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post Oct 19 2020, 04:14 PM

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THE PLAYBOOK (NETFLIX) EP03 - JOSE MOURINHO

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just sharing.

QUOTE(syazwan @ Oct 19 2020, 01:12 PM)
U seriously have a comprehension problem

I stated clearly PEJAM MATA = IM OK WITH LAMPARD FIRST SEASON ALTHO WITHOUT A CUP AND TOP 4 WITH NO Hazard

In which = good job lampard for achieving the minimal.

My engrish might not be oxford level..but i cant help if u cant understand a simple and straight forward lines.

lol what a joke!

By the way..admitting new coach like lampard. Hhahaha.
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Guess your expectation of LAMPARD is very high compare to mine. Not everyone is a PEP that did a BARCELONA.

Sorry but to say, I am not expecting him to win the big cup this season even with 200m spent. I am more the realistic type. If he keep the top4 and get any cup then i pretty satisfied. What i am looking for is continue improvement. Yes LAMPARD is a new/young coach, he still way a lot to learn.

I am in no way defending the team defensive woe since inherent from his DERBY days. Part of the fault also is that he still unable to find his starting eleven. Do not expect a team can work like a well oil machine if part keep changing every matches.

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post Oct 19 2020, 05:57 PM

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This was posted more than a year ago when Lampard practically havent start to train the team

QUOTE(syazwan @ Jun 6 2019, 09:32 AM)
Dont blame the board alone.

Fans are responsible as well. Sure sometimes we cant fanthom the manager's decision but his job is on the line every single day. Which is why he will be held to responsible on every single day. We dont respect the process. Quick fix solution happy one season than sack another which costs us 93mils just for sacking people!! Stupid!!

The most retarded thing that i read was about the hoohaaa abt sarri meltdown last week and people straight away shoot him he is lowclass and so on.

Joke!

Grewing up watching local football more than the other teaches me two things: passion and patience.
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jul 3 2019, 11:12 AM)
agreed.
ive always put low expectations to the team (which is why u rarely see me meltdown during sarri stint biggrin.gif )

but anything below than european place is bit low (top 4 or top6).
we blasted sarriball yada yada yada..and give excuses to lampard? lol that should not be the way cool2.gif

sarri die die work hard get into 3rd place, won europa...kena fkkk kaw kaw suddenly tak apa..bersyukurlah  icon_question.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's ok. U just cant comprehend my bad english. And i'm sorry if my english made u confused? Lol.

No need to turn corners and spin my words. There are atleast 2-3 forumers here can understand my context of pejam mata.

And since when I said i expect lampard to win cup? IN FACT i believe most of us believe this is an important season of closing the gap between top 2.

By the way...The last person u want to argue about patience and realistic are Malaysian Local football fans..(im more active in Malaysia thread by the way)
If u feel realistic/ patience enough..go and support some local football team in M league.
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 19 2020, 04:14 PM)
THE PLAYBOOK (NETFLIX) EP03 - JOSE MOURINHO

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just sharing.
Guess your expectation of LAMPARD is very high compare to mine. Not everyone is a PEP that did a BARCELONA.

Sorry but to say, I am not expecting him to win the big cup this season even with 200m spent. I am more the realistic type. If he keep the top4 and get any cup then i pretty satisfied. What i am looking for is continue improvement. Yes LAMPARD is a new/young coach, he still way a lot to learn.

I am in no way defending the team defensive woe since inherent from his DERBY days. Part of the fault also is that he still unable to find his starting eleven. Do not expect a team can work like a well oil machine if part keep changing every matches.
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post Oct 19 2020, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Oct 18 2020, 07:32 PM)
Also to add, conte came in and created the most balanced team in one season without new signings, and half of those players are still with us.

Sarri came in and although we were poor in offense,we were one of the strongest defensively, with kepa in goal

Kante was our best player for few seasons suddenly looked like a shadow of his former self under lampard lol

Cant just always blame it on individual errors when your tactics are not watertight. Players can't consistently produce masterclass performances week in and out and we should always expect this
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post Oct 19 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Oct 19 2020, 06:05 PM)
If i speak, im in trouble

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No harm..

If we're winning all the time, won't be having this discussion haha
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post Oct 19 2020, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Oct 19 2020, 09:31 AM)
Ive repeatedly said the same thing.
Lampard CANT do anything below than Sarri.

Other than that , its unacceptable.

He achieved top 4 (without hazard ok la i pejam sebelah mata) but this season there is no googoo gaagaa about this thing anymore.

He needs to deliver.
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Oct 19 2020, 05:57 PM)
This was posted more than a year ago when Lampard practically havent start to train the team
It's ok. U just cant comprehend my bad english. And i'm sorry if my english made u confused? Lol.

No need to turn corners and spin my words. There are atleast 2-3 forumers here can understand my context of pejam mata.

And since when I said i expect lampard to win cup? IN FACT i believe most of us believe this is an important season of closing the gap between top 2.

By the way...The last person u want to argue about patience and realistic are Malaysian Local football fans..(im more active in Malaysia thread by the way)
If u feel realistic/ patience enough..go and support some local football team in M league.
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Bro is ok no need to dig out the old post. Just help me understand ur recent statement above. Maybe my english really no good.

"Lampard CANT do anything below than Sarri. Other than that , its unacceptable."

If i am not wrong under SARRI we finish 3rd in league, we definitely win the europa league. So LAMPARD is unacceptable or not ? Do u expect LAMPARD last season to do better than/same SARRI ? Sorry my english is poor.

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 19 2020, 06:40 PM)
Bro is ok no need to dig out the old post. Just help me understand ur recent statement above. Maybe my english really no good.

"Lampard CANT do anything below than Sarri. Other than that , its unacceptable."

If i am not wrong under SARRI we finish 3rd in league, we definitely win the europa league. So LAMPARD is unacceptable or not ? Do u expect LAMPARD last season to do better than SARRI ? Sorry my english is poor.
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Which is followed by the "pejam mata" statement which means i let my threshold lower as understandable he got no signings and key player leaving.. (Sarri 3rd 1 europa, lampard 4th no cup).
*heck i even rephrase and explain this in another reply duh...

If lampard finish 8th or 10th and "its ok he is still learning, new manager" yadda yadda...no that wont be fine.

It is THAT EASY to differentiate.

Hence i wont elaborate anymore. Thanks
Im not sure why there is a need to drag this for so long tho.
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post Oct 19 2020, 07:10 PM

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Guys.. we are blues fan, no need to be divided. We’re all on the same side here smile.gif

I understand given, what is meant by @syazwan is that Sarri had put a benchmark for Lamps to reach. And even with that, he didn’t reach it last season. Correct me if i’m wrong smile.gif

Sarri - 3rd place, Europa cup
Lamps - 4th place, no cup

It’s the truth, and it hurts for us fans. But to put into context again, yes Lamps is different than other coaches we had before this (except Di Matteo maybe, he’s a club legend too). In Lamps situation is a bit more difficult with hazard’s departure and transfer ban, but that would not be an excuse now, would it..?

Now fans can be seen divided between #LampardOut and #BackLampard. You can clearly see that on twitter. And i understand the reasons for both

Imho, we won’t win any cup this season or the next either. Fixing defensive issues while changing your first XI is not going to help Lamps in his position. And for what it’s worth, he needs to realize this himself before bringing us down the table further

He needs to:

- find a fixed starting XI (most important)
- settle the defensive issue (either a pair of tomori/silva or zouma/silva)
- ask kante to sit the fuck back and not moving forward like he loves to
- send christensen/rudiger out. Them dudes are not gonna help, better let them play elsewhere
- fuck anak emas off. He’s the reason other players playing out of position. Need to get real, lamps
- play players in their best position
- find a permanent tactic (4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-3) i don’t care which, but from there then can only players gel themselves better

This is just my humble opinion as a blues fan, not finding any trouble in this forum ya sweat.gif it definitely could be wrong, but as other fans would, i would like to share my insight on this too. And personally for me, i’d definitely back lampard through and through. But like @syazwan said, the gaffer needs to deliver. He needs to be ruthless. Period

I love chelsea to the core. But in the same perspective, it hurts quite abit to see a club legend being a bit hard-headed in terms of how he decides the team will play

This is not the championship. It’s the premier league, and it’s very demanding for both players and coaches all around. Lamps need to adapt and he needs to do it quickly

I don’t want the relationship between him and roman, and most importantly the fans, to go haywire just because of this sad.gif

Peace!
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post Oct 19 2020, 07:11 PM

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Forgot to put some news for tomorrow’s match against Sevilla biggrin.gif



A blessing in disguise maybe..?
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post Oct 19 2020, 07:24 PM

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Thanks fzrnhkm for the sums up. Perfecto.


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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Oct 19 2020, 07:10 PM)
Guys.. we are blues fan, no need to be divided. We’re all on the same side here smile.gif

I understand given, what is meant by @syazwan is that Sarri had put a benchmark for Lamps to reach. And even with that, he didn’t reach it last season. Correct me if i’m wrong smile.gif

Sarri - 3rd place, Europa cup
Lamps - 4th place, no cup

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Guess everyone have different expectation on LAMPARD. To me he did the job last season but to others SARRI is the min benchmark. After the 200m spent expectation go up further i guess. I will just stay realistic and hope LAMPARD continue to improve the team and show of progress come season end.

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post Oct 20 2020, 12:29 AM

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Mendy is in contention for tomorrow’s match after turning up for training today biggrin.gif
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post Oct 20 2020, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Oct 19 2020, 07:10 PM)
Guys.. we are blues fan, no need to be divided. We’re all on the same side here smile.gif

I understand given, what is meant by @syazwan is that Sarri had put a benchmark for Lamps to reach. And even with that, he didn’t reach it last season. Correct me if i’m wrong smile.gif

Sarri - 3rd place, Europa cup
Lamps - 4th place, no cup

It’s the truth, and it hurts for us fans. But to put into context again, yes Lamps is different than other coaches we had before this (except Di Matteo maybe, he’s a club legend too). In Lamps situation is a bit more difficult with hazard’s departure and transfer ban, but that would not be an excuse now, would it..?

Now fans can be seen divided between #LampardOut and #BackLampard. You can clearly see that on twitter. And i understand the reasons for both

Imho, we won’t win any cup this season or the next either. Fixing defensive issues while changing your first XI is not going to help Lamps in his position. And for what it’s worth, he needs to realize this himself before bringing us down the table further

He needs to:

- find a fixed starting XI (most important)
- settle the defensive issue (either a pair of tomori/silva or zouma/silva)
- ask kante to sit the fuck back and not moving forward like he loves to
- send christensen/rudiger out. Them dudes are not gonna help, better let them play elsewhere
- fuck anak emas off. He’s the reason other players playing out of position. Need to get real, lamps
- play players in their best position
- find a permanent tactic (4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-3) i don’t care which, but from there then can only players gel themselves better

This is just my humble opinion as a blues fan, not finding any trouble in this forum ya sweat.gif it definitely could be wrong, but as other fans would, i would like to share my insight on this too. And personally for me, i’d definitely back lampard through and through. But like @syazwan said, the gaffer needs to deliver. He needs to be ruthless. Period

I love chelsea to the core. But in the same perspective, it hurts quite abit to see a club legend being a bit hard-headed in terms of how he decides the team will play

This is not the championship. It’s the premier league, and it’s very demanding for both players and coaches all around. Lamps need to adapt and he needs to do it quickly

I don’t want the relationship between him and roman, and most importantly the fans, to go haywire just because of this sad.gif

Peace!
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Nope, it's been happening many times already. Kante going forward is cos of gameplan more than player wanting to go upfront.

Lampard trying to play kante like a box to box mf but clearly thats not his best role. Shud stick to dm and sit deep, wer he really shines

Now, mount may work as a box to box mf, but clearly lamps refuse to play him there
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Oct 20 2020, 01:26 AM)
Nope, it's been happening many times already. Kante going forward is cos of gameplan more than player wanting to go upfront.

Lampard trying to play kante like a box to box mf but clearly thats not his best role. Shud stick to dm and sit deep, wer he really shines

Now, mount may work as a box to box mf, but clearly lamps refuse to play him there
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That’s true, kante is at his best when he sits back but when he moves forward, defense GG. And it’s becoming abit frequent lately that, whenever he intercepts he tend to give it away liao sweat.gif

The issue with mount is when he plays in other player’s original position, then can see chemistry lari already. It’s either mount plays or havertz plays. If both play then either one would underperform imo

Let’s see how we do in sevilla’s match later cheers.gif
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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Oct 20 2020, 12:35 PM)
That’s true, kante is at his best when he sits back but when he moves forward, defense GG. And it’s becoming abit frequent lately that, whenever he intercepts he tend to give it away liao sweat.gif

The issue with mount is when he plays in other player’s original position, then can see chemistry lari already. It’s either mount plays or havertz plays. If both play then either one would underperform imo

Let’s see how we do in sevilla’s match later cheers.gif
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this i agree
coz both of them are natural AM. it's hard for 2 playmakers to play in the same game. it tend to cause a chaos in midfield

i would play havertz on the match that we need to unlock the defense, while mount where we need to counter attack most of the time.

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Of course anak emas will play..

Btw in premier league news, Petr Cech is listed among the 25 chelsea players blink.gif



Kepa must have caused such trouble for that to happen doh.gif but it’s more of a backup plan iinm

Edit: explanation by Matt Law for the inclusion of Petr Cech in the squad



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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Oct 21 2020, 02:05 AM)


Of course anak emas will play..

Btw in premier league news, Petr Cech is listed among the 25 chelsea players blink.gif



Kepa must have caused such trouble for that to happen doh.gif but it’s more of a backup plan iinm
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Think I'll just catch the highlights rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Oct 21 2020, 02:08 AM)
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Think I'll just catch the highlights  rolleyes.gif
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Hopefully the match will be a good one cheers.gif
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No Kepa in starting XI means not conceding 3 or more goals? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(RalphRatedR @ Oct 21 2020, 02:32 AM)
No Kepa in starting XI means not conceding 3 or more goals? tongue.gif
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Hopefully a clean sheet perhaps..? blush.gif

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