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post Oct 11 2007, 02:22 PM

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damn. I can capture the IR/infrared signal from my sony ericsson handphone. But when I try to capture from the Qsteer remote control.. there's nothing, even after pressing all the buttons, including the nitrous button. I put it right in front of the dongle also cannot catch anything..

So now trying to look for alternative.

Hey.. you guys have any Universal remote controL?? Perhaps u can try to capture the signal from the Qsteer remote, then later on can play the cars using that universal remote. smile.gif) hahaha


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post Oct 11 2007, 03:50 PM

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As far as I know its in Jusco of IOI, Sunway, Midvalley. I saw it in Parkson Midvalley as well.



Wow.. found something on the qsteer but it's in japanese. Hope I can understand find more of the same.

Qsteer infrared analysis (jap)

After translation:
Every band there are eight blocks at all.
These blocks divide into into the first half four at a time and the latter half.
In other words, four of the first half completely with the same contents, the latter half is similar.

Those where you looked at the contents of block of the first half in detail are the rough sketch.
As for each block it understands that it consists seven pulses.
In addition, being long and short you understand in seven pulses.

Long and short of pulse may be divided by 3 types, is.
Then, when, H, you think 1 and 0 from long ones in order,
As for contents of 1st block of each band as description below it can write.

Band Pulse
A H000001
B H010001
C H100001
D H110001

Don't you think? here, you become aware in being regularity.
In other words, as for the pulse of first H the start bit which does not have meaning,
As for two pulses which follow to that at 2 bits type of band,
At 4 bits type of operation (in this case advance) you display remaining four pulses.
In other words, like below it is designed to be structure.


Band Operation

[b0] [b1] [m0 m1 m2 m3]
Band bit b0 and b1 display the type of band.

Band b0 b1
A 0 0
B 0 1
C 1 0
D 1 1


In addition, when pushing down each button of the controller,
Operational bit m0, m1, m2 and m3 were inspected.
When it collects, it became like below.

Operation m0 m1 m2 m3
0 0 0 0
F 0 0 0 1
B 0 0 1 0
L 0 0 1 1
R 0 1 0 0
F+D 0 1 0 1
F+L 0 1 1 0
F+R 0 1 1 1
F+L+D 1 0 0 0
F+R+D 1 0 0 1
B+L 1 0 1 0
B+R 1 0 1 1
B+D 1 1 0 0
B+L+D 1 1 0 1
B+R+D 1 1 1 0
D 1 1 1 1
* F...Advance and B...Retreat and L...The left, R...The right, D...Dash


It returns to the first figure, but among eight blocks, at a time the first half and four the latter half are the same contents.
Four of the first half changes in accordance with the chart ahead with the depression state of the button.
However, you push down four the latter half, always it becomes the same contents depending upon state.

Band Operation
H
b0 b1 1 1 1 1

It is constituted from thing, the start bit, the band bit and the operational bit which are formed at 7 bits,
The time interval and the like which is during blocking is the same as the first half.
However, the operational bit is locked 'to 1111'.
By the way, when pushing the dash button, it is the same as the thing.
Why, as for the person who understands whether it becomes this kind of complicated specification, it isn't?

Constitution of the signal understood temporarily.
After with each bit and timing of block shank.
This a little is complicated, but...


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Infrared signals to watch noticed that.

Controller or around the left and right buttons simultaneously pressed,
I pushed the button to dash alone to figure out the same signal as you think.
In other words, if the A band, "H001111".

Also, is not convinced that the operation when the "brakes" on it.
He absorbed in the operation and the occasional sudden braking it is not?
At the time, a little warm, do not press the button simultaneously?

In addition, the signal is, sometimes, but "runaway" (laughs).
I just switched to the battery overnight because it is not?
Long after the game ended submit to remain for the weak batteries.
"Brakes" signal in the notice. Evil (laughs).


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Another translated Analysis
analysis 2

When buying QSTEER with entry before, what you think analyzing, the remote control cord/code that you tried probably to play you wrote, but being to become the just a little air it tried searching. With, the っ it came and by his wrote, whether it will try analyzing, the っ て page most was issued on and the ちゃう did, those forced and the page was not found.

Whether with "is disgusted with the notion that where you say and ゃ no one is done the ぁ? ? ? "With thinking, placing the remote control receptor in the breadboard and connecting to the oscilloscope it tried observing. Because as for secondary modulation frequency of the infrared ray seeing, increase it is, such a high part there is no either reason which you use, how you try probably there is no problem with せ 38kHz. Also the receptor which was used in analysis is something of 38kHz.

Qsteer With being the case that it is said, becoming such feeling, it increased. When in L having fallen has appeared the infrared ray pulse of 38kHz, it becomes. Because it is different from remote control something of the standard televisions considerably, temporarily temporarily like under the figure it made to call the sequence 1, 0 respectively. Because it is the ripple mark which comes out of the receptor, if it does not produce the ripple mark of this sort perhaps and it puts out also the て, with 1:2:4 400 μ sec as 1 unit, it reacts, whether it is it is not, with you think.

Well, from here it becomes correspondence of the button and the cord/code. When the leader of 1.8ms it is attached, entirely it is simultaneous to consist of the cord/code of 6bit. First 2bit seems that becomes the cord/code of A - D. A:00 B:01: It becomes C:10 D:11. Because is, example in this figure when being C, becomes the cord/code. The remaining 4 bits with the reason which is meaning in every bit are improbable. Combining, the variety it tried pushing, but it seems that becomes like below.

0000: Unused?
0001: It moves forward
0010: It advances to rear
0011: The steering wheel just is turned on the left
0100: The steering wheel just is turned on the right
0101: Dash before
0110: Turning the steering wheel on the left, it advances
0111: Turning the steering wheel on the right, it advances
1000: Turning the steering wheel on the left, dash before
1001: Turning the steering wheel on the right, dash before
1010: Turning the steering wheel on the left, it goes backwards
1011: Turning the steering wheel on the right, it goes backwards
1100: Dash to rear
1101: Turning the steering wheel on the left, dash to rear
1110: Turning the steering wheel on the right, dash to rear
1111: Only dash probably will put out, left and right simultaneous and the undefined cord/code of the front and back simultaneous pushing and the like (the stop cord/code, is)

When with with the notion that where you say, in addition spare time is possible, making even with controller, the combining ぇ which plays. : -)

From above taking with the camera, while the picture analyzing, when the automatic control it is possible, funny so the shank.

# When it tried searching for the second time, it was found. Properly A - Being analyzed to the gap between the cord/code with D, don't you think? this one is perfect.

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analysis 3


Q-STEER (queue/cuesteering)is チョロQ which does control with the infrared ray which the タカラトミー corporation sells.
The result which was analyzed here concerning the infrared ray signal which is used in the control of this Q-STEER is placed.
It cuts off once, but as for the contents which are written here being not to be formal ones, being perhaps, there is a part which are wrong in part and misunderstands, please note.
The infrared ray signal of Q-STEER is designed to be the same structure as the signal which is used basically with general remote control.
(Being even in the, to be various specifications most general remote control, it is not the case, like this of everything, is, but.)
By the way, IrDA of the communication standard which similarly uses the infrared ray those which have been explained here has done the structure which is different completely, but in addition as for that furthermore difference story.

First viewing first some ripple mark is really forwarded from the controller.
This with band A "is the ripple mark when" "advance" is done.

Two same signals are drawn, but it is 1 set with this.
The first ripple mark and the 2nd ripple mark completely are the same, but time interval between the ripple mark differs depending upon the band which has been used.
While pushing the button of the controller,this 1 set is repeatedly forwarded at period 100 [ms ].
When one signal ripple mark is received, for a while between (0.5 [ s ] extent?) Because the movement which is appointed is continued, failing to receive the signal of one gloss two, immediately, it does not stop.

It explains concerning the part where the signal is small next.

Wave length of each ripple mark as written on, is the meaning which produces the infrared ray in the red part, but this time luminous element expectation - the っ shining, is not る reason and the て to be small repeatedly blinking it is.
This is called the carrier, it is, but as forthis carrier frequency 38 [ KHz ] front and backwe would like to see, is.

With Q-STEER 1 is distinguished with 0 of the bits due to the difference of luminous time.
Which of the one and shorter one whose luminous time is long as a bit 0 it is good, it is but (on development side it is husband who is defined clearly, but there is no expedient which knows that being), immediately here it designates shorterone as bit 0 inthis.
Bit 0
Bit 1

As for "the header" with those in order to detect the first position of the signal ripple mark, there is no meaning above that.

"The band" takes a state where it corresponds to the band where the controller which was transmitted is set.
Band A 00
Band B 01
Band C 10
Band D 11

The "control code" takes a state where it corresponds to the button which is pushed with the controller.
0000 Unused?
0001 ↑
0010 ↓
0011 <-
0100 ->
0101 ↑ ↑
0110 ↑ <-
0111 ↑ ->

1000 ↑ ↑ <-
1001 ↑ ↑ ->
1010 ↓ <-
1011 ↓ ->
1100 ↓ ↓
1101 ↓ ↓ <-
1110 ↓ ↓ ->
1111 Danger signal

"↑ ↑" "↓ ↓" has displayed dash advance and dash retrogression here.
When the "danger signal" is transmitted, when separating the button, separates the button because of this it is the case that it is stopped at once.
By the way when invalid button operation is done even, the "danger signal" is transmitted.

From end of 1st ripple mark of signal as for time interval between to header of 2nd ripple mark,
Band A 8 [ ms ]
Band B 20 [ ms ]
Band C 32 [ ms ]
Band D 44 [ ms ]

Generally interval of this extent has been less crowded.
Assuming, that at each band the infrared ray was forwarded accidentally with the same timing, with this differential time it is the case that you avoid the fact that it becomes operation impossible.
When as for communication with the infrared ray as for the communication which uses radio wave compared to it tries we will have the quality which is similar to the communication which is done with wire probably to do plural communication simultaneously the signal blends and communication stops impossible.
This is evaded, there is a method of dividing frequency (spectrum of light/carrier), but in that case it meaning that burden of receiving end increases incommensurablly normally doing time sharing, it does plural communication.

For example when band other infrared ray remote control is used with the scene where 4 Q-STEER controllers of A - D have forwarded the infrared ray, that remote control becomes unserviceable, probably will be and, also Q-STEER stops and/or moves and/or with becomes to say, probably will be.

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post Oct 12 2007, 10:12 AM

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1st try for the bar. At least give a starting inspiration or idea.

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post Oct 17 2007, 12:41 PM

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Walaue, 1 time big damage to jady's wallet or purse wink.gif haha. Is jady a gal or guy ar?

Ei.. the sales on till when ar? I thought wan 2 buy 1 more to mod something else.
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post Oct 17 2007, 01:14 PM

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Wa, jady is in Johor. I am also not sure where is the other's location, so would take some time to discuss places to meet and run the cars.

Dream..
set up a mini Akina mountain wif 5 hairpins, scaled down to Qsteer size icon_rolleyes.gif .
Or Irohazaka. then can practice jumping the cars down. blink.gif
Or tsukuba. then can jump 2 wheels over the drain cover. wink.gif
Or shoumaru, try to overtake each other on the narrow road.

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post Oct 18 2007, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(br0ther9630 @ Oct 18 2007, 09:56 AM)
wah jady u rich lah haha tongue.gif  is the yellow skyline nice? i really like that model, but i dont really like the calsonic that comes with it... and is it me or does qsteer really like to come out with lots of Skyline models?? where are the supras, acura, nsx, fairlady z?? i like skyline but too much of one thing is not very good haha
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The fairlady Z in orange color is available, but jusco didn't bring them in lor.

here are a few more interesting Q's.
poochoro2.blog28
a nice qsteer japanese blog

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post Oct 18 2007, 01:32 PM

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Haha.. I've got another idea to try.

U know those paper cutout models? where you can print on A4,then fold to make a shape of a car. So I thought of finding 1 which is suitable size, then print the paper 1, after that trace it on a transparency sheet and cut out the plastic version!! So in this way, we are not limited to the bodyshells from tomy alone. The transparent shell could be quite unique. drool.gif .

jaguar XKR diagram

WOW! so many car model diagrams here

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post Oct 18 2007, 02:44 PM

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it's tiring looking in the pages 1 by 1 lor. haha.. but I will put on the 1st page any that i can find. Please PM me the links also if you think it's worth to be placed on the 1st page. I put the person's name in [] so if anyone has questions, will know who to ask. rolleyes.gif OK,just updated the first page, please check.

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post Oct 19 2007, 09:29 AM

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Yesterday i was at jusco midv. Most of the Corvette and Reebok boxes there are opened with the motors stolen. doh.gif
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post Oct 20 2007, 09:40 PM

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Jady, I am guessing that the LEDs itself is blinking and no need for complicated electronics or additional components.

I bought 2 blinking LEDs today at at electronics store in Puchong for Rm2.40 a piece. It will automatically alternate between blue and red color. U just need to put the +ve and -ve correctly. I also bought 2 small head white color LEDs for 80 cents each.

There was also an LED which you can choose which color you want, but it has 3 legs. If you connect left and center, it's yellow. If you connect right and center , it's red.

Still need to find out how to have 2 which lights up alternatively. Just now I forgot to ask how to do this. Maybe another person here can ask this question while shopping at some electronics shop lor.


Added on October 20, 2007, 9:46 pm
QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 20 2007, 04:56 PM)
jady , can show us how to do it??  Althought got the image but still don't understand for that.
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No need to understand the image. Just do it on one of your Qsteers. As she said, open back detach front. Haha.. I terbalik, I will cut front then unhook the back. It's easy, don't worry.

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post Oct 22 2007, 01:15 PM

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aiya.. then get one of the lady attendants to open the cabinet for you lor ;P.

By the way, i saw in a sg forum, the guy state the prices, probably in SGD:

"price varies.special sets tat come with 2 cars-2r-motes like the inital D set cost $59.95,while normal single car-single r-mote sets cost $24.95.And lastly if getting the cars solely without r-mote is $16.95."

"Bugis have the AE86/RX-7 combo, I bought mines (WRX/EVO) at Isetan Scotts.
$50++!!!! my gosh..... "

From Qsteer SG forum1


How much does each cost?
1. Car (without remote control) @ S$16.95
- Including Mazda RX8 (white), Honda Stepwagon (red postal car), Subaru360 (police car), Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 Nismo, Toyota bB (Black) & more

2. Car (with remote control) @ S$24.95
- Mazda RX8 (red), Mitsubishi Evo VIII (yellow), AE86, Bonnet Bus, Toyota Estima, Subaru Impreza WRX,

3. Twin Cars Set (with coloured remote control) @ S$59.95
- Initial D AE86 & RX7, Mitsubishi EVO VIII & WRX WRC05 Edn, Police Car+Ambulance Emergency Edition & Nissan Skyline R32 & R34 Rally Edition

4. Car (with high speed motor/spin-wheel tyres accessories) @ S$29.95
- Convette (high speed engine & gear), Nissan Reebok GT-R R32 (high speed engine), GT-R KPGC10 (spin-tyre)

from Qsetter Sg forum 2


Look's like our jusco is still cheaper by alot. blush.gif Suddenly I think we malaysian got lucky.

Hey! is the black corvette same price as the Reebok skyline or cheaper? I think should be cheaper since it's just a normal motor BUT high speed gear.

(addede 1 more new blog i found: 糸工巾冒's Choro Q)

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post Oct 22 2007, 04:19 PM

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I saw the corvette Qsteer C3 black selling for RM49.90. If tat's like a wrongly tagged price and should be Rm69.90, then I will go get it now smile.gif) hahaha..

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QUOTE(SiRCRX @ Oct 22 2007, 08:44 PM)
Corvette C3 set IS RM49.90  biggrin.gif
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Icic. Like that, then i need to change the 1st page, on the pricing. Cause the Corvette was listed in the same category as the Reebok. The Corvette has the NORMAL speed engine + high speed gear. It doesn't have that high speed engine.

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Updated the places to buy on 1st page, as I saw qsteers selling at 6th Floor Sg Wang. This Litt Tak Gundam shop next to stardust memories has some clean undamaged stock of Qsteers and ChoroQs.

Ya, hitsugayat10, not all models of Qsteers are available here, so you may want to swap car bodies with the choroQ's.

Jusco also has to take some responsibilities for the stolen, vandalized stuff. They should have put then into a cabinet once they detect 1 or 2 spoilt one's. But maybe Tomy only provide cabinets for choroQ and not Qsteers, so that's why the 12.90 items are protected but the Rm39.90 items are not. Or lack of space? Sogo's Isetan stock is bad as well. Some of the choroQs have a layer of dust on them already. hmm.gif

Abit more to finish my mods for the Rx-8, paint the gt wing and rims. Pics next week icon_rolleyes.gif I found that the Gunze thinner can easily remove the paint off the Qsteer's body. But the smell is bad.. dry.gif

I want a 350Z n Silvia, Xanavi GT-R, S15 silvia, Pink Volkswagen !! haha.

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post Oct 30 2007, 09:12 AM

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Jumbo ChoroQ!!..

I saw this at ToyCity Mines, i think it was selling for RM59.


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Here are the ChoroQ's I found at Midvalley ToyCity.

The jumbo is Rm59.90. You can compare the size with the mercedes that i put beside it. There is that Jumbo FireEngine box on top as well with a walkie talkie??.

The red background choroQ is Rm29.90 and it uses batteries. I guess you don't need to pull back, the batteries will keep the wheels moving. There are other accessories like launch pad, plastic tracks available as well.

Seems like the ChoroQ's are a pretty old thing. Probably 3 to 4 years old already. The Qsteers are like another branch of the same idea.

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QUOTE(wandiana @ Oct 31 2007, 10:08 AM)
the jumbo only got 1 model?  hmm.gif
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No, here's another jumbo Choro-Q
Jumbo Choro at HLJ

QUOTE(jady @ Oct 31 2007, 10:26 AM)
is that an imitation of TOMY? i dont see the tomy brand on the package..
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On the Box is Takara. Original idea is Takara, but later Takara and Tomy merged in 2006 to be Takara Tomy. So I guess all the choroQ's before the merge will be Takara and not Takara Tomy. These stuff at Toycity should be original as well.
Official Merging Message at TakaraTomy

on another wiki, choro seems to be from a general japanese term. So there are other choro's that are not made by Takara Tomy like those from Aoshima, M-Creative.



ahaha.. I also bought a 1/24 takahashi RX-7 FC3S yesterday at Midv. Haven't seen this on sale before, so I just had to buy it even though the price is high. sad.gif Damn ToyCity. Will start to paint and work on this soon.

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post Nov 2 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(br0ther9630 @ Nov 1 2007, 06:24 PM)
anybody realised that the rack at midvalley, the bottom part sells something called Choro-q Deck System?
it like a build it yourself choro-q and you race it on some tracks just like those tamiya 4x4.. but the bodies are not based on real world cars. well if somebody wanna mod their qsteer to look like .. non real world cars.. i think can get those haha
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Yup. I saw this as well. haha.. if this attracts you, then buy it la. It's not my kinda cars though wink.gif. haha



Walaue SiRCRX, big collection!. Somemore got special display casing notworthy.gif . Now u can reply after my reply and put up more pictures. lol: 1 post you have include a few pictures mar. no need 1 post 1 pic.

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post Nov 5 2007, 02:15 PM

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wah.. shit.. i dun have j card. otherwise can get another 1 or 2 cars. But sad that no new models brought in.

haha.. happie.. today will hopefully get to collect new digital cam. tomorrow i post pics. haha.
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Received new camera yesterday, the honestly great Panasonic TZ3.. which i still learning how to use it. sweat.gif

So here's the RX-8 with custom gt wings, painted hood, gold rims.



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