Those are good suggestions. The norden and Toureg are both too tall and out of budget. If my budget was healthy enough, I would have gotten the 790 Adv. ..excellent as a bike other than it's less than perfect reliability and electronic foibles and looks only a mother could love. Lightweight, very balanced, exceptionally good on road manners for something with a 21" front, capable off road, low enough for my short legs. Perfect for my requirements...except being about 20k out of budget.

The 401 is the single cyc problem....just like the 390Adv. Not different enough to my current dominar to justify the 30k+ expenditure.

The XADV is an excellent touring bike. Less so for off-road. Smaller tyres and quite long wheelbase, meaning break over clearance is limited. Same problem with my dominar...end up scraping my exhaust. But it's moot point anyway..no new XADVs and used ones are selling over retail price.

Tough selection. May have to go with 2 bikes. A bigger sports tourer and something more off roady like a CRF250 or KLX250. Keep looking I suppose. I though 40-50k budget should be pretty healthy for a bike..I guess I thought wrong.

I may just pick a cheap cfmoto 650GT or 700CLX sport for highway....save my budget and worry about off road with another bike.

Norden and Tuareg, its for Europeans from Netherlands, (read 180cm and above)

V2 X-ADV (Asian version) have better V-Shaped seat in order to giving more kepit feeling between your balls so your leg can touched the ground better.

But X-ADV waiting list will be until the next PRU.

I forgot about Versys X-250.

But the bike is way overprice IMHO now. If only Modenas will bring it back to local market.
The ones BSH bringing in are the Asian or European version?

Hopefully they will stuff the new twin into more bikes. Just like honda.

I'm lost for bikes now....can't seem to find a suitable light/middle weight adventure/sports tourer to replace my dominar.

Born with short legs, almost all the current ADVs are too tall.

The 790 ADV fits perfect and a great bike on and off road but too expensive...almost 80k.
The 800DE and Transalp likely too tall. The Vstrom and versys 650 tall and heavy. Almost all Chinese ADVs are too heavy to be taken off road with short legs. Tracer 7 takde masuk. 500x, good luck with BSH, same for the underpowered CRF250 rally. KTM shelved plans for the 490...so no 490 Adventure. Tiger 900 with low seat is ok, but price problem like the KTM. Himalayan? Too underpowered, maybe wait for the new 450 version.

That leaves the Tiger sport? The Morini is quite decent if it was lower by an inch.
Still hoping if I can turn the 8s into a sport touring bike. Have to see how to mount luggage on the back.  Or fingers crossed for Suzuki to do a 800cc version of the GSXs1000 sport touring bike.

Even my GSXS 750 can be turned to sport touring..    If creative enough, can do DIY.. This and my previous ER6n 1st model I DIY myself.. Or if lazy can bring for shop to do custom.. Both I retain the handle's height because I am fine with it, and I don't want to lose its sportiness handling.. Anyway, GSXS 1000 GT is already out which is a sport touring model..

Even my GSXS 750 can be turned to sport touring.. 

Anyway, GSXS 1000 GT is already out which is a sport touring model..

And gsx-s1000gt getting pretty much universal acclaim from pretty much every reviewer. Side panniers can even fit full face wtf

Haha, of course you can.

But sport/sport naked bikes tend not to be so ideal for 2up.

My budget is 40 to 50k which unfortunately excludes the GSX s1000GT.

Test ride event last weekend

Hopefully they will stuff the new twin into more bikes. Just like honda.

I'm lost for bikes now....can't seem to find a suitable light/middle weight adventure/sports tourer to replace my dominar.

Born with short legs, almost all the current ADVs are too tall.

The 790 ADV fits perfect and a great bike on and off road but too expensive...almost 80k.
The 800DE and Transalp likely too tall. The Vstrom and versys 650 tall and heavy. Almost all Chinese ADVs are too heavy to be taken off road with short legs. Tracer 7 takde masuk. 500x, good luck with BSH, same for the underpowered CRF250 rally. KTM shelved plans for the 490...so no 490 Adventure. Tiger 900 with low seat is ok, but price problem like the KTM. Himalayan? Too underpowered, maybe wait for the new 450 version.

That leaves the Tiger sport? The Morini is quite decent if it was lower by an inch.
Still hoping if I can turn the 8s into a sport touring bike. Have to see how to mount luggage on the back.  Or fingers crossed for Suzuki to do a 800cc version of the GSXs1000 sport touring bike.

i went to this test ride event since it's quite close.


rode a few bikes.


spent the most time with the vstrom.
didn't follow the pre-planned route. i took it to some bad roads and gravel agriculture roads around the area.
if you want something for long distance touring, will do 2up with panniers, can do some mild offroad, more power and upgrade from your dominar,

do test ride the vstrom 650. it's not as tall or heavy as 800cc+ midweight
not much power tho. might feel the same as your dominar.

bmw f800gs, bmw f750gs, bmw f850gs. f800gs with the rear tank doesn't feel as heavy as f850gs. f700gs/f650gs is even shorter and lighter.
crf 250 don't make much power and not nice on the highway. topspeed 110-120, lack of power to overtake.

the himalayan and scram 411 don't make a lot of power. heavy clutch. 5 speed gearbox. might feel a downgrade from your dom

i feel the 790 adv is too expensive for the asking price.
no cruise control. non adjustable suspension.
some features like adjustable traction control, slip control you need to get the rally pack or tech pack.
tiger 900 has more features vs 790adv at the same price.

but going past 800cc the accessories and parts price is really on another planet.
you drop the bike offroad and hit a rut or a rock RIP wallet 

paskaljaycee1
I thought V-strom 650 likes to be revved? Somehow I see it's tuned for higher RPM.
Never did ride one but few guys around me have it. Don't get me wrong, it's good enough to chug along slowly as well.

paskaljaycee1
I thought V-strom 650 likes to be revved? Somehow I see it's tuned for higher RPM.
Never did ride one but few guys around me have it. Don't get me wrong, it's good enough to chug along slowly as well.

Actually the Vstrom 650 powerplant is perfectly fine for it's intented purpose. Very flexible engine. I don't see anyone complaining though....maybe only those used to litre bike powerplants or those newer parallel twins from KTM like the 790 and 890.

Actually the Vstrom 650 powerplant is perfectly fine for it's intented purpose. Very flexible engine. I don't see anyone complaining though....maybe only those used to litre bike powerplants or those newer parallel twins from KTM like the 790 and 890.

i feel that there's not much torque from the engine. maybe like you said it's tuned for higher rpm.
kindda hard to powerslide (even on gravel) just from engine power alone. even after turning off traction control.

with that engine i feel that you don't even need traction control haha 
it feels like cb500x, good enough but not much fun factor. feels quite boring to be honest.
ktm tuning is really fun.
feels like it's trying to kill you if you mess too much with it.

same with triumph. feels fun and lively. boatload of torque in the lower rpm.
sport mode, and if the road wet, you'll powerslide on the white lane marking just by twisting the throttle.
then traction control kicks in and you'll recover.

fun as hell. 

that's what I understand, thanks for the insights
haven't test ride anything big cc just sitting here reading up spec sheets
I heard it's quite sedate, unlike the MT07... thanks for validating

I absolutely hate busting my knuckles each time I hard to break out the c spanner.

yang mana satu?

Hold onto your GSX-S750 since it's rumoured replacement, the GSX-S8 is going to the twin and no longer inline four. Yes I'm a big fan of inline four sound.  :lol2: