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PJng
post Nov 13 2020, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:45 PM)
Yeah. This I know. Many places mention it.
I check at system information, it says unsupported. Does that means my mother board no support uefi?
But last I check with part number, it says my motherboard can do uefi.
Anyway the disabling secure boot is so that I can boot from the usb drive?
Your second statement means the partitions setup page equal to initialization of ssd?
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since that is new disk, so when install will ask partition it
and windows will make a small partition before C drive, 100MB or 350MB one
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post Nov 13 2020, 09:49 PM

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I have upgraded the following Thinkpads and others in my collections to SSD.

Lenovo / IBM

X32 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R52 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R60 - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X60s - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X61 - 128GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X61T - 256GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X220 - 256GB MSATA & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD
X200 - 128GB SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
T540P - 240GB 2.5 inch SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD
T61 - 120GB 2.5 inch SSD

Fujitsu

U1010 - 32GB with ZIP PATA to MSATA adapter

Dell

Latitude E6540 - 240GB inch SSD, 256GB MSATA SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD
Inspiron L502X - 120GB 2.5 inch SSD

HP

Mini 311 - 32GB SATA to MSATA adapter

Apple

Macbook 2010 - 256GB 2.5 inch SSD & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD
Macbook Pro 2012 256GB SATA to M.2 SATA adapter & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD

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post Nov 13 2020, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Nov 13 2020, 09:48 PM)
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since that is new disk, so when install will ask partition it
and windows will make a small partition before C drive, 100MB or 350MB one
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At This page I just click next nia right?
But why your drive baru 32gig? Lol
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post Nov 13 2020, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 06:14 PM)
Finally its time to install new SSD to my old laptop.
Will be using USB boot drive created using windows media creation tools to install new windows.
2012 toshiba laptop, satelite L850.

A few questions for dear techy ktards after ayam reading some guides on installation.

1. I understand i need to change the boot order to use USB first (or is there an option to boot from USB only once?), at what point do I pull out the USB stick to prevent PC keep going into first step of installation/booting from USB stick?

2. Do i need to initialise a new Samsung EVO 860 SSD? if yes how do i do it?

The more i read the more problems i scared might pop up...

Edit:
Just realize the 2.5inch ssd is 7mm thickness and my old hdd is 9.5mm, need to buy spacer?
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Since SSD offers much much faster read/write speed over magnetic HDD, you have a choice of cloning your existing HDD over to your new SSD. I believe Samsung will have a software to help its SSD user to clone over their old contents from HDD.

Try go this route and save some hours reinstalling legacy software that you have already installed over the years. This has not included copying over data files too, which can be done 1 shot thru cloning.

Cloning saved me hours of work when I upgraded from 240gb to 512gb SSD less than 12hours ago. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:50 PM)
At This page I just click next nia right?
But why your drive baru 32gig? Lol
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i just google search image
click on NEW, a pop up will say windows need crate a partition, accept it
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post Nov 13 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2020, 09:49 PM)
I have upgraded the following Thinkpads and others in my collections to SSD.

Lenovo / IBM

X32 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R52 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R60 - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X60s - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X61 - 128GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X61T - 256GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X220 - 256GB MSATA & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD
X200 - 128GB SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
T540P - 240GB 2.5 inch SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD
T61 - 120GB 2.5 inch SSD

Fujitsu

U1010 - 32GB with ZIP PATA to MSATA adapter

Dell

Latitude E6540 - 240GB inch SSD, 256GB MSATA SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD

HP

Mini 311 - 32GB SATA to MSATA adapter
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Did you have to use any spacer due to different thickness of 2.5in ssd and hdd?

QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:51 PM)
Since SSD offers much much faster read/write speed over magnetic HDD, you have a choice of cloning your existing HDD over to your new SSD. I believe Samsung will have a software to help its SSD user to clone over their old contents from HDD.

Try go this route and save some hours reinstalling legacy software that you have already installed over the years. This has not included copying over data files too, which can be done 1 shot thru cloning.

Cloning saved me hours of work when I upgraded from 240gb to 512gb SSD less than 12hours ago. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I know can clone. But I don’t have many software inside also. Mostly files. I already made 2 copies into 2 different external drives.

The thing I am a bit worried is the driver part. Some people say windows will auto find the right drivers for hardware.
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post Nov 13 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:55 PM)
Did you have to use any spacer due to different thickness of 2.5in ssd and hdd?
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Yes. Bought 10 pieces from Shopee. Cheap and good.
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:55 PM)
The thing I am a bit worried is the driver part. Some people say windows will auto find the right drivers for hardware.
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You see, cloning removes the worry on driver part, no? Why need to look for driver when you don't have to worry about it in the 1st place?
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:55 PM)
The thing I am a bit worried is the driver part. Some people say windows will auto find the right drivers for hardware.
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I wiped my driver and performed a clean install recently.
Everything works. Drivers still there.
Just need to update in Windows Update and under Device Manager.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 13 2020, 10:01 PM)
You see, cloning removes the worry on driver part, no? Why need to look for driver when you don't have to worry about it in the 1st place?
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for me clean install is to remove those bloatware
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 06:30 PM)
problem is i dont know when the installation complete?
ktard above say when asking me to type user name. i will see later
choose only? no need to move the boot order?
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when it say HELLO , PREPARING YOUR PC
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:13 PM

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if ur ssd is smaller than ur hdd tray, just jam in some paper or tissue. if ur ssd bigger, then ur fucced.

btw, remember to clear ur old os on hdd, using disk cleanup
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Easiest is clone the HDD la.

If you don’t want to clone and just want a clean install, then just turn on your laptop with the old HDD, plug in ur SSD through USB as an external, then format and partition ur SSD, then install windows on ur SSD using it as an external, then after it’s installed, swap the HDD for SSD and then boot it up lo.

Ezpz.
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 06:14 PM)
Finally its time to install new SSD to my old laptop.
Will be using USB boot drive created using windows media creation tools to install new windows.
2012 toshiba laptop, satelite L850.

A few questions for dear techy ktards after ayam reading some guides on installation.

1. I understand i need to change the boot order to use USB first (or is there an option to boot from USB only once?), at what point do I pull out the USB stick to prevent PC keep going into first step of installation/booting from USB stick?

2. Do i need to initialise a new Samsung EVO 860 SSD? if yes how do i do it?

The more i read the more problems i scared might pop up...

Edit:
Just realize the 2.5inch ssd is 7mm thickness and my old hdd is 9.5mm, need to buy spacer?
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1. windows 10 dem easy to use now. just d.l. it from legal source here
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10

2. disk management in win

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post Nov 13 2020, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 06:26 PM)
i just found out drivers for my laptop are all in
C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\TOSAPINS\COMPS1

already made copy in external hard drive
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Those drivers probably not for win 10. Download latest drivers from laptop website, safer that way. The most annoying problem will be win 10 cant access network due to driver problem.

Some laptop has disk cage that you can reuse for SSD. Else, you can use double tape, thick double tape, or velcro tape.
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:45 PM)
Your second statement means the partitions setup page equal to initialization of ssd?
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Yes. Other than partition and format, what else u wanna initialize? There's nothing else to do. What initialization are you expecting?
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kyogre @ Nov 13 2020, 10:13 PM)
if ur ssd is smaller than ur hdd tray, just jam in some paper or tissue. if ur ssd bigger, then ur fucced.

btw, remember to clear ur old os on hdd, using disk cleanup
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Ssd smaller. Intend to keep old hdd as it is. If ssd got problem can Pasang balik. Already got two external hdd to backup files.

QUOTE(NorAzdanNordin @ Nov 13 2020, 10:17 PM)
Easiest is clone the HDD la.

If you don’t want to clone and just want a clean install, then just turn on your laptop with the old HDD, plug in ur SSD through USB as an external, then format and partition ur SSD, then install windows on ur SSD using it as an external, then after it’s installed, swap the HDD for SSD and then boot it up lo.

Ezpz.
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Other reason I want fresh install is because I don’t have the usb connector adaptor. Lol
I read Can be difficult to fresh install that way also because windows don’t let you install another system when you are using it.

QUOTE(zemega @ Nov 13 2020, 10:25 PM)
Those drivers probably not for win 10. Download latest drivers from laptop website, safer that way. The most annoying problem will be win 10 cant access network due to driver problem.

Some laptop has disk cage that you can reuse for SSD. Else, you can use double tape, thick double tape, or velcro tape.
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Chebye toshiba no support my 8yo model anymore. Cannot find on their website.
Will try the tape method also

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post Nov 13 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 13 2020, 10:32 PM)
Yes. Other than partition and format, what else u wanna initialize? There's nothing else to do. What initialization are you expecting?
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I don’t know. Some website say if not initialized cannot use la. Bla bla.
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 09:47 PM)
Kasi chance la. Some people just not so tech savy.
It like hair can cut yourself why pay people to cut for you. Haha
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funny how you mention haircut. i cut my own hair as well. haha
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Nov 13 2020, 10:35 PM)
Chebye toshiba no support my 8yo model anymore. Cannot find on their website.
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Keep the old drivers backup for now. It's still possible to track down most of the drivers from the component manufacturers website.



You might need to ask other forums or Reddit on how to get the drivers for your particular laptop. What's the model number anyway?
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