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post Dec 1 2021, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Nov 28 2021, 10:11 AM)
For LG CX or oled users, do you get intermittent screen blackout for 1-2 seconds during gaming with HDR logo pop up again at the top corner? This happen like every 2-3 hours of gaming. So far fifa is having this issue. I have yet to try other games.

I read up online it seems to be an issue where the the console is force outputting at RGB 12 bit. The freesync info box also showing 12 bit. Is there a workaround to get 4K 60hz RGB 4:4:4 10 bit HDR on the PS5? Because if I set the 4K transfer rate to -1, the signal drops to 4K 60 Hz 8 Bit HDR. I don't think this is acceptable.
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Never encounter any intermittent issues like yours buddy
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post Dec 1 2021, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 1 2021, 04:20 PM)
games on PS5 are mastered in 4:2:0.
Perhaps Sony saw no reason to give users to enable 4:4:4 anyway because it makes no difference at the end of the day.
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Yeah, I dropped it to -1 and run fifa at YUV 4:2:2 non RGB for 2-3 hours per day this past few days. No flickering issue or intermittent screen black out anymore.


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post Dec 4 2021, 10:39 AM

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So I was browsing for some cheap tv. I dont mind lack of HDMI 2.1 bcoz my eys are old man one so didn't matter if it was 120Hz all I see was same 60Hz. Is this good enough? Since it got Dolby Vision so its good for my Series X too I think hmm.gif
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post Dec 6 2021, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 4 2021, 10:39 AM)
So I was browsing for some cheap tv. I dont mind lack of HDMI 2.1 bcoz my eys are old man one so didn't matter if it was 120Hz all I see was same 60Hz. Is this good enough? Since it got Dolby Vision so its good for my Series X too I think hmm.gif
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"Good enough " is not the word I would use .

I did some comparison with Hisense top range U8G with a Samsung before , apparently they are quite a lackluster .
And that is an understatement per se .


Also screen with higher native refresh rate , generate less motion blurs than one that doesn't even if you are only playing 60hz content .
This apply to LCD as well , not just OLED .

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post Dec 9 2021, 04:13 PM

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Dont know why so obsess finding great branded 120fps tv bla bla bla,
Keep in mind that most ps5 game only support 60fps and some game also do not support hdr.... trust me ur wont use most of the advance feature of this so called great tv....
just go for cheap tv with hdr 4k 60fps, ur will be fine loo and the extra money can be use to purchase more ps5 game....

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post Dec 10 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Dec 9 2021, 04:13 PM)
Dont know why so obsess finding great branded 120fps tv bla bla bla,

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Why ?

Because higher end LCD has better control of backlight and thus , emit less blue light in the process ?

Because you care about watching and seeing what is displaying on your screen ?

Because you can afford to spend RM25000 on some random Louis Vuitton limited edition Flipping phone but hesitate to spend even 1/5 of that amount onto a much bigger screen ?


Now how about you save some of the blah for yourself ?
Your game is only as good looking as your screen . Perhaps you should keep that in mind as well.



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Keep in mind that most ps5 game only support 60fps and some game also do not support hdr.... trust me ur wont use most of the advance feature of this so called great tv....
Do you even understand what is HDR ? You don't need HDR in every game and every circumstance .
A more capable TV has already by nature , contributed to higher Dynamic Range by improving contrast ( hence Picture Quality ) even for Non-HDR content .


Looks like we got another winner here who bought some TV from the ABC and thinks he has seen it all . Ignorance has no bounds , I guess .



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just go for cheap tv with hdr 4k 60fps, ur will be fine loo and the extra money can be use to purchase more ps5 game....


Sounds like a cheapskate's sentiment to me .

Why do you even want to pair a PS5 with Cheap TV ? That's like buying RTX 3090 to play Hello Kitty Online .
You definitely don't get HDR from them , you also don't really get 4k from some of them since they are RGBW panels .

Therefore out of " 4k 60fps HDR " package , You may only end up getting 1/3 of the deal .
The 60hz refresh rate from LCD is only going to hinder your experience even further because any 24p cutscene is going to " hiccup " in your face .


You don't need to buy and own every PS5 game out there , only the one that you really wanted to play and you will end up getting a much more immersive experience .

This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 10 2021, 04:54 PM
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post Dec 11 2021, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 4 2021, 10:39 AM)
So I was browsing for some cheap tv. I dont mind lack of HDMI 2.1 bcoz my eys are old man one so didn't matter if it was 120Hz all I see was same 60Hz. Is this good enough? Since it got Dolby Vision so its good for my Series X too I think hmm.gif
Hisense 4K ULED Smart TV (55") 55U7G
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Bro, top up 1k max or so only and get this 55" X90J 12.12 from Desa Home.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/2021-new...6824PLVVrW&mp=1

If I am not wrong, I think this TV is just 8 bit + FRC. Color reproduction wise will never be on par with 10 bit native 1.07 billion colors like X90J.

Since you are about to get a new TV, getting a native 120hz TV will anytime be better than a 60hz tv not just for 120 fps gaming, for watching movies as well. You might want to do a bit of research on 24p 3:2 pulldown on a 60hz and 5:5 pulldown on 120hz.

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X90j selling 3999 in shopee now. 4199 from Sony ioi city mall roadshow
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post Dec 17 2021, 02:31 PM

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Got some QN90A 50" on offer in shopee, in case you prefer QLED over OLED. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2021, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 17 2021, 02:31 PM)
Got some QN90A 50" on offer in shopee, in case you prefer QLED over OLED. biggrin.gif
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IPS screen , sadly .
Samsung is really dropping the ball .



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post Dec 17 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 17 2021, 04:15 PM)
IPS screen , sadly .
Samsung is really dropping the ball .
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So Malaysian QN90A is unlike those VA in the US reviewed by rtings? The other day I was at SenQ to check it out cause I also not sure if its VA or IPS. I asked the sales person and he is also not quite sure but they came back to me and said VA. But nevertheless, I still think price is a bit on the high side for now.

I cant seem to find info for the malaysia side for this model.

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post Dec 17 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Dec 17 2021, 04:40 PM)
So Malaysian QN90A is unlike those VA in the US reviewed by rtings? The other day I was at SenQ to check it out cause I also not sure if its VA or IPS. I asked the sales person and he is also not quite sure but they came back to me and said VA. But nevertheless, I still think price is a bit on the high side for now.

I cant seem to find info for the malaysia side for this model.
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Unless it is the 85" , all of them are IPS .

It has been proven beyond a doubt , screen-scanned by me and by our fellow forum mates as well .

Your shop guy probably went online and checked from rtings , and saw the TV with the same models and thought they found the answer .

The QN90A of US is the same line up as QN95A in Uk / Europe , which is not available in Malaysia .

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post Dec 17 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 17 2021, 04:46 PM)
Unless it is the 85" , all of them are IPS .

It has been proven beyond a doubt , screen-scanned by me and by our fellow forum mates as well .

Your shop guy probably went online and checked from rtings , and saw the TV with the same models and thought they found the answer .

The QN90A of US is the same line up as QN95A in Uk / Europe , which is not available in Malaysia .
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I see. Thanks for your info. Samsung MY should really be more clear cut with this info made available if they want to push those mini-LED TVs at these kind of prices.
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post Dec 27 2021, 02:21 PM

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If you want a good (relatively) budget HDR TV for PS5, the Hisense U7G has good enough HDR performance and attractive price point

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7g

Note: cannot do 4K 120hz properly
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post Dec 31 2021, 04:17 PM

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Guys I'm looking for TV replacement for my Office/gaming desk
which can fit 43 inch MAX,
but nowadays Sony and Samsung line up are mostly 55inch and above due to 4K.
Any good recommendation for 43inch with HDR and 120Hz? 4K is optional because it does not make much difference for screen below 50 inch

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post Dec 31 2021, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Dec 31 2021, 04:17 PM)
Guys I'm looking for TV replacement for my Office/gaming desk
which can fit 43 inch MAX,
but nowadays Sony and Samsung line up are mostly 55inch and above due to 4K.
Any good recommendation for 43inch with HDR and 120Hz? 4K is optional because it does not make much difference for screen below 50 inch
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Wait for a bit. There could be a 42" OLED by LG next year.
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post Dec 31 2021, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 27 2021, 02:21 PM)
If you want a good (relatively) budget HDR TV for PS5, the Hisense U7G has good enough HDR performance and attractive price point

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7g


Note: cannot do 4K 120hz properly
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Hisense MY website lists the TV as 4K @ 60 Hz capable only. U7G

Also, this TV is only 8 bit (each pixel ranges from 0-255, or simply 2 to the power of 8 = 256 shades of each Red, Green, Blue totaled to 256x256x256 = 16.7 million colors) + FRC (Frame Rate Control). It is still not a true 10 bit panel which is 64 times of that amount totaled up to 1.07 billion colors. FRC is just using temporal dithering and flash colors twice to fool our eyes thinking we are seeing the intended 10 bit wider color info on a limited 8 bit color palette display.

HDR10 minimum requirement is actually 10 bit depth. So it's better to view HDR10 contents on a native 10 bit panel to enjoy the most accurate colors. HDR10

TLDR? Never mind, gaming using 8 bit + FRC display maybe cannot really see the differences. But why would I want to watch HDR10 contents on a 8 bit + FRC panel? tongue.gif

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post Jan 2 2022, 10:30 AM

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For such low 3k price, I think is very okay thumbsup.gif

For some people, 1k can be a lot

If want good, have to open wallet or wait for June 2022 old model throw price.

In Rtings real world test results, color gamut scores decently and actually meets or beats Samseng's far pricier QN85A.
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post Jan 2 2022, 03:29 PM

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You can definitely tell the difference in very specific scenes .
The problem gets worse when you consider that Hisense TV does not come with any smooth-gradation features .


This caused some movies filmed with grainy effects a lot " noisier " than usual due to the lack of " grades " to progress from one to another .



You can get a X90J 55 " for less than 4k during one of these xx / xx sales , saving 1000 going for U7G just to have sub-par picture quality and inferior FALD system sounds a little absurd to me .

Hisense has also fallen far behind other brands when it comes to picture processing and upscaling .



I hate to tell people they don't have much of a choice here but that is just the fact with the MY TV market .


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