and i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount?
How to settle non-compoundable saman by PDRM
How to settle non-compoundable saman by PDRM
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Sep 29 2020, 07:26 PM, updated 5y ago
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last weekend i just got a saman at police roadblock because i was looking at my phone while driving, so the police issued me a saman, but it doens't state the amount, then at the bottom there is a remark, 'Kesalahan ini
and i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount? |
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Sep 29 2020, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Sep 29 2020, 07:26 PM) last weekend i just got a saman at police roadblock because i was looking at my phone while driving, so the police issued me a saman, but it doens't state the amount, then at the bottom there is a remark, 'Kesalahan ini cannot settle. you have to attend court.and i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount? Judge will decide how much is the fine. homicidal85, Nihonmaru, and 4 others liked this post
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Sep 29 2020, 07:42 PM
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dress down stay humble and plead for leniency infront of judge charge you under what section? LA757 liked this post
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Sep 29 2020, 07:46 PM
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I heard if cannot compound means go court rd. If they say you must go, then you must go
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Sep 29 2020, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Edlimst @ Sep 29 2020, 07:30 PM) usually how much is the fine? if court is minimum 1k? QUOTE(loui @ Sep 29 2020, 07:42 PM) subsection 53(1) rules 2003QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 29 2020, 07:46 PM) what's the process for that? and how much for the fine? when i ask the police that give me saman whether this saman can be pay or not he say can, then when i get the saman the paper there write non-compoundable :x This post has been edited by amduser: Sep 29 2020, 08:04 PM |
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Sep 29 2020, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Sep 29 2020, 07:26 PM) last weekend i just got a saman at police roadblock because i was looking at my phone while driving, so the police issued me a saman, but it doens't state the amount, then at the bottom there is a remark, 'Kesalahan ini Just go court or send rep, tell themand i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount? u wrong and ready to pay fine. Lawyer not necessary. |
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Sep 29 2020, 08:22 PM
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Sep 29 2020, 09:29 PM
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read here, thread ke berapa dah
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5028120&hl= and mine https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5003940&hl= |
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Sep 29 2020, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Sep 29 2020, 07:26 PM) last weekend i just got a saman at police roadblock because i was looking at my phone while driving, so the police issued me a saman, but it doens't state the amount, then at the bottom there is a remark, 'Kesalahan ini I dont think they will issue a summon if you were looking at the phone. Unless while driving you are holding the phone or texting.and i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount? |
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Sep 29 2020, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(PJng @ Sep 29 2020, 09:29 PM) read here, thread ke berapa dah Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/?https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5028120&hl= and mine https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5003940&hl= |
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Sep 29 2020, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 29 2020, 10:47 PM) Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/? I not sure, since i really talking phone. Maybe attn another court? |
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Sep 29 2020, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 29 2020, 10:47 PM) Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/? If tak mengaku why accept the saman?Anyway usually police will not do that because its just wasting time they rather find guilty ppl atleast some willing to give them kopi. And if u go court u dare to lie? Even if u dare im sure judge will believe police word than yours. |
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Sep 29 2020, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 29 2020, 11:28 PM) If tak mengaku why accept the saman? Im not referring to any lie, not sure why are you implying that.Anyway usually police will not do that because its just wasting time they rather find guilty ppl atleast some willing to give them kopi. And if u go court u dare to lie? Even if u dare im sure judge will believe police word than yours. All Im saying the police might have misinterpreted that you are using the phone, using TS example where he said he was just looking at the phone and a summon had been issued. So what happens then? This post has been edited by VeeJay: Sep 29 2020, 11:54 PM |
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Sep 30 2020, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 29 2020, 11:54 PM) Im not referring to any lie, not sure why are you implying that. Well how do u look at phone when u are driving?All Im saying the police might have misinterpreted that you are using the phone, using TS example where he said he was just looking at the phone and a summon had been issued. So what happens then? The term "using phone" is a loose term to describe holding phone regard less whether u are making calls, sms, FBing or whatever. As long as phone in hand is wrong. If u say use Waze then should use holder and not holding phone. |
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Sep 30 2020, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 30 2020, 12:00 AM) Well how do u look at phone when u are driving? Maybe I was not clear, when i mentioned look, meaning the phone was in the holder and you were looking at it; not holding on the hand. Definately holding on hand is no-no, anyone doesnt know that, better gantung lesen...hahahaThe term "using phone" is a loose term to describe holding phone regard less whether u are making calls, sms, FBing or whatever. As long as phone in hand is wrong. If u say use Waze then should use holder and not holding phone. |
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Sep 30 2020, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 29 2020, 10:47 PM) Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/? Want to challenge? Hire a lawyer la. |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 29 2020, 11:28 PM) If tak mengaku why accept the saman? Anyway usually police will not do that because its just wasting time they rather find guilty ppl atleast some willing to give them kopi. And if u go court u dare to lie? Even if u dare im sure judge will believe police word than yours. QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 30 2020, 12:00 AM) Well how do u look at phone when u are driving? The term "using phone" is a loose term to describe holding phone regard less whether u are making calls, sms, FBing or whatever. As long as phone in hand is wrong. If u say use Waze then should use holder and not holding phone. QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 30 2020, 12:04 AM) Maybe I was not clear, when i mentioned look, meaning the phone was in the holder and you were looking at it; not holding on the hand. Definately holding on hand is no-no, anyone doesnt know that, better gantung lesen...hahaha I was quite clear about what i said.read again. its very obvious difference looking at phone on the holder vs holding phone or talking on phone. |
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Sep 30 2020, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Sep 29 2020, 10:47 PM) Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/? If you have a passenger to support your not guilty plea, then fight till the end and provided your passenger is willing to go with you to court everytime. Otherwise, the benefit of doubt is given to the enforcer.In any court cases, witness or evidence is paramount. |
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Sep 30 2020, 11:10 AM
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Using phone while driving is usually a compoundable offense. Why not go to the traffic police station and enquire?
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Sep 30 2020, 11:41 AM
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