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> Bought nice Digi number for RM105 but scammed!, line cannot use and seller not refunding

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post Aug 8 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(mono_demon @ Aug 8 2007, 12:44 PM)
if im not mistaken, the no. still can be use even if its terminated.. go to dg centre 2 reactivate it.. ask the seller to bear the cost. not much.. i think around 30.. remember to bring along the sim house card then settle lo..
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You are wrong. Definately no such thing call reactivate.
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post Aug 8 2007, 04:32 PM

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the seller does not want to refund the money coz she probably already used it to buy her cosmetics or some fancy dress. buyer, i suggest u just take this as an expensive lesson. next time when purchasing a number online, just give digi/celcom/maxis a call when in doubt on the validity of the number.
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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 8 2007, 01:07 PM)
You are wrong. Definately no such thing call reactivate.
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owh.. ok.. sorry then.. coz i remember my fren said that even his celcom number has been terminated, he juz bring the housing to celcom centre and they can activate the number.. mayb, celcom onli.. dunno la.. hmm.gif
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post Aug 8 2007, 09:49 PM

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Even though we've explained to her about trading and such,she couldn't understand anything,i mean NOTHING!.Guys take this as lesson.
Mod,i guess you should do your part,the seller deserve a dispute tag.

Some people really thick face!
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post Aug 8 2007, 11:02 PM

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police report should be lodge also... Both of you please go to balai and make report.
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post Aug 8 2007, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(rene @ Aug 8 2007, 06:28 AM)
now i dun see any ur so called "digi simply giv answer onli"~
Er... babana said she/he was told number not in the system already but 1 forumer was told the number is still not registered and still in the system. So isnt that a big contradiction?
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rene, pls do not twist my statement around n try to confuse ppl wif the situation here. my words nor digi's were nv contradicting. i was trying to convey the msg dat my number was purged frm digi's system (meaning its not active and no one is using it now), dats y they couldnt trace it to any registered user or when it was register when u asked me for the details. the other forumner basically said the same thing...its just the usage of words differs btwn both of us. ok, so if u dun approve of me using the word 'system', fine....i'll rephrase dat. The number lies sumwhere in Digi's REALM OF NUMBERS as an inactive line because it was purged. digi has since recycled this number n it'll be issued wif its new sim card soon. FINE? UNDERSTOOD?


have been trying to maintain my patience so long but...r u doing this on purpose to get on my nerves or wat? so forumners...rene has already made it clear dat she refuses to refund. wat should be my next course of action? pls dun suggest reporting to the balai again as i've explained it earlier - the sum is not substantial enuf n i dun haf enuf details on them.
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post Aug 8 2007, 11:19 PM

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Babana,

Go balai report is the 1st thing you should do. There's no other thing you could do anymore.

All you can do is, take all the document, proof go there, and voila, freeze her's account.

TE/Mod or Admin will do what they usually if the dispute is not settle.

And also, after report, be sure to keep on chasing those police butt and expedite the process. RM100 is not a small amount wei, for some dishwasher, that was a lot. (not insulting ok sweat.gif I'm speaking the truth)
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post Aug 9 2007, 12:21 AM

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now only 1 way to settle this if the seller still didt turn up to settle this case ,go report digi that this seller selling fake digi sim (i think go times aquare or sg wang should be better)-provide them the link at lowyat


then police report ,then let digi to kao tim ,for digi,to keep thier customer,sure they will do something,

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post Aug 9 2007, 12:47 AM

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zzzz she not refunding cos her bro also rugi many simpacks didnt work..just refund lo no need to cover up losses...customer always rite XD ?
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temptation1314, babana is tired of hearing suggestions of filing a police report. Can you respect that and back off?
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post Aug 9 2007, 01:25 AM

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one more thing..if both buyer and seller rugi..why dont refund 50% of the price?both party happy...ho liao or not?
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post Aug 9 2007, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(zero @ Aug 9 2007, 01:25 AM)
one more thing..if both buyer and seller rugi..why dont refund 50% of the price?both party happy...ho liao or not?
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i think seller have to bear the risk..that's the rule being a seller
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post Aug 9 2007, 02:08 AM

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[quote=temptation1314,Aug 8 2007, 08:58 AM]
@Rene,

Let's recall the past.

1st, Your brother sell babana the sim card on 1st of July, and he sent it on 3rd of July. Buyers Received on 5th of July and go to Digi Center to Register the sim card on 9th of July but found out that sim card already been terminated/purged(whatsoever).

2nd, Now you claim that you already checked before sending. Even babana/Littemin claim that your brother guarantee the sim card is working. When babana or Littlemin try to re-register again, they get the same answer again. The number is being purged.

already check what before sending? and where did i say that? And bout guarantee, I answer that already. And bout the answer from Digi i also answer already.

Summary from stories :
Sales date : 1/7/2007
Delivery date : 3/7/2007
Received date : 5/7/2007
Registration date : 9/7/2007

Date of the card is being purged : 30/6/2007

From here, everything is happen after the date where all the card is being purged. And your brother could also guarantee, whereby there's no effort for your brother as a seller to help their customer check. Since there's no effort on your so call "business" to provide even a single little services and you only keep know how to sell your "product", please don't mention that you had the business ethics infront of me.

And seller can hv their own biz rule etc right?

And now, you are defending your so called "business ethics" and refuse to refund where your sim card reach on babana side is already virtually DOA.

Bro doesnt know number RIP already when he send them mover.

The Only Solution to this matter :

Since you said Digi couldn't reactivate the number again, most probably, you need to do full refund to the customer already, which I doubt you would do because you had a lot of lame excuses.

You view it lame excuses, i view it explanations.

Good lucks in your own "ethics" life.

And i don't need luck to enable me to lead an ethical life.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:11 am[quote=kevinboey86,Aug 8 2007, 10:30 AM]
How come u sell something to ppl that does not work? u think logically for ur self la.....if u have stated in ur theread that "this sim card is faulty" or "this sim card might not be activated" then i understand la if the buyer buy it at a risk....now u claim ur brother don't know what he guarantee then next time don't ask him to guarantee something he is not sure of him self....if don't know = don't sell.....you can c in almost ever thread in garage sales or bulk they at least will help them claim from manufacture or wat....but u keep insisting ur innocent.....yea i agree u dont know anything but then its ur responsibility to ensure that the product works fine and the customer is satisfied wit ur service.......yea i do agree to some earlier post that pirated dvd seller will even exchange for u another movie if the 1 u buy is spoiled....
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Answer to this already. and pirated?


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:13 am[quote=gtghost,Aug 8 2007, 11:05 AM]
OMG for gods sake......I rather pay him back RM105 than to type all these explainations. Medical consultation fee also more than that already :S
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Expected it already...


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:15 am[quote=LittleMin,Aug 8 2007, 11:22 AM]
yes me too...

so wat u gonna do now?? blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

already answer before this.


Added on August 8, 2007, 11:25 am

i think post at here oso useless~

since da seller's logic is : i sell things 2 u~n when i sell i duno it cant work = not my fault....

so even our words r correct wif evidence~it cant represent anything oso...
we stil cant get our money bek... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Already answer.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:16 am[quote=bdl,Aug 8 2007, 11:34 AM]
unsure.gif ... why take so much trouble to settle ... very simple only -mah ...

-- 1. seller refund to buyer .. if the sim card doesn't work .. or ..

-- 2. seller get the sim card to DiGi centre .. activate the sim card and send back to buyer ..
-- it's the responsiblity of the seller make sure the sim card is working .. right ..?

-- not need to explain whose fault here -lah .. just 2 options to settle only -mah .. doh.gif
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Already answer to this.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:24 am[quote=LittleMin,Aug 8 2007, 11:36 AM]
his brother??
if u saw my quoted thread at front there~
den u wil see how i describe his bro...
he bro indeed got guarantee~but is guarantee tat he is a honest great seller n said that im the only one problematic buyer that keep kacau him~
i was so angry so i dont reply him anymore~
but after tat another his so called the only one problematic buyer who is babana (i thought ONLY ONE = ONE??) appear out and he is more pitiful than me coz he paid rm105 for his number...


Added on August 8, 2007, 11:40 am
both the options u mentioned are not accepted by seller~

for 1.~she said that it is not her wrong so no refund...
for 2.~she said her bro dont want pursue those terminated numbers anymore~so if i and babana want to activate~we have to go by ourselves.... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Added on August 8, 2007, 11:49 am

Does your bro confirm with digi centre that the numbers that he wil be selling can be used???maybe you think that it is unnecessary but i thought that it is seller responsible to make sure that the things that he gonna sell can be used??so even if this is digi's wrong~but your bro still partly blamed for this....n now u n ur bro dont willing to settle me n babana's problem~so.....ur bro still shouldnt be blamed?? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

well, i think u know wat my reply will b but will say it anyway. number valid til 2008 n never detached from main card before. new never use, hence din check. n did u thought of checking w digi before buy? no also.. all said with hind side. i dunno how to blame bro when he din terminate or activate the number.
And one more thing~i dont know whether u know this or not...

Actually the terminated number that im holding now is not my choice initially~I WAS FORCED 2 CHOOSE THIS NUMBER!!
Why??jz because my favourite number which is 016-5898589 EXPIRED ON 1/7/2007!!!
And ur bro only tell me tis WHEN I HAVE BANK IN TO HIM!!!
AND HE CLAIMED THAT NO REFUND~so i can only choose another number which is 016-5765769 n which is terminated also... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

forced? with gun to ur head? CAP words start to come out again... i do see seler imposing no refund policy



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post Aug 9 2007, 02:24 AM

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Rene, can you please don't screw up the quotation code? sweat.gif
It's very hard for the readers to read them.

Just remember when you quote, do not delete this part:
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[right][snapback]Any numbers here[/snapback][/right]


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post Aug 9 2007, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 8 2007, 12:44 PM)
Rene: Can you please don't screw up the quote code? It is so hard to get your post read or at least use different colours to indicate your replies. shakehead.gif
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erm.. yeah.. i just hit reply.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:29 am
QUOTE(deathbringer @ Aug 8 2007, 04:32 PM)
the seller does not want to refund the money coz she probably already used it to buy her cosmetics or some fancy dress. buyer, i suggest u just take this as an expensive lesson. next time when purchasing a number online, just give digi/celcom/maxis a call when in doubt on the validity of the number.
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fortunately i dont wear make upp or fancy fancy dress. And money paid to bro directly, not me.

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QUOTE(rene @ Aug 9 2007, 02:26 AM)
erm.. yeah.. i just hit reply.
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Now, no problem?
Your previous replies are so messed up. sweat.gif rclxub.gif
Having a tough time knowing which one is your reply, maybe you should use other colours to indicate your replies.
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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Aug 8 2007, 09:49 PM)
Even though we've explained to her about trading and such,she couldn't understand anything,i mean NOTHING!.Guys take this as lesson.
Mod,i guess you should do your part,the seller deserve a dispute tag.

Some people really thick face!
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Not couldn't understand but we have different view. If mod think i'm wrong, then tag. But if mod tag me coz of pressure from you all, well mod doesn't has to be pressured to tag.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:33 am
QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2007, 11:02 PM)
police report should be lodge also... Both of you please go to balai and make report.
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Answer already...


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:40 am
QUOTE(babana @ Aug 8 2007, 11:12 PM)
rene, pls do not twist my statement around n try to confuse ppl wif the situation here. my words nor digi's were nv contradicting. i was trying to convey the msg dat my number was purged frm digi's system (meaning its not active and no one is using it now), dats y they couldnt trace it to any registered user or when it was register when u asked me for the details. the other forumner basically said the same thing...its just the usage of words differs btwn both of us. ok, so if u dun approve of me using the word 'system', fine....i'll rephrase dat. The number lies sumwhere in Digi's REALM OF NUMBERS as an inactive line because it was purged. digi has since recycled this number n it'll be issued wif its new sim card soon. FINE? UNDERSTOOD?


have been trying to maintain my patience so long but...r u doing this on purpose to get on my nerves or wat? so forumners...rene has already made it clear dat she refuses to refund. wat should be my next course of action? pls dun suggest reporting to the balai again as i've explained it earlier - the sum is not substantial enuf n i dun haf enuf details on them.
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Erm, i just cut and paste your own words. so how am i twisting? and i didnt say YOU contradict i said DIGI contradict. understand?

what i understand from that forumer is that the number is n the system already. so i dunno how you can say i twist your word.

if explaining is getting to your nerve then i might as well just keep quiet n ignore your pm in the first place. then when u open a thread here, i also keep quiet n ignore it. so that wouldnt trigger your nerve?

So i cant explain cant i?or when i explain it must be something that is acceptable to everyone?So my mission here is not to get to your nerve?


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:44 am
QUOTE(zac1 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:21 AM)
now only 1 way to settle this if the seller still didt turn up to settle this case ,go report digi that this seller selling fake digi sim (i think go times aquare or sg wang should be better)-provide them the link at lowyat
then police report ,then let digi to kao tim ,for digi,to keep thier customer,sure they will do something,
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Erm its not fake. it was a real card but unfortunately terminated by digi before its time. talking bout providing link, then to all private seller in the buy & sell forum, be careful.... and yeah drag digi in. just unfortunate no previous buyers willing to come and give positive statements.

police report - reply already.


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:46 am
QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 9 2007, 02:24 AM)
Rene, can you please don't screw up the quotation code? sweat.gif
It's very hard for the readers to read them.

Just remember when you quote, do not delete this part:
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[right][snapback]Any numbers here[/snapback][/right]

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okie... will try...


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:47 am
QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 9 2007, 02:29 AM)
Now, no problem?
Your previous replies are so messed up. sweat.gif rclxub.gif
Having a tough time knowing which one is your reply, maybe you should use other colours to indicate your replies.
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kinda lazy to use colour.. sorry yah..

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wow... this kind of seller are really troublesome. Irresponsible. Next time you plan to do your "business" again.. please put "Buy at your own risk", "AS IS ITEM", "No Refund"........... sleep.gif"
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Aug 9 2007, 02:59 AM)
wow... this kind of seller are really troublesome. Irresponsible. Next time you plan to do your "business" again.. please put "Buy at your own risk", "AS IS ITEM", "No Refund"........... sleep.gif"
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Ppl explain to much so they can get some sense into you and you just reply "Already answered" i really got nothing to say abt you.....if u got this kind of attitude over here i really cant imagine what kind of person are you in real life.....1 day if u get cheated like this then u will know how banana feels....to banana if u don't want to report then just accept this as a lesson and don't simply trust ppl next time....

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