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Sold out in most places .What TV to use with PS5?
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Sep 24 2020, 12:21 AM) Am torn between Sony x90h 85 inch and LG Cx 65 inch. Both are same price. Ugh. Real estate or best recommended tv from reviewers. Which one u all think more important? Typically I would go for sizes . But in this case the OLED TVs pack a MUCH higher picture quality which X90H can only dream to reach , despite being a decent all-rounder . X90H is not Sony's Flagship TV . It doesn't has some of the more advance picture processing featured in Sony's flagship X1 Ultimate chip set . Plus its dynamic backlight only has 32 zones integrated onto an 85 " screen , the light transition is so much more obvious . Or if you are going to spend thousands of hours playing the same few live service games , Q95T is the best option . This post has been edited by Convael: Sep 24 2020, 06:31 PM |
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Nov 27 2020, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(LeeroyJenkinss @ Nov 27 2020, 02:02 PM) I am sure you can but do you really want to ? The gap of picture quality between entry level and mid-range TV is massive . The gap between mid-ranger and flagship is enormous as well . Then consider this , your game is only looking as good as your viewing screen is . This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 27 2020, 06:51 PM tony_mw, emy_xvidia, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Jan 4 2021, 12:43 PM) I am sorry , what was his point again ? SSJBen liked this post
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So let me get this straight . At first he was the first one who make a huge deal out of it when Sony has officially confirmed nothing . Now , seeing that these malicious rumors are coming back to bite his backside , he made another video to " clarify " on the matter . None of any respectable figure I know within the industry can ever confirm what he say . Not rtings , not HDTVtest from any region , not AVforums , not AVsforums , not flatHDpanel . Yet we have fools who are still watching his videos , cursing and swearing at Sony since the past few days . Another proof people on the internet lack Did we not remember how many apology videos he had to make when he claimed Hisense H9G has better picture quality than OLED TVs ? Or was it that time where he claimed all Netflix videos are " FAKE HDR " ? This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 13 2021, 01:47 PM SSJBen and tracktion3 liked this post
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Sep 14 2021, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(fullmetalneko @ Sep 14 2021, 06:04 PM) As with all other OLED TV , you want to switch to the right mode and tune down the brightness at first . This is crucial because a large majority of the content you will be watching are SDR . Therefore they don't require you to blast the brightness all the way up to 300 - 400 cd/m2 . Expert - dark room is the more accurate mode . OLED light of 20-35 is recommended for dark room , with gamma to BT.1886 OR 2.4 . 40+ for bright living room and gamma to 2.2 . Since you most likely don't have a lightmeter , this is the pretty much the best you can do . Playstation 5 also has a pretty crappy HDR implementation , you want to fix the raised black floor first since this affect picture quality . + 5 points to the brightness during SDR gaming mode should fix the problem . But this is based on the reading on the limited few OLED TVs I owned . For very selected few games , such as CONTROL you want to revert back to default value since the developers have natively tune down the black level of the game . Turn off any sort of sharpening , motion enhancement or smooth gradation . Of course these are for LG OLEDs only . For more basics , check out rtings This post has been edited by Convael: Sep 15 2021, 08:11 AM Kahlamx liked this post
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QUOTE(fullmetalneko @ Sep 15 2021, 07:48 AM) That should cover it I guess, many thanks Yes which is stupid because a lot of games are still not HDR-compatible . Question though, shouldn't the output from the PS5 be HDR instead of SDR? If you forced HDR on these games they are only making the game brighter as a whole , it does not improve Picture quality because dynamic range is still the same . Go to setting - screen and video - video output , tick the " On when supported " option for HDR. PS4 pro did this just fine , I have no idea why Sony has to make them so complicated on PS5 . This post has been edited by Convael: Sep 15 2021, 08:09 AM |
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Sep 19 2021, 07:50 PM) I have purchased the 55" CX but my place is currently still under reno. Now the 65" CX is going for 9.9k. Initially I was thinking its still a bit too much but I found out that they are giving a free LG air purifier that cost 2k+ alone for the 65" purchase. 2.5m is perfectly reasonable for a 65 " 4k screen. I sit ~2.5m away from the TV console and the CX not yet delivery until my place is done. So I still can top up for 65" Should I just go for the extra 40% screen? I am just afraid it might be too big no? I also have a 55 " A9F which is used exclusively for running test pattern and movies , they are roughly 1.5m away from my seat . The closer you are to the screen , the larger your vision angles are being stretched leading to a more cinematic experience . The golden ratio for a 55 " is approximately 1.7m away from the screen , at 36 - 40 degree. This translates to 2.0m for a 65" . For gaming and other purposes , I would add 0.5m to the gap to prevent motion sickness . I usually recommend people to sit slightly closer to OLEDs than typical LCD because you can actually see how amazing the contrast on self emissive screens are , each perfectly lit-up pixel just makes the experience so much more immersive . My new favorite Passengers look unbelievable on OLED screen . Lotsa dark scenes with a bunch of small highlights , my new go-to for Test stressing the PQ of TVs. This post has been edited by Convael: Sep 19 2021, 08:53 PM fullmetalneko and Kahlamx liked this post
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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 4 2021, 10:39 AM) So I was browsing for some cheap tv. I dont mind lack of HDMI 2.1 bcoz my eys are old man one so didn't matter if it was 120Hz all I see was same 60Hz. Is this good enough? Since it got Dolby Vision so its good for my Series X too I think "Good enough " is not the word I would use . Hisense 4K ULED Smart TV (55") 55U7G I did some comparison with Hisense top range U8G with a Samsung before , apparently they are quite a lackluster . And that is an understatement per se . Also screen with higher native refresh rate , generate less motion blurs than one that doesn't even if you are only playing 60hz content . This apply to LCD as well , not just OLED . This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 6 2021, 07:32 PM dark_heart07 liked this post
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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Dec 9 2021, 04:13 PM) Why ? Because higher end LCD has better control of backlight and thus , emit less blue light in the process ? Because you care about watching and seeing what is displaying on your screen ? Because you can afford to spend RM25000 on some random Louis Vuitton limited edition Flipping phone but hesitate to spend even 1/5 of that amount onto a much bigger screen ? Now how about you save some of the blah for yourself ? Your game is only as good looking as your screen . Perhaps you should keep that in mind as well. QUOTE Keep in mind that most ps5 game only support 60fps and some game also do not support hdr.... trust me ur wont use most of the advance feature of this so called great tv.... Do you even understand what is HDR ? You don't need HDR in every game and every circumstance . A more capable TV has already by nature , contributed to higher Dynamic Range by improving contrast ( hence Picture Quality ) even for Non-HDR content . Looks like we got another winner here who bought some TV from the ABC and thinks he has seen it all . Ignorance has no bounds , I guess . QUOTE just go for cheap tv with hdr 4k 60fps, ur will be fine loo and the extra money can be use to purchase more ps5 game.... Sounds like a cheapskate's sentiment to me . Why do you even want to pair a PS5 with Cheap TV ? That's like buying RTX 3090 to play Hello Kitty Online . You definitely don't get HDR from them , you also don't really get 4k from some of them since they are RGBW panels . Therefore out of " 4k 60fps HDR " package , You may only end up getting 1/3 of the deal . The 60hz refresh rate from LCD is only going to hinder your experience even further because any 24p cutscene is going to " hiccup " in your face . You don't need to buy and own every PS5 game out there , only the one that you really wanted to play and you will end up getting a much more immersive experience . This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 10 2021, 04:54 PM KomradMikhail, shinjite, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Dec 17 2021, 04:40 PM) So Malaysian QN90A is unlike those VA in the US reviewed by rtings? The other day I was at SenQ to check it out cause I also not sure if its VA or IPS. I asked the sales person and he is also not quite sure but they came back to me and said VA. But nevertheless, I still think price is a bit on the high side for now. Unless it is the 85" , all of them are IPS .I cant seem to find info for the malaysia side for this model. It has been proven beyond a doubt , screen-scanned by me and by our fellow forum mates as well . Your shop guy probably went online and checked from rtings , and saw the TV with the same models and thought they found the answer . The QN90A of US is the same line up as QN95A in Uk / Europe , which is not available in Malaysia . This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 17 2021, 04:49 PM |
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You can definitely tell the difference in very specific scenes . The problem gets worse when you consider that Hisense TV does not come with any smooth-gradation features . This caused some movies filmed with grainy effects a lot " noisier " than usual due to the lack of " grades " to progress from one to another . You can get a X90J 55 " for less than 4k during one of these xx / xx sales , saving 1000 going for U7G just to have sub-par picture quality and inferior FALD system sounds a little absurd to me . Hisense has also fallen far behind other brands when it comes to picture processing and upscaling . I hate to tell people they don't have much of a choice here but that is just the fact with the MY TV market . This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 2 2022, 03:36 PM KomradMikhail and Kahlamx liked this post
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QUOTE(KomradMikhail @ Jan 11 2022, 04:57 PM) Someone in my circle of friends has the JZ1000 and IIANM he was looking into upgrading due to the JZ1000 only goes up to 4K60. Who is your friend ?I have just tested JZ1000 a month ago and they can both do 4K 120 , JZ1000 has 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports . QUOTE(KomradMikhail @ Jan 10 2022, 11:13 AM) My ultimate endgame TV? Currently it's Samsung's 2022 Micro LED TV. But first I need to get a bigger house to fit that 89 inch behemoth (smallest size available), not to mention more saving up every month. Until then, I'm happy with my C1. It is actually available now if you want it . You just need to contact Samsung as they need to arrange a team to scout your house / theater room . They will then have to assemble the parts separately from Paju before they import it into MY to relocate in your home . Since these Microled are modular based , which means the size it can fit into is flexible , as long as you are willing to pay . (The size is flexible but the resolution Pixel density remains a challenge ) Again , expect to pay at least half a million MYR for them . It may become cheaper this year but still won't be affordable to the general public . There are still a lot of problems plaguing MicroLED , such as the " seam ' that comes from modular pieces , not able to achieve the advertised brightness and black levels still leave a lot to desire compare to OLED . If you expect Samsung to solve all of these problems in their 2022 edition while they are focusing on Quantum Dots Blue OLEDs , it is going to take a miracle . This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 26 2022, 08:11 PM |
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QUOTE(KomradMikhail @ Jan 26 2022, 07:54 PM) 4K60 at purchase a year back, with the recent November 2021 update, enables the 4K120 but still no 4K120 with Dolby Vision. 4K120 DV is not possible due to hardware limitation. Has JZ1000 been released for a year ? It was available in MY since late November and late September 2021 in UK .https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1637751601 The MY unit supports 4k 120 out of the box , I was in Panasonic's Subang warehouse and is one of the first person who tested the batch , using a Murideo 7G . 4K120 dv doesn't bother me and should not bother you either , since no games or movies runs at that resolution and fps natively beside the 2 DV demo atm . This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 27 2022, 08:27 PM |
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Feb 4 2022, 12:01 PM) My understanding is that Samsung TV always don’t track PQ EOTF 1:1 accurately. Normally their TVs always over brighten and black floor level also raised. Their models in 2020 seem to have " fixed " that . I still would want to own one of the QN90 series though if the smaller sizes are VA in Malaysia side. It was following EOTF's standard much better than previous years which is why I compare it against Hisense's TV . » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Feb 8 2022, 06:27 PM) I remember Vincent complained that Samsung TV wouldn't let him calibrate to reference filmmaker settings. His Samsung TV review is sponsored by 3rd party , Samsung has no say in the matter . Unless you are referring to that time where Samsung was inviting media to closed door event , like the QD OLED showcase , in which case Samsung was deliberately trying to show how saturated their QD Blue OLEDs can be , compare to wRGB OLED . Regardless it was a logical choice because it wasn't a competition of accuracy like TV shoutouts , it was a comparison of color volume / saturation . This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 8 2022, 08:55 PM Kahlamx liked this post
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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Feb 15 2022, 02:15 PM) Sony Store in US Why not ? The more units they sold , the more discounts they can give . Selling 65X90J for USD1299 55X90J for USD1099 USD200 difference But in Malaysia these 2 model are like RM2k difference Doesnt make sense https://electronics.sony.com/tv-video/telev...-tvs/p/xr55x90j Obviously they sold a crapload more TVs in Europe and US than in MY . This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 15 2022, 02:46 PM |
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QUOTE(kennobi @ Feb 23 2022, 05:18 PM) No the comparison is invalid in MY . The SEA region does not get Hisense TV models with the same specs as US . |
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