i also thinking the same.

look like 12 & pro only the camera got 1 more...
12 enough for me...no need pro...
mini screen too small..

- lidar
- third telephoto camera
- ProRAW for the photo
- nicer stainless steel material
- 128GB base storage
- 6GB RAM vs 4GB
- on apple's website, 12 pro has typical max brightness at 800nits (1200nits max) vs 12's 625 nits (1200nits max), because 12(LG) oled display is from different manufacturer than 12
pro(Samsung)
- 12 pro is 25 grams heavier
- 12 don't have night mode portrait
- 12 dolby vision video recording limited to 30fps vs 12 pro's 60 (normal video recording mode for 12 still have 60fps for 4K)

with same storage 128GB, the price difference is rm800

looks like 12 have some features artificially restricted...

This post has been edited by terradrive: Oct 16 2020, 06:43 PM

from the list,
only want the 6gb ram...
the rest i not always use as seldom take picture...

apple is too sneaky this year...
the 64GB base storage for 12 series, I also not sure if 12 mini will be enough size for me. If 6.1" pula too close to the 12 pro in price, then again 12 pro 6.1" loses out on sensor stabilization and the 2.5x telephoto zoom...

Am also not a photography enthusiast. I just want the bigger battery and display size of the Pro Max.

If we use different charger than the one from apple, will it affect the iPhone's lifespan?
I've heard from someone before that we should only charge an apple phone with an apple charger. How true is that?

Apple themselves that said should get charger from third party like anker and etc in the name of environment friendly. Just like power bank and type C cables, best get the one certified and not the cheapo ones you find in shopee or Mr.DIY

Or like you said, paid extra to Apple for the charger for peace of mind

No, just make sure you get from reputable manufacturers for peace of mind. Quite a number of third party manufacturers costing anywhere from RM20 - RM150. The Apple 20W one at RM99 isn't a bad choice either if you really need one.

This post has been edited by attw: Oct 17 2020, 08:35 AM

Totally agree with you. USB-C plug is standard spec so don't really need MFI ever, just as long as manufacturer is reputable.

Ya, I've got an Aukey one which I bought at half price during a flash sale but I've also got a cheapo Ugreen one that's about RM30 and both working well so far. No issues

I also have an older iPad 12W adapter so I for one am not triggered about the lack of charging brick from the packaging this round, especially since Apple offset the removal of those without substantially increasing the prices of the phones even with 5G.

At first (during the launch), I wondering what and how is Dolby Atmos...
Searched few clips on the net, this will be good if capturing videos, during live event, (Disneyland)parade, rides etc.
This will add more fun and spark during video editing.

So, compare to IP11 stereo sound recording, 12Prod should be a GO for me

Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision is different thing.. Dolby Atmos is audio and Dolby Vision is video.

iPhone XS/XR/11/12 Series is able to take in Dolby Atmos audio format and playback using Dolby Digital Plus format, sos: Link

New thing to iPhone 12 Series is being able to record HDR videos in Dolby Vision (aka proprietary HDR format by Dolby), up to 4K 30fps for 12 and Mini, 4K 60fps for 12 Pro and Pro Max. Just hope the correct information is out there.

EDIT: the link I posted above is for playback, not recording(eg. all iPhone model since iPhone X is able to playback Dolby Vision HDR format).

This post has been edited by louis198920: Oct 17 2020, 11:39 AM

Not Dolby Atmos but Dolby Vision. More towards the video quality and not much audio.

Dolby Atmos on a phone is a joke and a stupid marketing gimmick. There is no way in hell you can get Atmos effect from a bloody phone speaker.

Dolby Vision is more plausible, though I'd be hard press to find anyone noticing the difference on a small screen.
Video recording DV however is anther story. Might make a bit of difference during playback on a DV enabled TV, but again recording done on a small sensor camera phone, don't expect a big difference either...

rm800 for the extra ram of 6GB maybe a consideration for some to go for pro instead.

but personally i will go with 12 pro max which it will totally worth it than 12 pro given the price difference is not significant.

yeah apple is sneaky, trying to bump up the average revenue per iphone in sales. 12 pro max has sensor stabilization, 2.5x zoom telephoto and bigger display for rm400 difference...

yes, it is totally a marketing strategy.

the existence of iphone pro 12 is for majority to go with iphone 12 becos it will make the price attractive and make a easier choice for people to buy it. while for people who have the budget for iphone 12 pro will think that by spending a little bit they can get iphone 12 pro max at much more values.

those who really will go for iphone 12 pro are those without budget constraint but really want a best iphone at the size becos they find the pro max too big.

much like their pricing structure for ipad air 4 vs ipad pro now.

That is my main concern between iphone 12 and 12 pro, with 6gb i think the background can run much smoother.

My 7 plus with 3gb ram can feel the lagness when too much of background task running, 6gb ram i think can last u easily 3-4 years down the road.

yes, 6GB ram may allow more versions of iOS than 4GB ram device.