Emm...are u sure the front pre-out on AVR can output to an integrated amp/pre amp ? Normally the front pre-out on AVR i used only to connect to a power amp(without any volume/level control and i still use the volume control on my AVR (previously using Denon,now 876).U cant connect a CD player directly into a power amp cos most pure power amp are without vol/level control and as u mentioned,it may damage ur spk .(The power amp i'm using is Denon POA-T10.) FYI,my power amp never had any pre-out/level/volome control,only had input terminal.Below is how it look like :



pics taken online,i can help to snap some pics of the back panel if u re interested

Ok, maybe I am confusing people with my statements. Right now, my setup is such. I own a Holfi Megarus 928 upgraded integrated amp. CD out from Holfi CD player to CD input in integrated amp. For my AV setup, PS3 HDMI to Onkyo. At Onkyo, Front channel L/R pre-out to aux in on my integrated amp. Centre channels and surround channels hooked up to speaker outs in Onkyo. Sub hooked to Onkyo into LFE channel of sub. Sub also hooked to Holfi amplifier used a dedicated sub-out on the Holfi amplifier (L/R) for music listening. If I watch movies, I select aux on the amplifier and fix the volume that I marked when I carried out Audyssey. When listening to music, all music is listened from CD to Holfi only. Hope this is clear. So, pre-out from the fronts can be sent to an integrated amp. Think of it, all it is doing is sending the front channel signals to an amplifier.

You are correct, power amps typically have input to receive from dedicated pre amplifier, as such you can send the pre-out from the Onkyo into a power amp as well. The only downside is that there is no volume/level controls on most power amps, so when the test signals are played thru the Onkyo it can be very loud. My dad has a tube pre amp and a separate power amp. His power amp has speaker A/B, volume controls for each individual L/R channel among others.

Hope this helps.

hehe,ok,i actually understand ur connection as u mentioned earlier Nevermind,u got ur point and i like the Hofli amp,simple but looks very neat and nice. I currebtky thinking of setting up another pure audio system,maybe using a tube pre/power or integrated tube amp,maybe u can share the brand/model of ur dad tube pre/power amp? thanks in advance.

To all onkyp AVR user,i understand the recent models of Onkyo AVR can bi-amp the front spk using front/surr back terminals.So anyone try that b4? How's the different? Clear diff or just minor diff ? I'm asking cos thinking of Bi-amping 876 with a pair of Axis LS-88 floor stander,add a power amp from surr back to drive the "high" and original front spk out to drive the "low",what u guys think?

My old amp onkyo going to die soon,
any idea where can I audition "Onkyo" in KL?

Brother,

What is your budget? how about onkyo TX - NR 905?

Can just go to HN IKEA for audition. But don't buy there, expensive. Buy somewhere else.

Fixed. Or maybe the newer 906. Seriously, check the specs first, not necessarily must get the higher end, the one meet your fetures and room requirements andwithin your budget should be just nice, 806 maybe.

I already check at HN bukit tinggi klang, but not so many models there,
BTW where else got Onkyo models others that HN,
Yea agree with you might check the 806 also,
Still considering between Pioneer and Onkyo,
But for me I prefer Onkyo.
Any idea guys,
TQ

This post has been edited by SEP910: Nov 7 2008, 07:51 AM

I would give Pioneer a miss unless it is 'Elite' series. Onkyo could easily trumped Pioneer in AQ

NR905 is the correct model...isnt it? the S is for those models below it

how old is ur amp?? wat do u mean by dying??
wat model issit?

My amp old is about 7 years, the model is TX-DS595B,
what I mean by dying is,
Now some of the button is not functioning and no video output,
some time surround speaker sound is intermittent.
It's DSP board problem and might going to die soon.

Brother,
You are right, the " N " mean for networking AV REceiver.

Ok,just tested and confirm : even u pre-out (any pre out,front/surr/surr back) the signal to a power amp,the speaker terminal from Onkyo still got "sound" (pardon my poor english).I tested it with Axis LS-88 (5 way floorstander),pre-out from front spk to Denon POA-T10 THX power amp,connect the bi-amp-able LS-88 "upper" spk terminal to Denon and "lower" spk terminal to Onkyo.I found the overall sound is more "control".The bass now is more "tight",not boomy.I turn the onkyo 876 volume to 73 db(absolute) at Stereo Mode and listening to audio CD (subwoofer not used).The combination sounds very satisfy to my ear.Never imagine a AVR can sound so nice for pure audio listening......However,i dun like the "Pure Audio" mode on Onkyo,feel like lack of UMMph,not syiok enuf.

below're CDs used for audio test ( not all audiophiles but some track are really good for testing ) I love Holy Cole Trio(Tenesse Walz),Rebecca Pigeon( Four Mary & Spanish Harlem) & Jannefer Warns( Famous Blue Raincoat)


Anyone use Onkyo AVR for pure CD audio listening here? Mind to share what're the speaker used ?

This post has been edited by myqd: Nov 9 2008, 12:50 PM

Guys, New in HT here.. You correct, don't buy from HN. It expensive and also sell you a crap. I just got ONKYO TXS-SR 606 + JAMO S606+ JAMO SUB 300 today from Ikano HN. Guess what happen? After finish setup the AVR 2 hrs ago and with excitement wanna run the Audessey,Suddenly my Steam got potong.. I noticed no electric power on my Sub, Suey.. I got Kaput Sub. Called my Sale man, he said he need to check with office tomorrow and probably will send Technician to look for my Sub.

Guys, What should i do? Is it possible to get one to one replacement? Appreciate your advise.

regards

Which HN did you buy from? And which salesperson did you deal with?

HN IKANO. Alex..

Waiting for his call. Or may be I should call him.

I wont go there any more, HN ikano,
I look and ask about 806 and 876, the price stated there about RM7k and RM5k ++,
that sales person show me, AV receiver that price tag with RM2.5k ++,
he said, I recommend you this.

those are the srp.... 663 selling for 2k+++

I won't listen to Pure Audio mode because my speakers are not full range/band.

If you activate Pure Audio, all LF crossover setting will be bypassed. Everything will be fed to the speakers untouched, the speakers will be forced the to produce the low frequencies that they can't handle.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Nov 11 2008, 11:37 AM

I listen to most of my audio CDs in Pure Audio. Speakers are a pair of PSB Image T45s.