QUOTE(james.6831 @ Feb 23 2021, 07:51 AM)
If you following Cathie Wood yes by all means Tesla shareholder discussion, Bears and Bulls are welcome
Tesla shareholder discussion, Bears and Bulls are welcome
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Feb 23 2021, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Feb 23 2021, 07:51 AM) Only you yourself can answer this question.Because people who ask this question actually mean, "If I enter now can make money tomorrow ah?" This post has been edited by kelvinlym: Feb 23 2021, 12:52 PM Ziet Inv liked this post
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Feb 24 2021, 10:07 AM
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Feb 25 2021, 01:13 AM
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Lucid’s pitch to investors is much better developed than those of most EV startups. It is run by Peter Rawlinson, the engineer behind Tesla’s Model S. Its first vehicle boasts better battery efficiency than peers, including Tesla, and is already in preproduction, when car makers work with suppliers to iron out fit and finish problems. Deliveries start later this year. If anyone has a shot at breaking into the EV market it is Lucid.
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Feb 25 2021, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 25 2021, 01:13 AM) Lucid’s pitch to investors is much better developed than those of most EV startups. It is run by Peter Rawlinson, the engineer behind Tesla’s Model S. Its first vehicle boasts better battery efficiency than peers, including Tesla, and is already in preproduction, when car makers work with suppliers to iron out fit and finish problems. Deliveries start later this year. If anyone has a shot at breaking into the EV market it is Lucid. Any idea on whose gonna be the battery supplier?https://www.wsj.com/articles/nothing-lucid-...tup-11614174243 |
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Feb 25 2021, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 25 2021, 01:13 AM) Lucid’s pitch to investors is much better developed than those of most EV startups. It is run by Peter Rawlinson, the engineer behind Tesla’s Model S. Its first vehicle boasts better battery efficiency than peers, including Tesla, and is already in preproduction, when car makers work with suppliers to iron out fit and finish problems. Deliveries start later this year. If anyone has a shot at breaking into the EV market it is Lucid. Don't just believe the pitch. Always dig deeper.https://www.wsj.com/articles/nothing-lucid-...tup-11614174243 Their first product is the luxury market. Look at the TAM and make your decision. That valuation puts them currently in the top 10 among automakers. Find out if they have a plan in place for sales growth in the next 5-10 years. Also find out if their technology is proprietary or not and decide if they have any technological or innovative moat. Remember, Tesla used to also start in the luxury sedan market but they have a clear plan on going mass market. meonkutu11 liked this post
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Feb 25 2021, 02:19 PM
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Bros,.... the thing that has changed in the last two week is : Tesla is also 'a Bitcoin company' today. Hence, the valuation methodology has to chg now.
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Feb 25 2021, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 25 2021, 02:19 PM) Bros,.... the thing that has changed in the last two week is : Tesla is also 'a Bitcoin company' today. Hence, the valuation methodology has to chg now. They're not using Bitcoin as a source of profit.It is less than 10% of their cash and less than 0.2% of their valuation. In what way is Tesla a Bitcoin company? Can you show your valuation methodology? |
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Feb 25 2021, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Feb 25 2021, 02:40 AM) Don't just believe the pitch. Always dig deeper. Normal for new startup to start at luxury segment and move to mass market later for volume.Their first product is the luxury market. Look at the TAM and make your decision. That valuation puts them currently in the top 10 among automakers. Find out if they have a plan in place for sales growth in the next 5-10 years. Also find out if their technology is proprietary or not and decide if they have any technological or innovative moat. Remember, Tesla used to also start in the luxury sedan market but they have a clear plan on going mass market. |
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Feb 26 2021, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Feb 25 2021, 04:20 PM) They're not using Bitcoin as a source of profit. If you're talking abt valuation for Tesla, then I'm sure you would have read everywhere,... talking abt valuation for Tesla is NOT the right way to go abt this, at least not by using any textbook valuation. No one would buy Tesla if everybody sticks solely to this word in the traditional way as the investment thesis for #TSLA.It is less than 10% of their cash and less than 0.2% of their valuation. In what way is Tesla a Bitcoin company? Can you show your valuation methodology? Tesla bought 1.5bil worth of Bitcoins,... this pushed it up among the giant companies which are participating in cryptocurrencies. And then Musk himself personally bought Dogecoins, which further reinforced this participation. Let me share one more thing : Mastercard subsequently 'participated' after Tesla did,... AND Microstrategy participated further by buying more. I kept using the word 'participating' and 'participated',... and participation makes them 'Bitcoin companies' - in apostrophies. This particiption and trust in the value and the future of cryptocurrencies IS THE NEW VALUATION. Since you jolted my mind, for which I thank you for,... when Tesla 'participated', they also declared they may accept payments in Bitcoins in the near future. This, I'm sure you would agree, adds to the future valuation too. |
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Feb 26 2021, 04:15 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 26 2021, 02:30 AM) If you're talking abt valuation for Tesla, then I'm sure you would have read everywhere,... talking abt valuation for Tesla is NOT the right way to go abt this, at least not by using any textbook valuation. No one would buy Tesla if everybody sticks solely to this word in the traditional way as the investment thesis for #TSLA. It seems BTC ecosystem electricity consumption is equivalent to about 10% of Japan electricity consumption, is very costly.Tesla bought 1.5bil worth of Bitcoins,... this pushed it up among the giant companies which are participating in cryptocurrencies. And then Musk himself personally bought Dogecoins, which further reinforced this participation. Let me share one more thing : Mastercard subsequently 'participated' after Tesla did,... AND Microstrategy participated further by buying more. I kept using the word 'participating' and 'participated',... and participation makes them 'Bitcoin companies' - in apostrophies. This particiption and trust in the value and the future of cryptocurrencies IS THE NEW VALUATION. Since you jolted my mind, for which I thank you for,... when Tesla 'participated', they also declared they may accept payments in Bitcoins in the near future. This, I'm sure you would agree, adds to the future valuation too. |
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Feb 27 2021, 12:17 AM
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seems like the bottom has taken place for Tesla? lets see next week
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Mar 5 2021, 07:06 PM
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Catch my conversation with kelvinlym where we talk about Tesla and the broad market situation!
YouTube video link: This post has been edited by Ziet Inv: Mar 5 2021, 07:07 PM |
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Mar 5 2021, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Mar 5 2021, 07:06 PM) Catch my conversation with kelvinlym where we talk about Tesla and the broad market situation! Maybe next time you can also give a short list of what you talked about in your video. Just a tip to attract more viewers.YouTube video link: Ziet Inv liked this post
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Mar 5 2021, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Mar 5 2021, 07:06 PM) Catch my conversation with kelvinlym where we talk about Tesla and the broad market situation! EducatingYouTube video link: |
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