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syazwan
post Sep 22 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(gry @ Sep 22 2020, 09:02 PM)
Silva, chiwell IN squad for tomorrow. Mendy in contention. Ziyech Pulisic nearly fit. Tomorrow game probably for first team since we lack games and fitness match.

Against west brom maybe we can see new look squad. Hopefully.
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Need to use first team. We are seriously lacking pre season mode.


And pls ffs put kai belakang striker ...try la sekali pls..

Last vs poo i was ok fine he put kai as false 9 and werner on left ...which is not that bad (but this shud be done during pre season!!)

Ok la salahkan wuhan virus

Werner bukak akaun pls.
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post Sep 23 2020, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 23 2020, 02:36 AM)
There is nothing to talk about CHO consistency when he does not perform at all when call upon. How long has CHO with CHE already ? Of all his cameo appearance, i dont remember even once that he make an impression. His attitude in the pitch does not help either. He have to be loan out so he can play regularly.

I will field MOUNT any day over CHO, MOUNT have more to offer, more pressing and running. On the latest match CHO play, he cant even do a winger job properly, he dont make run on the channel to drag the fullback wide and creating space. All he do is just sit at RM position and when he receive the ball, he dont run at defender either, then he will make a square pass. When he dont get the ball, he whine too.
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Mason Mount vs Liverpool

90 minutes
-0 Goals
-0 assist
-0 shots on target
-0 key passes
-0 duels won
-1 shot off target
-2 dribbles completed

Also.the comparison for CHO over his latest match is bit off since he only play 10 mins and we had 2 goals lead.


I remember werner's run ..dribbling..movement more than mount on the flanks vs pool.
Just ridiculous. Starting Mount on the wing ahead of CHO because of workrate pressing and running instead of the actual contribution on the field.
This is similar to Jose starting Oscar, Willian ahead of KDB, Salah.

Fans are not happy when kante is playing attacking instead of dm..but its ok for mount due to his workrate?
Kai on the wing oso orang marah padahal member tak main full 90 lagi. Glaring.
I have no agenda against Mount. He was poor as well. Simple

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post Sep 23 2020, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 23 2020, 10:40 AM)
The game i mention is the BRIGHTON frenly where CHO play for 70+ minute. To be fair MOUNT and CHO operate differently, this could be LAMP tactic/formation. MOUNT/TIMO will cut into middle even on paper they start as winger which that could be also because their nature instinct as AM and CF. While CHO like to stay wide as true winger. If is not tactically then that will really looks bad on CHO where an AM get ahead on your winger spot. As a bench player, u have to impress when are giving the chance, but so far to me CHO didnt, and REECE did and that why he is on the way to be our starting RB.

I will not say KDB/SALAH are better than OSCAR/WILLIAM at that moment, but i think KDB was comparable to OSCAR but definitely SALAH are behind WILLIAM.

On LIV game where we got outplay badly obviously the stats does not looks good. Only TIMO has a good game, while KAI and MOUNT was poor. In midfield we have KANTE which i think did a good job on winning the ball and together with KOVA, both of them are comfortable to dribbling the ball forward if space permit. JORG suppose to be the pass master behind like FAB/PIRLO but he never did the forward pass enuff. With the overload middle employ by LIV there is no space for KANTE/KOVA to drive the ball forward and with JORG they are press badly. That why i think playing GIROUD will be better at LIV game, at least CB can do a long ball instead of recycling pass with KEPA.
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Err u were saying " latest match for CHO" so its 10min appearance.
I dont get the comparison for preseason so i wont discuss further as it is entirely for different purposes and thanks to covid..we had a teribble preparation.

Fact is we were POOR on both games. Barkley was like clone of zidane in last year preseason by the way laugh.gif

And for me i have no complaint on 1st game since we do not have proper preseason. Understandable. Rusty. Lack of fitness etc. Which is also why Lampard already confirmed that today's match is for first team as well.

again, nothing against Mount. Just that the selection to put Mount because "he can press" and so on must stop. He MUST BE involve in the game too. Assist..key passes..crosses..defending..and everything must be on par. Same must go to CHO as well. If 10mins of competitive and lack of preseason game is the reason to justify "Mount is better than CHO at the flank"....i need to drop this argument altogether.
Which is why i bring up KDB salah cases (who only play 3 PL games as per Wiki with chelsea)

The entire liverpool team is good not just because gegenpressing and everyone press alone. They collectively put up a good show in each of their departments. It is simple as that. Their keeper not kelong. Solid defensive..salah and mane not just good because they just press.
They contributed in their respective roles.

For Mount..if u are being deployed as a winger..i dont care u are being force or what u need to put a good shift as proper winger. Thats it. Not because "he can press"
U nak inside forward ke..inverted wingers ke..must contribute lorh.

Also..pretty sure Lamptey was performing like Cafu last week. Guess who on the left side?




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post Sep 23 2020, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Sep 23 2020, 06:46 PM)
No live on astro right sad.gif
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Will it be shown live or no telecast at all in this game?
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post Sep 26 2020, 11:36 PM

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Anak emas winning goal tonite or motm.

Come on
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post Sep 27 2020, 12:59 AM

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Salahan jorgi
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post Sep 27 2020, 01:20 AM

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No natural winger but isokey we can have mid who can run and press...


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post Sep 27 2020, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(gry @ Sep 27 2020, 02:29 AM)
One major issue that I think with our team is the lack of their playing identity. There's no fixed style & every player just seems to do whatever he wants to do & one of the reasons for that is our unstable starting XI.

Since the start of last season to this day, we don't know how our starting XI is gonna look like. Every game, it's a new CB pairing and same goes for the midfield and attack as well. Midfielders are playing at wing. You can only build team chemistry with a stable starting XI.
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Hahaha ya we always struggling to put our first xi as a fan
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post Sep 27 2020, 10:49 AM

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100% agrees with point no.1 this is not a fking preseason anymore where u wan to try out the positions. Also its not like we are desperate with injury crisis.
Itu lain cerita la kalau dah takde winger sangat.

When i speak abt CHO vs Mount as a winger last week, i'm in trouble. laugh.gif

Its very glaring how bad not just defending but attacking as well when we were 3-0 down. James was forced to throw some of the worst crosses from his record last night because practically he needs to deliver very very unnecessary early crosses. Why this happens? It doesnt takes a tactical genious to figure it out.

When the right flank wasnt a natural winger...there was no body to drag the opponent defensive shape to stay wide or to drop further behind near the touchline. This limits james spaces to deliver good crosses. Either u force early crosses..or u play it back to the middle as there is no winger waiting out wide..

But its okey since the workrate running chasing yada yadaa so CHO must be bench lorh.

Mount looks clearly much much better 2nd half when he plays in his original position. And im sorry that was his only best play so far this season (he play all 90mins in all games so far?). Again, Im not being critical or agenda towards Mount...but fairplay to Mount, manager kena jaga anak emas and kena named him in first 11 lorh.


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post Sep 28 2020, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 27 2020, 01:24 PM)
If REECE drag a fullback to mark him that is a correct play already, that leave space for wide forward to go into the box and get the attention of opponent CB to free up the striker. If u see all REECE crosses, he does not like run to byline and cross, his good cross are mostly early cross with power and slight curve. Just like LIV and MANC play, their winger does not stay wide at opponent box. Else it will back to same old 1 CF in the box vs all the defender.


It not just because of MOUNT workrate that CHO is bench, u did see him start the game before yesterday right ?. How does CHO perform ? another fans here give him a review of 4/10 in a game we dominated and trash our opponent. TAMMY started on the same game and i believe his performance earn him yesterday start. Yes CHO performance was good yesterday, he should get the chance to start next one. Whoever that is perform should start, else is just wasting space.

Yes, agree MOUNT play better at AM, more space for him to roam. About the anak emas, to be fair to LAMPARD, like for like for MOUNT replacement i can only see BARKLEY, not KOVA not RLC, they both does not play as aggressive. LAMPARD even played RLC at winger in the pre-season instead of CHO.
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This is a good discussion / exchanges by the way.
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It wasnt fullback who mark recce to begin with. It was their flanker. Which is why recce has to play it early cross or play it again on the middle.
Otherwise he needs to try past 2 WBA players (flanker and fullback) to put in a decent crosses.
This is a stat from squawka football:
Crosses attempted in the first half of West Brom vs Chelsea:

◉ Reece James (12)
◎ Every other player on the pitch combined (5)

He created more chances (4) than any other player on the pitch.

This is not a coincidence isnt it? But how many crosses from him was good. We are talking abt someone who has the brightest attribute of crossing in the team by the way.


2. If CHO was bad in previous games then im not sure how u rate mount performance in all 90 mins(iinm?) of 4 game he played so far. Even in this thread ppl are being critical abt him bro. Not me..on twitter..forums etc. Everywhere.
Fact is CHO play only 10 vs Brighton in PL and 1 full game vs barnsleh.
Since u bring this argument in..im not sure how lampard fact check his analysis of using RLC too on 1st eleven. Which analysis that he refers to? To even force Mount and Kai on the flank (vs Brighton of 1st match. )
His analysis of RLC playing winger during pre seasonn then play him in the middle on 1st game. Not sure what logic is this?

P/s our pre season is horrible with only 1 game. Manager only has that 1 game to test fitness..formation etc. Not lamps fault on this. I believe liverpool manage to play atleast 3 preseason game. (+1 CS) which is why i never bring argument abt preseason. Its entirely for different purpose and with only 1 match of preparation




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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 29 2020, 07:11 PM)
Spurs without Son
While we need to play Mendy and Chilwell
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Apa lama sgt ziyek dgn pulis ni.

We need to use our strongest team.
Maybe can give bakli 1 start tonite tho.
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post Sep 30 2020, 04:38 AM

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Seriously why the fak Mount play 90mins again???
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post Sep 30 2020, 04:48 AM

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Anak emas MOTM!!! HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAH
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post Sep 30 2020, 04:50 AM

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The stupid favouritism has got to stop now.

All the BS of mount pressing running...i will never get anyone who defends Mount performance tonight.

Play all 90mins in all 5 matches. Unbelieavable


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post Sep 30 2020, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 28 2020, 11:10 AM)
I rate MOUNT performance as average, but i would say again he bring energize and pressing to the team. In order for formation/tactic that play high on the pitch, pressing is very important. And to do pressing correctly u have to all player do it together, means if opponent have the ball, u have to have at least 3 ppl pressing it, 1 on the guys having the ball the other 2 press on potential receiver to cut out the pass. CHO was too lazy, if pressing was not done as a team, then is like one play monkey chasing the ball. I would even start RLC at winger if is not MOUNT, that is how bad i rate CHO.

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Need to fact check after tonight. Some revision needed.
U will be "surprise" to see how easily Mount is the worst player on the pitch ystday

For me..its not surprising as i have seen it coming. He looks jaded. 5 games off full 90s. Out of gas. It is like 11 vs 10
time and time again his average performance is being covered up by his so called pressing.

Not going to blame him but it is what it is...there are reasons why people tagged him as anak emas

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post Sep 30 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 30 2020, 06:33 PM)
Barkley motm for Barnsley game the other day, where our attack finally seemed convincing

Havertz still too new, mount useless...
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Bakli practically 'reorganize' our attacking vs brighton after sub w RLC.

I mean within minutes after he came in we can attack properly laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Sep 30 2020, 07:17 PM)
so mount getting no 8?
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Bro..
Stahppppp
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post Oct 3 2020, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Oct 3 2020, 06:40 AM)
Both werner and mount are terrible as wingers
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CHO was.... id say Ok lah in past his 2 cameos.

Vs WBA he was great to change the pace of the game

But still Mouny will play lah. Dont wory.

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Oct 3 2020, 08:43 PM)
This sakho previously play for mc?
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post Oct 3 2020, 10:01 PM

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Ok la anak emas dah rest.
Main pun tak semput pening kepala

11vs 11(not handicap 1 player auto start)

With proper GK & LB.

nampak tak bezanya

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