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augustinesoh
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Nov 11 2008, 01:04 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(capultion @ Nov 11 2008, 10:05 AM) HN IKANO. Alex.. Waiting for his call. Or may be I should call him. Ya, Alex Choy is the one who sold me my Onkyo 805 recently for RM3.5K. Told me HN Ikano didn't hv stocks of the older (2007) models but that he can get me direct from Hwee Seng (the official disty here in M'sia). Said it comes with full warranty & all that. He and his son (Adrian, who BTW works at HN Pavilion) delivered to my house a couple of weekends back. Paid them cash for it. Was given what looked like an original warranty certificate from Hwee Seng (with Hwee Seng rubber stamp and all). Didn't think to check at the time but later when i was filling up the warranty noticed that it didnt hv the dealer's chop or details. Called Alex and he reassured me that it wouldnt be a problem. Said i could call Hwee Seng direct to confirm this. i took him up on his offer and spoke to a Ms. Chin at Hwee Seng who told me they require a dealer chop on the warranty card. She asked me for the serial no. so she could check with her records which dealer took that particular unit. She later called me back to inform me that she couldnt find that info and advised that i go back to the place that sold it to me to get the chop. All Alex could offer me was a simple cash receipt. All sounds a bit dodgy if you ask me. Been busy with work and other commitments after that and havent spoke to him since. Hmmm... Must go look for him this weekend.
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myqd
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Nov 11 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Nov 11 2008, 11:36 AM) I won't listen to Pure Audio mode because my speakers are not full range/band. If you activate Pure Audio, all LF crossover setting will be bypassed. Everything will be fed to the speakers untouched, the speakers will be forced the to produce the low frequencies that they can't handle. QUOTE(augustinesoh @ Nov 11 2008, 12:50 PM) I listen to most of my audio CDs in Pure Audio. Speakers are a pair of PSB Image T45s. thanks aiman04 and augustinesoh for sharing same with aiman04,i found listen to audio at Pure audio lack of ummph as i'm using floorstander now,previously using bookshelf still not so bad....but i like the display on 876 automatic turn off when i Pure audio mode.I now mostly choose "Stereo" when listen to CD. augustinesoh,if i finally got a apir of ProAc Tabettle 50 or AE1,i will try it out with Pure Audio mode,should be nice
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anfieldude
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Nov 11 2008, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(myqd @ Nov 11 2008, 01:16 PM) thanks aiman04 and augustinesoh for sharing same with aiman04,i found listen to audio at Pure audio lack of ummph as i'm using floorstander now,previously using bookshelf still not so bad....but i like the display on 876 automatic turn off when i Pure audio mode.I now mostly choose "Stereo" when listen to CD. augustinesoh,if i finally got a apir of ProAc Tabettle 50 or AE1,i will try it out with Pure Audio mode,should be nice  I tried pure Audio compared to dedicated amp. While Pure Audio is ok (in my case it is only used as a pre amp since I use the pre-outs to my integrated amp), there is a difference. I believe even though Pure Audio is meant to send as clean a signal as possible to the speakers (in my case my amp) there are differences compared to playing the same thing through the dedicated music amplifier. Some form of processing is done in the Onkyo but it is minimal. Of course this is subjective but that's what my ears tell me for now. My setup allows for the sub to be turned on thus making it full range even when listening to music. The good thing is that in Pure Audio the full spectrum of frequency is sent to the speakers (or pre-out) thus enabling the lower frequencies to be captured unlike some of the other modes that will clip the spectrum based on your Audyssey or equalizer setting in the Setup page. myqd, forgot to answer your earlier question, my dad uses Musical Fidelity tube pre amps, Amcron power amplifiers and 15" Tannoy Speaker drivers using custom built speaker cabinet. Huge speaker cabinet almost 4.5feet high and 3feet wide. He has been using these speakers for the last 20yrs. Great for jazz and orchestral pieces. Sorry OT... This post has been edited by anfieldude: Nov 11 2008, 02:45 PM
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capultion
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Nov 11 2008, 03:57 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(augustinesoh @ Nov 11 2008, 01:04 PM) Ya, Alex Choy is the one who sold me my Onkyo 805 recently for RM3.5K. Told me HN Ikano didn't hv stocks of the older (2007) models but that he can get me direct from Hwee Seng (the official disty here in M'sia). Said it comes with full warranty & all that. He and his son (Adrian, who BTW works at HN Pavilion) delivered to my house a couple of weekends back. Paid them cash for it. Was given what looked like an original warranty certificate from Hwee Seng (with Hwee Seng rubber stamp and all). Didn't think to check at the time but later when i was filling up the warranty noticed that it didnt hv the dealer's chop or details. Called Alex and he reassured me that it wouldnt be a problem. Said i could call Hwee Seng direct to confirm this. i took him up on his offer and spoke to a Ms. Chin at Hwee Seng who told me they require a dealer chop on the warranty card. She asked me for the serial no. so she could check with her records which dealer took that particular unit. She later called me back to inform me that she couldnt find that info and advised that i go back to the place that sold it to me to get the chop. All Alex could offer me was a simple cash receipt. All sounds a bit dodgy if you ask me. Been busy with work and other commitments after that and havent spoke to him since. Hmmm... Must go look for him this weekend.  Just came back from HN. Sent My sub to Alex. Alex promised me to replace with a new one. For temporary, He gave me same sub model as a loan and he will send me a new Sub very soon. Good. At least he show his commitment. Now enjoying a Bang, bang.
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augustinesoh
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Nov 11 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(capultion @ Nov 11 2008, 03:57 PM) Just came back from HN. Sent My sub to Alex. Alex promised me to replace with a new one. For temporary, He gave me same sub model as a loan and he will send me a new Sub very soon. Good. At least he show his commitment. Now enjoying a Bang, bang. Thats good to hear. Maybe it was just bad luck you got a defective unit. Hope it all turns out good in the end.
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anfieldude
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Nov 13 2008, 01:54 PM
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A quick update on the Onkyo Reon.
I carried out some tests using display calibration equipment on the effects of turning on the Reon on the grayscale calibration and the colour points. Here are my observations.
The Reon processor does not change the grayscale too much. There is some minor change in the absolute black levels and the white levels. All the changes are within the normal variation of the calibration equipment and not more than 1ft/L. However, the same cannot be said about the colour points. The Reon alters the colour points of all the primaries and secondaries quite a bit. This happens for all signals except 1080p/24fps. Any signals from 480i/60fps to 1080i/60fps are changed significantly. The differences can be calibrated out but it depends on the display capabilities. The good thing is that it absolutely does not touch the 1080p/24 signals. So this means that you can safely turn on the Reon and calibrate out the colour differences for your DVD viewing and since it does not touch the BD signals as long as it is 1080p/24 you should be ok. You should be able to see the colour differences by turning off/on the Reon especially on human flesh tones. The change is not subtle. I do not have the with/without calibration results with me now. I will post them if anyone is interested.
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myqd
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Nov 13 2008, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 13 2008, 01:54 PM) The change is not subtle. I do not have the with/without calibration results with me now. I will post them if anyone is interested. thanks for the test and yes,i'm interested,pls show us some comparison.I'm using 876 with Reon-VX,din notice much different with 480 sources from satelite ( to AE900 720p PJ ).
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anfieldude
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Nov 13 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(myqd @ Nov 13 2008, 05:21 PM) thanks for the test and yes,i'm interested,pls show us some comparison.I'm using 876 with Reon-VX,din notice much different with 480 sources from satelite ( to AE900 720p PJ ).  Ok will post some calibration charts later tonight or tomorrow. BTW the 876 has no problems with colour alteration by the Reon. They fixed the problem from what I have heard and read in AVS forums. Edit: Will post the charts after Monday. Found some interesting stuff when I was doing further tests on the colour space issues last night... This post has been edited by anfieldude: Nov 15 2008, 01:07 PM
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mys_terious
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Nov 16 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 13 2008, 08:08 PM) Ok will post some calibration charts later tonight or tomorrow. BTW the 876 has no problems with colour alteration by the Reon. They fixed the problem from what I have heard and read in AVS forums. Edit: Will post the charts after Monday. Found some interesting stuff when I was doing further tests on the colour space issues last night... bro i see 876 n 906 spec it says 'ISF'.. does it mean if your tv kenot calibrate the colours , u can still use your receiver to do it..
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myqd
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Nov 16 2008, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Nov 16 2008, 10:27 AM) bro i see 876 n 906 spec it says 'ISF'.. does it mean if your tv kenot calibrate the colours , u can still use your receiver to do it.. Ya,u can adjust the picture setting with ur AVR,different mode with different setting also can,say "DVD" with higher contrast and less brightness, "VCR" with low contrast more colour.U can also edit the name to ur liking,like change the "DVD" to BD
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anfieldude
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Nov 16 2008, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(myqd @ Nov 16 2008, 11:22 AM) Ya,u can adjust the picture setting with ur AVR,different mode with different setting also can,say "DVD" with higher contrast and less brightness, "VCR" with low contrast more colour.U can also edit the name to ur liking,like change the "DVD" to BD  Bro, 876 and 906 can do more than adjust brightness and contrast, both of these have grayscale adjustments (2 point) and this can adjust grayscale for displays that do not have the controls. However there is no CMS. There is brightness, contrast, noise reduction, grayscale and i believe hue and saturation.
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myqd
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Nov 17 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(myqd @ Nov 16 2008, 11:22 AM) Ya,u can adjust the picture setting with ur AVR,different mode with different setting also can, say "DVD" with higher contrast and less brightness, "VCR" with low contrast more colour.U can also edit the name to ur liking,like change the "DVD" to BD  hehe,that's why i wrote "say" which is just an example
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rakyat
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Nov 18 2008, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(SEP910 @ Nov 11 2008, 11:26 AM) I wont go there any more, HN ikano, I look and ask about 806 and 876, the price stated there about RM7k and RM5k ++, that sales person show me, AV receiver that price tag with RM2.5k ++, he said, I recommend you this. 876 can get @ RM6.5k, nearly bought but settled for 905 instead. Overall satisfied but the bugger do run HOT!!!
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myqd
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Nov 18 2008, 04:31 PM
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the 876 at my place here ( Sarawak) can get below 6k
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rakyat
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Nov 19 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(myqd @ Nov 18 2008, 04:31 PM) the 876 at my place here ( Sarawak) can get below 6k  Means the Desa guy tried to pull a fast one on me. Thot it was a good deal as CMY quoted RM7k; how come cheaper over there? Thot AV would be more xpensive takin a/c of the shipping. Funny thing is Onkyo is manuf. in M'sia but its more here xpensive than in US
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myqd
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Nov 19 2008, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Nov 19 2008, 12:10 PM) how come cheaper over there? Emm,not sure why but that's what my supplier quote me and i oledi get myself a 876 from him
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cmw_kwl_6923
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Nov 19 2008, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(SEP910 @ Nov 11 2008, 11:26 AM) I wont go there any more, HN ikano, I look and ask about 806 and 876, the price stated there about RM7k and RM5k ++, that sales person show me, AV receiver that price tag with RM2.5k ++, he said, I recommend you this. Still haven got your product? i mean av receiver?
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anfieldude
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Nov 20 2008, 08:35 AM
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Sorry guys. Was supposed to post my charts on the Reon issues but have been tied up. Will do it as soon as I get the time.
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rakyat
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Nov 20 2008, 01:38 PM
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To Onkyo sifus,
Whether better to go for 7.1 or stick with 5.1 + bi-amp? Currently have the latter and there is a mark improvement in the AQ (bi-amp). I
s it worth getting another pair of speakers and sacrifice bi-amp?
Anyway to modify so can 7.1 + bi-amp on the 905 since I don't use Room 2?
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myqd
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Nov 20 2008, 06:22 PM
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if can hear improvement from bi-amp,better stay with it.Furthermore not many BDs come with 7.1 if not mistaken. in my case,since i got a spare power amp,i bi-amp using the front pre out to my power amp driving the "low" whereby the original front terminal to drive the "high".With that,i still can use 7.1 if i need to
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