Suggested as wat?
Din see any solid solution that can be accepted also..
just a lot of crapings..

so where is the solution??
i dont say your bro is cheating pun~
what i want is YOUR SOLUTION ABOUT MY TERMINATED SIM CARD THAT SOLD BY YOU/YOUR BRO~

rene,got it?no one saying you or your bro cheating.
Bingo!
rene,answer to ryozoemiko?

really good at changing topic huh?
Where is ur answer to the suggested solution??

Miss Rene this is call solid solution..

Ur imaginary solution can put aside or dump into rubbish bin..

If we can prove knowlegde or intention, i think we can send u into police station dy..coz we r god..Dun talk abstract stuff here without any facts

later somebody ask you to prove that they want cheat they wan mislead they wan con then you know~    

lastly
you seems to care what ppl say here
but you dont care much the character your projecting yourself here....
@ babana, at this point, all can be done has been done
(eg: civil discussion)
you can go the legal way
or just hard-swallow it

.... cheers

if really want to follow somebody's so called solution~
i think i n babana should fork out some money to ask a bomoh or chinese saigong or whatever....    

Who accused you or your bro cheating?Your own imagination?It's just the item you sold cannot be used at all "Zero benefit".

The buyer wants solution for the sim card not accusing you or your brother cheating.What is your point?

NOBODY ASK YOU TO GIVE AN AUTOMATIC SOLUTION AGREEABLE TO US~

just please GIVE OUT AN SOLID SOLUTION~

i dont really wanna hire any bomoh or dig out your bro's brain or whatever~

OMG..
Auntie Rene, can u open ur eyes widely enuf to read everything in one post and not one line.
U r good in picking up sentence to boom ppl bek, and not replying to exact question

ok~treat it as my fault then~

so now~I HEREBY AGREE THAT RENE AND HER BRO ARE NOT CHEATING ME~
before this im mislead because they havent explain yet~

satisfy now??

WHERE IS SOLUTION??

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Added on August 12, 2007, 3:30 am

just let somebody be~i treat it as my fault~

still waiting for solid solution now~

who ask u to give automatic solution agreeable?
Juz solid solution that proves that u r willing to be partly responsible..even not, show some sincerity in apologizing...some actions! Not sitting in front of ur comp, type shitty stuff, debating etc etc..

if i want faint away~i fainted long long time ago when i see your reply~
no need wait till now which is 10 pages long already~

SOLUTION PLEASE??

AGREED..somemore dare to say long enuf in lyn.
Disgraced..ppl might think this is how lyn's business operate..

i still dont see any your so called suggested solution about what i want???

another repeat again:

what i want is YOUR SOLUTION ABOUT MY TERMINATED SIM CARD THAT SOLD BY YOU/YOUR BRO~

you trust bomoh so...???
can bomoh make my number that BUY FROM YOU(pls remember) can b used again??
or can bomoh make you/your bro refund me n babana our money??

and...
i thought bomoh is pointing to your line "Willing to refund if you can prove bro has knowledge the number has been terminated before he sell it or he has the intention to cheat."???

please remember that the solution i want is ABOUT MY TERMINATED SIM CARD THAT SOLD BY YOU/YOUR BRO~
not ABOUT YOUR BRO INTENTION TO CHEAT ME AND BABANA~

PLEASE REMEMBER~

HoHo..bomoh..yeah...damn "solid" answer
Btw, i din ask u to explain to me..jz explain to ur poor buyer can dy..Lalala  

A report (B&W) stating that the number you bought from dealer (rene) on (sales date) for RMxxx had been terminated on (termination date) and impossible to reactivate.

Simple content about facts enough. Then write a letter to tribunal and explain the whole situation.

P/S: All buyers affected shall be involved.

looks what we have in here.Malaysian is here.TS is in london a lawyer?Come talk to Malaysian.

Dont direct me to any page rene.I read everything.

No refund?nevermind.

Buyer's fault for buying an item with no TOC in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/282025.

Court case : Seller 1 buyer 0
Reason : Seller selling numbers only not neccesary working numbers.

Court Case 2 : Seller 2 buyer 0
reason : Seller's brother said on phone guanratee working on the phone with buyer.No proof

Court case 3 : Seller 2 buyer 1

Reason, Seller said only include sim card as simpack with serial number cannot fit envelope.

Seller win ......

But rene you just slapped your brother's face.Looks familiar huh?

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Just make it clear and resolve the matter. After 4 pages, it seems that Sabahan and hp seller keep on repeating the same story again and again.

Sabahan want the phone?; or
Sabahan want the phone but want hp seller to top up for repair cost?; or
Sabahan want the phone, top up for repair, memory stick and data cable?; or
Sabahan want a refund with costs of repair and postal?

And why Sabahan want to keep the sim card if its inactive already?
And why dont Sabahan just ask around in LYN on how much is the value of the card?
If its true that the card need top-up, as mentioned by the hp seller, then just flexi to up some credit and see whether it is still active or not.

And what the hp seller want in return of the sim card?
Is Sabahan holding the simcard as a "hostage" for something in return?
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Ask your brother come in and discuss.You ask buyer to seek digi.And the DIGI already stated to buyer to seek the Sim card seller.Which is your brother.

With the power of internet,bad remarks will result in no sales in the future.

rene, are you willing to refund if proof given that the number is terminated before the sales date?

Are you avoiding my question?

Again, are you willing to refund if proof given that the number is terminated before the sales date?
Just get the date of termination and sales date enough already.

y i need to prove that your bro know the number has been terminated before??
y i need to prove that he cause the number to be terminated??

I THOUGHT IM THE BUYER AND YOU ARE THE SELLER??

is YOU who need to prove your bro dont know the number has been terminated!!!
and is YOU who need to prove that is not you bro cause the number to be terminated!!!

AND....
I STILL DONT SEE ANY SOLUTION???!!

her reply is slow~just wait patiently~
dont know why reply speed already slow still want to do out useless replies...

ok~i will go to digi centre ask people there to print out the date of termination date~
thanks for your opinion...    

Buyer dont need to prove anything.You and your brother prove it that the simcard is working by posting top up screen picture.

You sell the number at date of Apr 28 2006, 12:57 PM which mean it's new,unregistred.Up to now it's more than 3 month

Be it unregistred or registered.It's not important. It's not working.If unregistered means you at fault for cheating.Unless u show and give the simpack.

If registered but old sim card.You at fault for being irresponsible.Coz never top up and check the simcard.If you check,showed the proof.If there is an expiry date,show the simpack.Show ur phone screen of the number expiry date
dont need to,she just slapped her own brother.Seller should top up to check whether the sim card is working before selling to buyer/

it's so easy just to get a black and white from digi and post up here when that number is terminated.

yes..rene....one last question.....answer it.You got a problem now....

im longer than u..suiteng..dun play play with malaysian.

i dont ever think that i will get my refund with such a unreasonable and unresponsible seller~

i just cant tahan her lansi words and bunches of lame excuses only~    

Buyer dont need to prove anything.You and your brother prove it that the simcard is working by posting top up screen picture.

You sell the number at date of Apr 28 2006, 12:57 PM which mean it's new,unregistred.Up to now it's more than 3 month

Be it unregistred or registered.It's not important. It's not working.If unregistered means you at fault for cheating.Unless u show and give the simpack.

If registered but old sim card.You at fault for being irresponsible.Coz never top up and check the simcard.If you check,showed the proof.If there is an expiry date,show the simpack.Show ur phone screen of the number expiry date
dont need to,she just slapped her own brother.Seller should top up to check whether the sim card is working before selling to buyer/