News broke that this model has now reached production stage, even though the launch has been delayed to 2021 due to the pandemic.

Apparently, CFMoto has been making engines & complete bikes for KTM so now they have leveraged their relationship with the Austrian brand to access the KTM 790 Adv chassis and the 799cc LC8C engine for a proper adventure tourer of their own. KTM is OK with it since they've moved up from 799cc to 889cc.

So now you've got an ADV-style bike with a KTM frame and a KTM engine complete with the hallmark 75-deg crank that pushes out 95 horses, full colour TFT dash, a 230kg kerb weight, 19" + 17" wheel combo, low seat height and cool looks penned by a KTM designer.

Motomalaya.net claim they were told this bike will enter the Msian market.

Better than hanging around waiting for Benelli's TRK800 - it's the end of 2020 but no further news of that bike yet from Benelli!

Adventure tourers seem to be the rage nowadays, a far cry from the 90s when hardcore face-down-ass-up 750cc supersport race-reps absolutely hogged all the news.



https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/cfmo...urce=googlenews

https://motomalaya.net/blog/2020/12/04/ini-...799cc-dari-ktm/

The Chinese assault on the adventure tourer market has given Suzuki the kick in the ass to stop being lazy and to update the V-Strom 650.

Although the current V-strom 650 model is technically only 3 years old, Suzuki's lazy decision to stick with a 650cc engine, analog dash, halogen headlights & incandescent bulb turnsignals means it will be outmuscled, outperformed and outstyled next year by the Chinese. So there's word that a major revamp will take place, using a brand new parallel twin engine.

I bet Kawasaki too will revamp their Versys 650 in response to the Chinese threat.

A little competition is always a good thing!

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle...ki-v-strom-650/

Biggest hurdle is to change mindsets and stigma against Chinese brands, My bro has the CFMoto 650GT and he is happy with it. Needs people to stick their neck out to buy a Chinese bike before Suzuki or Kawasaki feels any threat. Otherwise, they will just say, "Even with all those new gadgets, people still won't buy a CF Moto, no threat to us selling old stuff".

All for adventure & dual purpose bikes. Quite a lot of them popular ones are pretty heavy for me say even 650 versys.

Not sure which trails you guys do, i see some of them on my mountain bicycle, would prefer a lighter bike I can lift up myself in case of a tip over and a lower seat height ?

To be honest, very few actually take their bikes off road. Motor mahal mahh... siapa sanggup trash their ADVs like the angmohs do?

The ones who actually do, they ride scramblers.

The appeal of ADV style bikes is that they're not covered in shiny, fragile plastic like a traditional tourer (say a Honda ST1300), they hv crash bars, they're made to be loaded up with aluminium luggage & they're designed to handle shit roads better.

Taller ground clearance (due to the use of longer suspension & 19" rims) is what contributes to the height of these bikes, but I noticed that Chinese ADVs are consciously designed for shorter Asians in general by having a lower seat height than those from European marques.

This one can trash on Malaysian trials ? Hehe

Thigh burn special.

On the flip side though, it's this kind of perception and mindset that keep the prices of Chinese bikes low.

Works for me...!

Having owned a second hand TNT600 that I successfully whacked as a daily driver for a good 4 years, I got no qualms with Chinese bikes as long as they're reputable.

Was originally looking forward to Benelli's TRK800 but there has been no news of it since the launch of the QJ SRB750 that it was supposed to be based on a few months ago. Now CFmoto is hogging the news.

Couldn't take up any of CFmoto's offerings before because I absolutely loathe 180-deg parallel twins. And my next bike will have to be a comfy 2-up tourer that will look good while being abused by me (I rarely wash & pamper my bikes). Now that they're using a KTM frame & an absolutely wikked KTM engine, I'm actually pretty damn stoked and eager for this one to come along.

Otherwise it's going to have to be the boring old V-strom. Reliable as hell I'm sure, but tearfully unimaginative.

KTM CFMoto Partnership Finally Bears Fruit With 800MT Adventure Bike

A lot of KTM's tech can be found on this new adventurer.

DEC 13 2020

Those who have kept abreast with Chinese motorcycle manufacturer CFMoto, are well aware that they produce motorcycles for KTM across the Asian market. Not only this, but CFMoto also purchased the rights to a number of KTM’s power plants—chief of which would be the 790 LC8 engine.

Now, nearly three years into the partnership, CFMoto is finally releasing a motorcycle derived from the company’s partnership with KTM. We all know how amazing an adventure bike the KTM 790 Adventure is. Its low weight, punchy engine, and trick suspension make it an extremely exhilarating machine to flog around off-road. That being said, CFMoto has capitalized on the partnership with KTM, and is rolling out an adventure bike derived from the 790 Adventure.

The all-new CFMoto 800MT features unique styling, but carries over many engineering features of the KTM. For instance, the frame, engine, and suspension setup are very similar to that of the 790. However, on the face of it, the CFMoto employs a unique and appealing design language.

Unlike the KTM, the CFMoto 800MT does not come with an underslung fuel tank. That’s a shame, especially given the fact that the lower center of gravity afforded by this setup is one of the reasons why the KTM handles so well. Nonetheless, we can expect the CFMoto to be priced a lot lower than the KTM 790 Adventure, as is the case with all of CFMoto’s bikes trying to make a name for themselves in their respective segments.

As for the engine, it’s safe to assume that an iteration of KTM’s 790 LC8 will be propelling this machine. Perhaps tweaked with a different state of tune, and variations in terms of intake and exhaust, we can expect the 800MT to be quite the performer, especially if it comes with an enticing price tag.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/460004/ktm-c...tnership-800mt/

The wrappers have come off, now the bike is official.

The proper launch should be anytime soon, as per scheduled.

Love that metallic teal paintjob. The adjustable windscreen looks like it has a generous amount of travel - high up for touring or low down for offroading. No visible remote preload adjuster, which reminds me of the lesser specced KTM790 Adv S. Michelin Anakee tyres.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/466704/first...800-motorcycle/





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Wow, the bike looks really, really nice. Aesthetic wise, the Chinese manufacturer is already catching. up

At the recent Shanghai motor show.
Price for CN market will announce next month at Beijing mo or show. est 65-75k rmb.

I was planning to buy a V-strom once the travel restrictions are lifted, but....

... DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNN....

RMB65k - RMB75k = RM41k - RM48k. Niceeeee.... that's V-strom/Versys territory here in Msia. The nearest competitor is the base model Triumph Tiger 850 at RM64k.

The photos reveal that it comes with adjustable forks, a steering damper, dedicated USB charging port plus an additional 12v socket, a proper cruise control, a very cool full-colour 7-inch TFT dash. On the dash display, it looks like it comes with phone integration via Bluetooth (maybe got satnav too?), rider modes plus TPMS too although 23.5bar is impossibly high to be the tyre pressure reading.

The literature claims it has a 2-way quickshifter (upshift & downshift), IMU-linked ABS & full Kayaba suspension.

If this pricing bracket survives when it arrives in Msia, it will be outright **INSANE**. Never before has a bike under RM50k presented so many cutting edge wizardry! When chances are the bike will be as mechanically sound as a KTM790, the challenge therefore will lie in the reliability (and durability) of these electronic gizmos...

People can bash China bikes all they want but... man... this is definitely a giant STEP UP.



Reminds me of Kia at the turning point when Peter Schreyer came on board. There was the weird, old Kia before that, then there's the world-class Kia after that.. and ppl stopped laughing & paid attention since.

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Yep. Here's everything. The electronics worry me, coz not even KTM was spared from glitches.

Anyway, with the way the pandemic is going right now, I don't it would make any sense to buy adventure touring bikes before 2023. This shit will probably last till next Raya... if we're lucky.

KTM femes for glitches, oil leaks, and dash issues.
Maybe now it's made in China for the Chinese brand, it will be better.

Yeah... ironically the hang-ups that KTM has been having with their LC8c engine came from the production batches made in their Austrian factory.

CFMoto only started making that engine for KTM late last year.