Sad to see Suzuki dropping the v twin in the "V"Strom. But I get it...it's well overdue for a proper update.. Hopefully they can eek out a bit more performance with the expected lighter weight....maybe now with a more compact motor, can follow honda and angle the engine down, lowering CoG.

Thats the part I found odd. In some article on the new 700 twin, they showed a picture of a turbo twin. Very very interesting.

Looks like there is a new arms race brewing in the middleweight segment. Honda's new 755 might pack 92hp....very impressive numbers.

Power seems suspiciously low for a 250 twin.

The vstrom 250 sounds interesting.

The Suzuki dealer said they are expecting the bikes and demo bikes to be coming in around June. So yeah..pretty soon. Going to be expensive though. CBU.high 40s.

Let's hope it's not the case. The 8s is one of my shortlisted bikes. Hopefully the price would be lower than expected. Well Suzuki dealer thinks as such...considering the s750 is now hovering about 48k.

But I won't expect the 8s to be any less than 45k. This is considering the base price of the 8s is 20% higher than the Hornet, which should come in low 40s....(slightly less than the 650r) assuming we can actually get honda bikes from Big wing.

But we have seen some quite aggressive pricing from Suzuki Malaysia when they came back...hopefully this will continue.

Hopefully they will stuff the new twin into more bikes. Just like honda.

I'm lost for bikes now....can't seem to find a suitable light/middle weight adventure/sports tourer to replace my dominar.

Born with short legs, almost all the current ADVs are too tall.

The 790 ADV fits perfect and a great bike on and off road but too expensive...almost 80k.
The 800DE and Transalp likely too tall. The Vstrom and versys 650 tall and heavy. Almost all Chinese ADVs are too heavy to be taken off road with short legs. Tracer 7 takde masuk. 500x, good luck with BSH, same for the underpowered CRF250 rally. KTM shelved plans for the 490...so no 490 Adventure. Tiger 900 with low seat is ok, but price problem like the KTM. Himalayan? Too underpowered, maybe wait for the new 450 version.

That leaves the Tiger sport? The Morini is quite decent if it was lower by an inch.


Still hoping if I can turn the 8s into a sport touring bike. Have to see how to mount luggage on the back. Or fingers crossed for Suzuki to do a 800cc version of the GSXs1000 sport touring bike.

Those are good suggestions. The norden and Toureg are both too tall and out of budget. If my budget was healthy enough, I would have gotten the 790 Adv. ..excellent as a bike other than it's less than perfect reliability and electronic foibles and looks only a mother could love. Lightweight, very balanced, exceptionally good on road manners for something with a 21" front, capable off road, low enough for my short legs. Perfect for my requirements...except being about 20k out of budget.

The 401 is the single cyc problem....just like the 390Adv. Not different enough to my current dominar to justify the 30k+ expenditure.

The XADV is an excellent touring bike. Less so for off-road. Smaller tyres and quite long wheelbase, meaning break over clearance is limited. Same problem with my dominar...end up scraping my exhaust. But it's moot point anyway..no new XADVs and used ones are selling over retail price.

Tough selection. May have to go with 2 bikes. A bigger sports tourer and something more off roady like a CRF250 or KLX250. Keep looking I suppose. I though 40-50k budget should be pretty healthy for a bike..I guess I thought wrong.

I may just pick a cheap cfmoto 650GT or 700CLX sport for highway....save my budget and worry about off road with another bike.

Haha, of course you can.

But sport/sport naked bikes tend not to be so ideal for 2up.

My budget is 40 to 50k which unfortunately excludes the GSX s1000GT.

Yeah..my thoughts exactly. Already tried the Vstrom 650. Decent bike but looking for something lower and lighter.

The 790adventure would be perfect if not for the too high price. You just don't seem to get good value for money. And yes, I agree the tiger 900 on the lower seat setting would be better value ..except for the stupid T plane engine.

Actually the Vstrom 650 powerplant is perfectly fine for it's intented purpose. Very flexible engine. I don't see anyone complaining though....maybe only those used to litre bike powerplants or those newer parallel twins from KTM like the 790 and 890.

The CP2 is a gem of an engine. Very punchy lowdown . Lightweight bike. Small and compact. I think in terms of outright fun, only the duke 790 is competition with similar power delivery, just a notch higher...but at a different price point. KTM sure can't do electronics reliably and styling, but they sure know how to build a fun engine.

The sv650 is quite a nice bike as well, just not as lively as the Yamaha. But it's likely weight and that 19" front wheel makes the Vstrom feel weaker and duller. But fit for purpose. One feature you don't see on bikes that price point is the remote preload adjuster....great for touring bikes for easy adjustment depending on 2up or luggage. I absolutely hate busting my knuckles each time I hard to break out the c spanner.

I'm guessing the 800DE

I think Suzuki missed an opportunity to launch a more road touring orientated model beneath the 800DE for those that only take a bike as far as light gravel only.

17/19 wheel combo. Less aggressive but stiffer suspension and 30mm lower seat height.

Would sell like hotcakes replacing the old vstrom650.

Quite the different beast.

The 800MT is more a big tourer than something I would even try to take beyond light gravel.

My Dominar feels like a kapchai parked next to a 800MT.

I'm just preplexed why Suzuki didn't see it fit to put cruise control on both the 8S and 800DE, especially the DE. On longer trips is such a relief to be able to take your hand of the throttle for even a minute or so...

Just went to have a test ride on the 8S. A few rounds around the block.

Punchy engine. Good midrange. Reminds me of the KTM790. Nice TFT. Interesting exhaust note.

Typical of Suzuki....signal lamps still bulb type. Hahahaha.

Jumped on the 800DE. Leg cannot reach floor. Hahaha.

Let's hope Suzuki will do the 19/17 combo version of a more road friendly 800DE. Dealer seems to think there is such model in the pipeline...

Apa ini?

2024 gixxer 10R? Or the 8R based on the current 8S twin?

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jul 15 2023, 10:10 PM

Lower end twin? As far as I know there is a huge price hole in Suzukis lineup. The 8s is 51k.

No doubt they are filling the hole with the sv and old vstrom...at least until they develop a new bike....which I dont think will be the case.

Before the price hike, SVs were 35k and the classic vstrom was 38k. Both bikes are severely dated.....unless you die die want a budget v twin.

Yeah... Suzuki's big bike ranges starts from the 8S...if not for the older bikes.

There is still value in the SV and classic vstrom. Known reliability, v twin smooth, plenty of aftermarket parts. We've just being spoiled by KTM power delivery.

If only they updated the old vstrom .... There is a 20k gap (!!) between it and the new 800DE. Wouldn't mind the old vstrom if they got it a bit lighter, get full led lights and a TFT screen. Still a good bike.

Maybe here early 2024. Road biased version of the vstrom 800DE called the 800RE. 17/19 combo wheels, lower suspension. 825mm seat height. Upgraded radial front brakes from the 8S. Standard quickshifter. Touring windshield.

Price to be somewhere between the 8S and 800DE.

Interesting.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 7 2023, 06:13 PM

Such as?

AFAIK, they downgraded the suspension with less adjustability. The QS is still standard. You do get a taller touring screen as standard.

But it remains to be seen what comes with the bike when it gets here.