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SSJBen
post Sep 19 2020, 09:50 PM

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Rather than just what TV to get, better put some money into your audio setup too.
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post Oct 2 2020, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Oct 1 2020, 09:28 PM)
A9G | MASTER Series | OLED | 4K Ultra HD | High Dynamic Range (HDR) | Smart TV (Android TV)

SONY console with SONY tv.  What a combo!
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Mediocre combo.

A9G has high input lag, aggressive ABL which is very irritating for games that has static HUDs (which majority does), so-so peak brightness and no VRR support.
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post Aug 9 2021, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 8 2021, 09:29 PM)
Hi guys, it seems that it is time for me to upgrade my TV for my PS5 gaming.

My previous set up was using the old Acer ET430K HDR 43" monitor back in 2017 and since it is already faulty I plan to get an upgrade and I was looking at the LG OLED TVs.

Based off of my findings, the latest LG OLED C1 looks amazing but price wise I found out that if I were to top up a few hundreds more I can get its predecessor the CX 55" at 5.9k range. C1 48" is already at 5199 range. Both of them are pretty much similar except for the C1 with better input lag due to its Game Optimizer mode with boost.

I was leaning more to the 55" LG CX. Please advise.
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The only thing the C1 does better is above black level in dark scenes and much better motion interpolation for 24p content (movies) with its new cinematic motion option.

Other than that, everything else between the C1 and CX are very similar almost till the point of you need to be anal to point out the minute differences. The lower input lag does not mean anything, because the CX already has a low enough input lag that anything else lower you won't be able to feel.

Save your money, get the CX.
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post Aug 17 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 15 2021, 08:47 PM)
Pulled the trigger on the LG CX 55 and damn, what an upgrade it was. Very satisfied with the purchase 😁
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Welcome to the OLED club.

Make sure to do some basic level calibration.
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post Aug 17 2021, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 17 2021, 03:46 PM)
Thanks man!!

Yeah, did some calibration here and there for my ps5 using HGiG (both SDR and HDR), 4k SDR and HDR videos and Dolby Vision IQ for YouTube and Netflix. Do you normally turn off the TruMotion feature for your videos?
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I always disable any motion interpolation on TVs. But you may try it out on the very lowest custom setting of deblur 0 and dejudder 1 on your CX as LG made some improvements with less artifacting over the C9.
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post Sep 15 2021, 05:03 PM

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OLED light 27 = 102 cd/m2 (nits) btw.

There are variances in panel, but the average I've gotten for about 20 models of C9 to CX is OLED light 27 is required to get to 100 nits for SDR. This is for use with a dark room only (preferably pitch black).

Typically the clients I've calibrated for usually have a pair or 2 of downlights (4000k, 10w) turned on when they game. So OLED light 27 is actually too dark for most games. Usually I set the OLED light to about 40-45 which pushes up the value to ~180-200 nits. Not accurate, but it's video games - so who cares.
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post Sep 19 2021, 03:14 PM

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Ideally 65" CX1 if you can stretch it.

X90j is not a bad TV per se though.
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post Sep 20 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Sep 19 2021, 10:57 PM)
Alright thanks for your input. I will speak with the merchant for the top up. Paying 9.9k deal for 65" CX + free rm2k+ air purifier is too hard to pass. Meaning the TV is around 7.9-8k or so.

36° meaning the horizontal viewing angle right? How about head tilt angle? I have tried to sit on the floor in front of the couch to get closer and game ps5 and yeah I will get motion sickness very fast.

My favorite go to movie would be the dark knight, tunnel car chase, football explosion scene and a couple more. Martian is another good movie to test. My current X90H is okay...just that during the tunnel scene, the blooming is quite severe when the tunnel goes pitch black and slight panning judder when the tunnel lights up and batman zooms pass.

Really hope OLED doesn't disappoint me.
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Use the correct preset modes if you don't have the means or tools to properly calibrate. You'll be generally happy with your CX.

Best movies to test:
1) Gemini Man
2) Revenant
3) Passengers
4) One World 7 Planets (ok not a movie, but still IMO the best looking feature documentary today)


QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Sep 20 2021, 02:02 PM)
thanks, wish i could go for cx 65", but rm6k +/- is my best budget.. can only decide x9j 65" or cx 55".

i currently am more leaning to x9j 65" because it is 65" biggger size, android os more streaming apps can be installed like streamio.., LCD = no screen burning worry.

but picture quality wise, oled is the best..
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Well then if RM6k is your max budget, the X90j 65" is not necessarily a bad TV for the price. Go for it.
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post Sep 27 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Sep 27 2021, 02:47 PM)
Or you can stretch your budget a bit like RM400+ then you can get the 55" LG CX OLED. Just an additional option 😁
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This is the right answer. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 9 2021, 09:10 PM

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Depends on your viewing distance. Any more than 5ft, take the 55" x90J. Less than that, the C1 48 is a no brainer.
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post Oct 10 2021, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Halls1234 @ Oct 10 2021, 08:28 AM)
I sit 2 ft away for gaming. Normally 4ft if watching movies
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C1 48" then, easy decision.

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post Oct 18 2021, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Xmatrix @ Oct 16 2021, 11:22 PM)
LG Nano86 or Sony X90J ?
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X90J easy. Not even a competition.
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post Dec 1 2021, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Nov 28 2021, 01:10 PM)
Sigh I think I found the answer online already.

-1 is limiting the bandwidth to HDMI2.0 of 18 Gbps.
-2 is limiting the bandwidth to HDMI1.4 of 10.2 Gbps.

For a 4K 60fps chroma RGB 4:4:4 to work for 10 bit color depth will need 20.05 Gbps. But if I set the 4K transfer rate to Auto, it will max out and forced 12 bit 4:2:2 at 32 Gbps output from console if I am not wrong.

4K 60fps 4:2:2 will need 17.82 Gbps < 18 Gbps.

PS5 should have a setting like XSX to select 8, 10, 12 bit.  vmad.gif
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They can't because PS5 has a gimped HDMI controller, only 32gbps max bandwidth. Series X has 40gbps. Allowing the user to have free option of selecting bit depth may confuse users.

Although in theory 4:4:4 @ 2160p60hz 10-bit would fit into the 32gbps bandwidth, games on PS5 are mastered in 4:2:0. Games on Series X (believe it or not) is mastered in Full RGB because of its compatibility with a Windows backend. Perhaps Sony saw no reason to give users to enable 4:4:4 anyway because it makes no difference at the end of the day.
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post Dec 31 2021, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Dec 31 2021, 04:17 PM)
Guys I'm looking for TV replacement for my Office/gaming desk
which can fit 43 inch MAX,
but nowadays Sony and Samsung line up are mostly 55inch and above due to 4K.
Any good recommendation for 43inch with HDR and 120Hz? 4K is optional because it does not make much difference for screen below 50 inch
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Wait for a bit. There could be a 42" OLED by LG next year.
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post Jan 5 2022, 04:39 PM

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Samsung only doing 55 and 65 for TVs, 34 for monitors with QD-OLED. The 55 price will rival the price of a typical 65 WOLED. The 65 QD-OLED will be more expensive than a 77 WOLED.

So obviously, it's simple economics. The QD-OLEDs are for people who don't ask how much it is, rather they ask how many have you got?
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post Jan 5 2022, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jan 5 2022, 05:13 PM)
LG will be releasing their C2 range in 42" also, that would be a good choice if you space is limited and wanna replace your monitor

best of all, C2 will be using the Evo panel used in G1 last year thumbup.gif

just pray they don't hike up the price too much this year.
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The "Evo" panels are only in sizes 55, 65, 77 and 83". 48 and 42 sizes are stuck with last year's panels.
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post Jan 10 2022, 12:43 PM

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DV4k120 is not a die-die must have feature. You can still do HGIG 4k120, which gives you very close results to DV.

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ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) is thankfully included on the lower tier A1 models, because OLED panels exhibit low latency themselves by their nature of being OLED, self-lit pixels turn on and off so fast and so completely, OLED has the lowest latency out of all the TV panel technology out there. You hear the term GTG on PC monitors or standard TV panels, GTG meaning hoe fast the pixels on the panel go between gray-to-gray when switching between states, affecting latency. OLED has no GTG because pixel speed or pixel response is so fast, it's instantaneous. 


And it's 2022, people still can't differentiate panel response times and input lag. 2 different things, please don't lump them together. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Jan 11 2022, 06:47 AM)
i am using yamaha A820 receiver which is using HDMI2.0A so is LG C1 good for now? Planning to upgrade receiver next year but this year i wanted to get a good OLED TV.
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A820 doesn't have eARC. All Yamaha receivers prior to Axx60 series despite being HDMI 2.0 receivers never received an eARC update eventhough on paper it can support it with no issues.

You can either:
1) Connect all sources to C1, use only ARC to pass audio back to the A820. By doing so, you're limited to lossy audio only.

or

2) Connect all sources to A820, you can still access lossless audio but you'll be limited to 4k60 only when connected to the C1.


My opinion, go for the 2nd route. Not like PS5 has VRR (yet) anyways and games that are 4k120 aren't really 120fps anyways.
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post Feb 15 2022, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Feb 15 2022, 02:15 PM)
Sony Store in US
Selling 65X90J for USD1299
55X90J for USD1099
USD200 difference

But in Malaysia these 2 model are like RM2k difference
Doesnt make sense
https://electronics.sony.com/tv-video/telev...-tvs/p/xr55x90j
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