe that honour?

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CFMoto To Launch 800MT Adventure Tourer In Malaysia Soon

A premium yet affordable option in the middleweight ADV segment.


By: Enrico Punsalang

Earlier this year, Chinese motorcycle manufacturer CFMoto made international headlines after unveiling its most powerful and most technologically advanced motorcycle to date—the 800MT. For several years now, the company has been working with KTM in developing new bikes for the Austrian company, as well as handling manufacturing duties in China and neighboring countries.

The CFMoto 800MT serves as the first fruit of the partnership between the two companies as far as product development is concerned. The middleweight adventure bike is based on the same platform as KTM’s 790 Adventure, but has been packaged as a more affordable, bare bones alternative to the Austrian adventurer. Ever since the start of development of the 800MT, CFMoto had purchased the rights to KTM’s LC8 parallel-twin motor, as well as the 990cc V-twin that used to power the earlier generation of Super Duke.

Upon the launch of the 800MT in CFMoto’s home country of China, the rest of the world—particularly the Asian market—was eager for this new adventurer to venture over into their respective markets. At last, the CFMoto 800MT will be making its debut in the South East Asian market starting with Malaysia. Considered as an automotive manufacturing hub in the region, market trends in Malaysia tend to be followed shortly after by its neighboring countries. That being said, it won’t be surprising to see the CFMoto 800MT venture into neighboring markets such as Indonesia, Vietnam, and the Philippines sometime next year.

CFMoto is expected to officially unveil the 800MT in the Malaysian market early in 2022, with speculation suggesting that the bike will fetch a price of around RM 50,000, or the equivalent of around $12,000 USD. When launched, it’ll put up a fight against the likes of the Yamaha Ténéré 700 and Suzuki V-Strom 650, and likely make for an enticing step up from the 650 class of adventure bikes.

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jun 24 2021, 11:20 PM)
It says the bike will come to Msia first in early 2022. To what or whom do we owe that honour?

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CFMoto To Launch 800MT Adventure Tourer In Malaysia Soon

A premium yet affordable option in the middleweight ADV segment.


By: Enrico Punsalang

Earlier this year, Chinese motorcycle manufacturer CFMoto made international headlines after unveiling its most powerful and most technologically advanced motorcycle to date—the 800MT. For several years now, the company has been working with KTM in developing new bikes for the Austrian company, as well as handling manufacturing duties in China and neighboring countries.

The CFMoto 800MT serves as the first fruit of the partnership between the two companies as far as product development is concerned. The middleweight adventure bike is based on the same platform as KTM’s 790 Adventure, but has been packaged as a more affordable, bare bones alternative to the Austrian adventurer. Ever since the start of development of the 800MT, CFMoto had purchased the rights to KTM’s LC8 parallel-twin motor, as well as the 990cc V-twin that used to power the earlier generation of Super Duke.

Upon the launch of the 800MT in CFMoto’s home country of China, the rest of the world—particularly the Asian market—was eager for this new adventurer to venture over into their respective markets. At last, the CFMoto 800MT will be making its debut in the South East Asian market starting with Malaysia. Considered as an automotive manufacturing hub in the region, market trends in Malaysia tend to be followed shortly after by its neighboring countries. That being said, it won’t be surprising to see the CFMoto 800MT venture into neighboring markets such as Indonesia, Vietnam, and the Philippines sometime next year.

CFMoto is expected to officially unveil the 800MT in the Malaysian market early in 2022, with speculation suggesting that the bike will fetch a price of around RM 50,000, or the equivalent of around $12,000 USD. When launched, it’ll put up a fight against the likes of the Yamaha Ténéré 700 and Suzuki V-Strom 650, and likely make for an enticing step up from the 650 class of adventure bikes.
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post Jul 25 2021, 12:12 PM

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Now officially listed on CFmoto Australia's website.

https://www.cfmoto.com.au/model/800mt-touring

I think I read somewhere that CFmoto's KTM production line would have been up and running by now (Q2 2021). Reports are saying they'll take over the remaining production of the 790 Adv before making the upcoming 750 series.

That kind of explains why the 800MT shares a lot of the 790 Adv's electronic wizardry such as the 2-way quickshifter, Bosch cornering ABS, Bosch ride-by-wire throttle etc.

The whole lot probably come together with the LC8C engine, straight off the 790 Adv's production line. And that really ups the value proposition.

Anyway thanks to the OZ website, we now know exactly the diff between the basic Sport model vs the Touring model:

The cheaper Sport model has

1) No skid plate
2) No centrestand
3) No handguards
4) No spoked rims
5) No heated grips
6) No TPMS
7) No keyless ignition
8) No steering damper
9) No 2-way quickshifter
10) No cornering ABS

In my book, none of these is a deal breaker...! They're either completely unnecessary or can be added on once the aftermarket industry kicks in.

Still, it's good to know that even the Sport model retains the 7" TFT dash, Bluetooth connectivity, built-in satnav with downloadable app, Bosch ride-by-wire tech, riding modes (street, rain & off-road), cruise control, spot lights, adjustable KYB suspension, slipper clutch, 95 horses + 88nm torque.

Official 225kg wet weight is surprisingly competitive, which is a departure from the norm as Chinese bikes tend to be very porky for their class. Ground clearance is exceptional, only 10mm shy of KTM 790 Adv's 200mm, while the KYB suspension travel front & rear match V-strom 650's rear at 160mm the latter's front loses by 10mm and they seem to be fully adjustable for both preload & damping.

Interestingly... since the specs match up perfectly, I highly suspect the J. Juan brakes used in the 800MT are also the same items used in the 790 Adventure - on the KTM bike, they're branded KTM but the OEM manufacturer is... yup, J. Juan. I bet a whole load of KTM parts will fit... so the moniker 'the Chinese KTM 790 Adv' might actually be very close to the truth after all.

Bottom line, the numbers and spec listed on Australia's official CFmoto website look very, very, very good indeed!

Me, it's that fat, juicy 88nm torque I'm so crazy about... that's Tracer GT & Tiger 900 territory!

Starting to feel sorry for Suzuki & Kawasaki for being honest & sticking with their 650cc engine to stay in the 'middleweight' category, when the rest of the competition have outright cheated by digging out at least 200cc more.





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post Jul 28 2021, 09:00 AM

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Spotted, undisguised, on the road in Australia:

https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/deta...-sprung-130301/

Price & colours confirmed for the OZ market:

https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/deta...ing-soon-131187


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Looks very interesting.

Just hope it has a low seat option.

I don't have the legs for it. Even the 650MT is too tall for me. That one was a real serious temptation....at 28k.
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post Aug 7 2021, 01:39 PM

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news from china is

due to global chip shortage
first batch for chinese market est delivery ~31st Aug.

special models made according to order list.
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post Aug 15 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 7 2021, 02:39 PM)
news from china is

due to global chip shortage
first batch for chinese market est delivery ~31st Aug.

special models made according to order list.
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Deliveries have started. Seen photos out of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic of this bike being brought out of the shipping crate.

Anyway, here's a video of somebody explaining the diff seat height settings available with this bike. What I'm particularly interested in however are the innards under the seat -- the airbox with the slide-in air filter look like they could be the same as the ones found on the KTM 790 Duke. The overall layout looks the same, except the battery is a little further down the tail. Wonder if aftermarket KTM air filters will fit...

The seat height could be a potential deal-breaker. The V-strom has about the same seat height but it is manageable because the seat is narrower due to the smaller width of the v-twin engine (plus the seat itself has a shit ton of foam that can be cut away and reshaped for short riders). This one is noticeably wider which could make reaching for the ground more challenging.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1E64y1d7jD...937230894589144

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post Aug 15 2021, 04:18 PM

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CFmoto 800MT tank range test.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N44y1z77y...d_more_video.-1

TLDR: They covered 943.6km using 42.7 litres of fuel, which works out to an average of about 4.5 litres per 100km.

With 19 litres in the tank, that gives this bike a healthy theoretical tank range of 420km.
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post Aug 15 2021, 06:03 PM

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china buyers still hvn't received their bike yet. haha

this is the recent 4day test ride for journos there

https://video.h5.weibo.cn/1034:467011785084...670133639316480
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post Aug 15 2021, 08:14 PM

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I guess the Latinos are getting the first shipment, then.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CSjxnpbnjfL/...edium=copy_link
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post Aug 15 2021, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 15 2021, 07:03 PM)
china buyers still hvn't received their bike yet. haha

this is the recent 4day test ride for journos there

https://video.h5.weibo.cn/1034:467011785084...670133639316480
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The guy mentions that the bike has "no TC". I assume he means it has no traction control?

The OZ website clearly says it has 3 riding modes + ABS. I guess CFmoto isn't paying Bosch for that extra few lines of programming code to get TC until there's demand for it.

Funny nobody is making any mention of the phone app + Bluetooth integration and satnav, which are among the key stand-out features of the bike.

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post Aug 16 2021, 03:10 PM

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no traction control.
they ask cfmoto, no plans to include it.

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post Aug 16 2021, 10:58 PM

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Upcoming! What do you guys think of this? RM28.8k

https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/2021...ounced-rm28-8k/
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post Aug 17 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Aug 16 2021, 11:58 PM)
Upcoming! What do you guys think of this? RM28.8k

https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/2021...ounced-rm28-8k/
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Best ringgit to displacement ratio ever...!!

Beats the pants off the Benelli 752s.

Me, I don't like the ekor kontot tho...
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post Aug 17 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Aug 17 2021, 09:31 AM)
Best ringgit to displacement ratio ever...!!

Beats the pants off the Benelli 752s.

Me, I don't like the ekor kontot tho...
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Me too, I wonder who came up with this trend of ekor kontot...IMHO, it is ugly, no proper passenger seat and no grab rails...Not passenger friendly tongue.gif Plus the ekor kontot design makes the bike look front heavy. Not balanced

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