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 [2020]iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max Discussion Thread | V1, It’s a leap year.

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Carlo J
post Oct 31 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(blackmarket @ Oct 31 2020, 12:22 PM)
Since on 6nov we can start to pre order. Any  estimation on the shipping period ?  Would it be the same day where I can just walk into the store to buy on the spot ? Assuming the model that I want is still available
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According to the AAR/APR, their fulfilment date is 13 Nov.

So I doubt you'll get the phone before 13 Nov.

It's the same as SG, 1 week preorder.
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post Oct 31 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Oct 31 2020, 12:25 PM)
Yes, for the recent iPad Pro but as a spare charger in case I'm charging my iPhone.
Oh, damn.. This game is fine on my iPhone XS.

But then again, don't max the settings, it's a well optimized game.

Pretty sure, every other phone will overheat when you max the settings.
Technically, the additional 2GB RAM is for processing the RAW photos and LiDAR stuff.

The iPhone 12 works well with 4GB RAM.
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Compare to sd865 note 20 ultra... iPhone 12 series seem throttling too much to match iPhone 11 series battery life
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post Oct 31 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(shah_allstyle @ Oct 31 2020, 11:25 AM)
But 6gb of ram maybe worth for long term.. Now i cannot decide either regular or pro.. If 12 can put 12 mini into consideration because I regularly bring along power bank plus i got small hand.. 🤦‍♂️
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I'm not sure how well iOS memory management is to say that the extra 2GB of RAM is beneficial for long term. Yeah the 12 Mini seems great too. After using large phones for ages now I kinda miss compact phones.
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post Oct 31 2020, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Oct 31 2020, 11:36 AM)
im need explanation about Digi PhoneFreedom 365. as i know this package give u free phone upgrade. currently im using iphone 11 contract and want to upgrade to iphone 12. im eligible to upgrade for free or digi have hidden term about that.
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Only on 18th month you can exchange provided your current phone is in good condition.


Just wanna know if 6GB RAM will be suffice? laugh.gif I'm now using a 12GB RAM phone. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 31 2020, 12:55 PM)
Only on 18th month you can exchange provided your current phone is in good condition.
Just wanna know if 6GB RAM will be suffice? laugh.gif I'm now using a 12GB RAM phone. laugh.gif
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For iPhone, 6GB is the highest RAM ever, and for iOS it is enough.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 31 2020, 12:55 PM)
Only on 18th month you can exchange provided your current phone is in good condition.
Just wanna know if 6GB RAM will be suffice? laugh.gif I'm now using a 12GB RAM phone. laugh.gif
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Well iOS optimization for Apps is great. Seen reviews where iPhone with 3GB RAM can beat Androids with higher RAM. So i guess should be no issue tongue.gif

*Just my opinion based on Youtube reviews*
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post Oct 31 2020, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(choosingname3 @ Oct 31 2020, 12:41 PM)

Compare to sd865 note 20 ultra... iPhone 12 series seem throttling too much to match iPhone 11 series battery life
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this genshin impact seems becoming a benchmark for all the flagship phones now laugh.gif
i played in my 11pro, i just set most settings to low, and is eating my batt ~15% within an hour... set to max can feel the warm... guess not good to play such power demanding game in mobile for open world RPG like this, but luckily genshin impact support cross play, can play in PC and play in mobile once a while which is good biggrin.gif

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post Oct 31 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Area51SE @ Oct 31 2020, 12:57 PM)
Well iOS optimization for Apps is great. Seen reviews where iPhone with 3GB RAM can beat Androids with higher RAM. So i guess should be no issue  tongue.gif

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Comparing iPad pro 2020 which has 6gb to 11 Pro Max has 4gb, can see the hesitation occasionally of 11 pro max compare to iPad pro. More ram is useless is no proper OS management. Windows and OSX is another good example similar iOS VS Android.

Thus am looking forward for additional 2gb ram next 2 weeks as well.
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QUOTE(choosingname3 @ Oct 31 2020, 12:41 PM)

Compare to sd865 note 20 ultra... iPhone 12 series seem throttling too much to match iPhone 11 series battery life
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True, despite iOS was built for gaming, they lose out on this.

Anyway, I also play it on PC so I don't fret much.

QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 31 2020, 12:55 PM)
Only on 18th month you can exchange provided your current phone is in good condition.
Just wanna know if 6GB RAM will be suffice? laugh.gif I'm now using a 12GB RAM phone. laugh.gif
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For Celcom, it's month 19 onwards..

12GB RAM, are you using Note 20 Ultra?

QUOTE(vez @ Oct 31 2020, 01:02 PM)
this genshin impact seems becoming a benchmark for all the flagship phones now laugh.gif
i played in my 11pro, i just set most settings to low, and is eating my batt ~15% within an hour... set to max can feel the warm... guess not good to play such power demanding game in mobile for open world RPG like this, but luckily genshin impact support cross play, can play in PC and play in mobile once a while which is good biggrin.gif
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Yeah, a lot of players experience 'phone burn' because they're using low-mid range phones.

It drains battery really fast, that's something they need to look into their 1.1 update next month. I play equally on both mobile and PC so not complaining much.
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(shah_allstyle @ Oct 31 2020, 11:25 AM)
But 6gb of ram maybe worth for long term.. Now i cannot decide either regular or pro.. If 12 can put 12 mini into consideration because I regularly bring along power bank plus i got small hand.. 🤦‍♂️
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I foresee they will come up with battery cases for the 12 and 12 Mini laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 31 2020, 09:10 AM)
No, but usually it starts with minimum MOP 128.
I agree with most reviewers that the 12 Pro isn't worth the extra RM800 from the 12 and the 12 Pro Max would be better. I think the upgrades for the Pro Max you listed is worth the additional RM400 over the Pro. If the 12 Pro was just RM400 more than the 12, then maybe it's worth considering.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 31 2020, 10:08 AM)

go BIG or go SMALL or GO HOMEtongue.gif

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QUOTE(foxtrotmike @ Oct 31 2020, 10:49 AM)
Agreed, the 12 Pro is just too similar of a phone to the regular 12 and I don't think the telephoto lens is worth the extra RM800. Either get the 12 Pro Max or regular 12.
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Oct 31 2020, 11:28 AM)
as many people said... buy which ever model that is within own budget...  icon_rolleyes.gif
drawback or not... think of own necessity and wallet  cool2.gif

i'm already consider to get the pro max since it's big  whistling.gif  and best camera upgrade  icon_idea.gif
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I was considering Iphone 12 pro 256GB but now in dilemma to change to Iphone 12 pro max 128gb. I prefer smaller phone but like many has said, pro max is a better buy.

I hope the pro max camera with larger aperture and sensor size will be a lot better than pro.
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QUOTE(matsheikh @ Oct 31 2020, 02:16 PM)
I was considering Iphone 12 pro 256GB but now in dilemma to change to Iphone 12 pro max 128gb. I prefer smaller phone but like many has said, pro max is a better buy.

I hope the pro max camera with larger aperture and sensor size will be a lot better than pro.
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i'm using iphone X now. i think i will be happy to switch to iphone 12 pro max. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Oct 31 2020, 11:36 AM)
im need explanation about Digi PhoneFreedom 365. as i know this package give u free phone upgrade. currently im using iphone 11 contract and want to upgrade to iphone 12. im eligible to upgrade for free or digi have hidden term about that.
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I think minimum upgrade eligibility is 24 months, else there’s a penalty fee for the phone. You may check their T&C at the website.
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(blackmarket @ Oct 31 2020, 12:22 PM)
Since on 6nov we can start to pre order. Any  estimation on the shipping period ?  Would it be the same day where I can just walk into the store to buy on the spot ? Assuming the model that I want is still available
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Earliest delivery period would be 13 Nov.
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 31 2020, 12:55 PM)
Only on 18th month you can exchange provided your current phone is in good condition.
Just wanna know if 6GB RAM will be suffice? laugh.gif I'm now using a 12GB RAM phone. laugh.gif
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iPhone even with 4GB RAM is good enough. With 6 GB almost all apps remain open in the background, no need to reload. Tech YouTubers have tested this.
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(sramesh @ Oct 31 2020, 02:35 PM)
iPhone even with 4GB RAM is good enough. With 6 GB almost all apps remain open in the background, no need to reload. Tech YouTubers have tested this.
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it does make a difference for the extra 2GB RAM. this is why real-time Dolby Vision video recording — up to 4K at 30 FPS on iPhone 12 models and up to 4K at 60 FPS on Pro models.

over the years, the benefit of the 2GB RAM will become more obvious too when iOS is getting more and more intense of the upgrade yearly.
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IPhone 12 scalpers feeling the heat already because of Malaysia launch soon.....

attw laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif





https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5050427

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 31 2020, 02:38 PM)
IPhone 12 scalpers feeling the heat already because of Malaysia launch soon.....

attw  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5050427
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I wonder what do they earn? The stocks are most probably from SG.

Malaysia already has the one of the lowest RRP among all countries, and yet they are selling below Malaysia RRP blink.gif
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No worries guys, plenty of stocks of the IPhone 12 since the Chinese mainlanders are not buying.


"Apple Inc. shares fell as much as 5.6% Friday after the company reported iPhone sales that missed Wall Street estimates and said revenue in China slumped.

The company gave no forecast for the key holiday quarter, disappointing some analysts who were hoping for guidance. However, Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said the new iPhone 12 line has been well received. Sales of Macs and Services also reached all-time highs in the fiscal fourth quarter.

The Cupertino, California-based technology giant on Thursday said sales in the three months ending Sept. 26 came in at $64.7 billion. That beat analysts’ estimates of $63.5 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Earnings were 73 cents a share, also topping Wall Street expectations.


Sales of the iPhone fell 21% on anticipation of the new models, which arrived later than usual this year. Cook said the response to the 5G iPhone lineup and other new devices has been “tremendously positive.”


Read more: Apple IPhone 12 5G Line Wins Praise for Lower Prices, New Sizes


In Greater China, one of the company’s most important regions, revenue fell 29% to $7.9 billion, the lowest since 2014. Products beyond the iPhone grew double digits in China, Luca Maestri, Apple’s chief financial officer, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. He expects the iPhone 12 Pro Max with its larger screen to do “incredibly well” in the region and that the company is confident about growing there in the December quarter.

CHINA-US-IT-APPLE
People try out the new iPhone 12 at an Apple store in Shanghai on Oct. 23.Source: AFP via Getty Images
The stock, which had gained 57% this year before earnings were released late Thursday, tumbled to a low of $108.85. The company is valued at $1.8 trillion.

China Drop
Apple's quarterly revenue in Greater China comes in at multiyear low


Source: Apple financial statements

“Apple capped off a fiscal year defined by innovation in the face of adversity with a September quarter record, led by all-time records for Mac and Services,” Cook said."




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...a-sales-drop-29
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Oct 31 2020, 12:49 AM)
Those who are asking for alternative 18W USB-C with PD chargers can take a look at the Ugreen brand. I have been using it for the past year for my iphone X, and it works well.

https://shopee.com.my/UGREEN-Power-Delivery...3440.2682455660
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This one works for Iphone 12 too? Sorry if this questions repeat.

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