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Bought nice Digi number for RM105 but scammed!, line cannot use and seller not refunding

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rene	Aug 12 2007, 04:47 AM Return to original view \| Post #61
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 12 2007, 04:11 AM) And I've been here longer that you. Explained already? So now, QUESTION Again, are you willing to refund if proof given that the number is terminated before the sales date? And yeah you have been here longer than me and I'm not denying that. And as for your question, I gave the answer already. Already open two screens to keep up with the comments. Do i need a third one?
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 04:50 AM Return to original view \| Post #62
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(LittleMin @ Aug 12 2007, 04:12 AM) this also can be called SOLUTION?? go find your dictionary and see what SOLUTION means before answering my request~ anyway~i try to register the number~ but cant be registered cause the number had been terminated~ if can be registered then i wont ask for solution at here~ Erm... i have suggested a solution.
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 04:53 AM Return to original view \| Post #63
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 12 2007, 04:19 AM) READ Bank transaction receipt & postage slip Erm.. I have read before i said it earlier on. Point out the section to me where it cover jurisdiction to a private seller.
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 04:58 AM Return to original view \| Post #64
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:37 AM) i suggest you not to reply the seller with any explaination Just reply it with " prove that my brother has the knowledge that the simcard is terminated" and u should tell this from the begining of page 1. Rene...stop circling around....Digi already says that the simcard is activated way before..and proof is on the way. If the proof is here...at the end..u will continue with this..prove it that my brother has the knowledge Yeah i can stop circling around i said all the comments here are repetitions and I have answer to all. Yeah digi did say that and how do you activate a card when the sim card is not detached from the main card? I know digi can provide a black and white proof that the number has been activated before but can digi explain why the number has been activated before when it hasnt been? And how can the number been activated in 2005 when the number has only been acquire in 2006?? What proof to that then? Added on August 12, 2007, 4:59 am QUOTE(LittleMin @ Aug 12 2007, 04:31 AM) can the picture that i upload as my bank slip?? coz i bank in to her bro online~ Added on August 12, 2007, 4:34 am i dont nid these replies... i also know those things that u mentioned.... my main point that i asking for solution is~ WHAT SOLUTION U SUGGEST WITH THE SIM CARD THAT I BOUGHT FROM YOU WHICH IS TERMINATED ALREADY?? You can keep on repeating the solution part and i can keep on repeting my answer. Added on August 12, 2007, 5:04 am QUOTE(LittleMin @ Aug 12 2007, 04:24 AM) firstly can you tell me how we can prove first?? and WHERE IS MY SOLUTION??? You have to figure out how if you want a refund. solution - suggested already. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 05:04 AM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 05:26 AM Return to original view \| Post #65
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:27 AM) Case settled. Everything justify..Buyer dont need to say anything.His brother got caught for holding drugs..but his brother can get away saying he dont have the knowledge of it. dont have the knowledge..forget to top up is still the same for ur case... Just in case u forgot that u slapped ur own brother face..or was it ur brother slap his own face.. read this.. it posted by you..so as again...u or ur brother can tell around that seller should top up and check the selling simcard.....and why dont do so? Or your brother dun has the knowledge?Or he forget? ................................................................................................... cky6667 - Not an honest seller rene Posted on: Jun 28 2006, 09:06 PM Goosh.. a pain to read but pretty interesting. Anyway, what does Sabahan want and what does hp seller want? Just make it clear and resolve the matter. After 4 pages, it seems that Sabahan and hp seller keep on repeating the same story again and again. Sabahan want the phone?; or Sabahan want the phone but want hp seller to top up for repair cost?; or Sabahan want the phone, top up for repair, memory stick and data cable?; or Sabahan want a refund with costs of repair and postal? And why Sabahan want to keep the sim card if its inactive already? And why dont Sabahan just ask around in LYN on how much is the value of the card? If its true that the card need top-up, as mentioned by the hp seller, then just flexi to up some credit and see whether it is still active or not. And what the hp seller want in return of the sim card? Is Sabahan holding the simcard as a "hostage" for something in return? Does Sabahan want to return the phone for a refund or just keep the phone? Does hp seller willing to provide Sabahan with the data cable and the memory stick for the return of the sim card? well, you are right. knowledge is one of the element that you need to prove in a drug trafficking case. yeah so bro can get away by saying he doesnt know he was holding a drug if he doesnt know. And what's the issue about top up anyway? And what bout my comment in that thread? Added on August 12, 2007, 5:31 am QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:40 AM) eh littlemin..i know it's ur money...U very kacau..coz u keep asking the same thing....tmrow u come with Black and white and post all the proof lar..So rite now..u dun post... remember to get the proof when the simcard was terminated..used..open... Im waiting to see how this big sister defend his own brother...perhaps he will say his brother has down syndrome and she is in charge selling his unused simcard. Getting proof that the number has been terminated before the sale wouldnt change anything. Down syndrome? Is that insulting or what? Tsk tsk.. senior member saying such thing. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 05:31 AM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 05:36 AM Return to original view \| Post #66
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:43 AM) if you read again...my point stand at...it doesnt matter anymore once the buyer get the black and white when the simcard is terminated...and compare it to when the buyer get the card. but u have already stated ur defence which is...we need to prove that ur bro has the knowledge. And how to have knowledge when the two main fact have not been disputed? Number valid til 2008 and sim card not detached from the main card? Added on August 12, 2007, 5:42 am QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 12 2007, 04:28 AM) You're not making anyone's life easier here with your statement. You can simply stab someone in the chest and run away with the statement, "I have no knowledge that he would die of massive blood lost from the stab wound I've made". The stabbing. Yeah you can't say that coz either way you will get it. Death or jail. You ought to have to know that stabbing might cause grievous hurt if not death. Defence lay on the question why you stab the person in the first place? Added on August 12, 2007, 5:45 am QUOTE(xplora @ Aug 12 2007, 04:44 AM) i think this rene won't refund la. If she want to refund, then already refund earlier. Wasting so many hours to do replying rubbish or non-logic answer as seller. Even in LYP buying a hard disk, can exchange 1-1 within 1 week. Yeah call it all rubish if you want... Added on August 12, 2007, 5:50 am QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 12 2007, 04:45 AM) Same as what Malaysian said, Enter this country carrying drugs, then try to tell the officials that you dunno that it's drug you're carrying. See whether they hang you or not. BTW, I'm sleepy. Go to sleep first. Drug issue, answer already. Malaysian don't simply hang people, so yeah, i'll see. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 05:50 AM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 06:25 AM Return to original view \| Post #67
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:52 AM) you are late...read my latest post... our brains works faster than yours. forget bout the top up coz at the end..u will say..my brother dun have the knowledge.. see i can read the future. I'm not late but i'm subjected to flood control posting even if i reply fast enough. So I don't see how your brain work faster than me or vice versa. Ok forget the top up. And you are not seeing the future from the crystal ball coz i have said that already before this.. Added on August 12, 2007, 6:31 am QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 04:54 AM) i also go to sleep...coz my brother dun have the knowledge. tmrow wake up...i will be here again.. so for the meatime....rene..u slow slow read....then think how to counter back tmrow... ps. ur brother dun have the knowledge trick cannot work. come lar i ask my sister sell stuff to you..Wat u want to buy....name me any price.I will send the stuff to you... we'll see who will come back here and complain... No need to think to counter coz that is what i said and thats the truth. yeah you'll be here tomorrow and yeah the Mod will decide tomorrow. Knowledge is not a trick. And what is the challenge for ler? And should I take it up just because you ask me to? And whats the intention of you saying it? Reveal it so yeah, i can use it if i do buy and come here and complain. Added on August 12, 2007, 6:50 am QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 05:18 AM) Dun bullshitt me,gal...r u from soviet sarawak? i have a motorola 8700 ..and all those old GSM brick phone dont need to detach the small simcard from the big card.Coz it use the big card. U want to cover up for your brother? How can the number activated on 2005?U the seller..u find out urself...The sim card is with u all the time...how the buyer knows..how i know.... Digi tell us..then it will be in 2005.The card is with ur brother,ur brother use it lar..if not who use it?Ghost?When all the proof arrive..u wont be able to deny a single thing anymore.... opps..i forgot..ur brother dun have the knowledge. how old are you?ignorant lar u.... Oh bull... Yeah as if my bro have that brick phone. Or yeah, as if he'll go and find a phone that can use the big simcard and then sell the card for profit. And is the sim card seems to be used before? any scratch or mark it has been inserted? Yeah, defending is cover up. OK OK... Its a big conspiracy here among the two of us for the 160 bucks. Yeah digi is the service provider. Trust digi. You cant challenge them. Yes, must be the seller's fault. Yes must be... Yes, my brother purposely use the two cards onnly and didnt use the rest of the card since all other buyers happy with the cards. Proof or no proof, the statement from digi will only confirm the number has been activated in 2005. And yeah you can ask ghost when you see any and ask whether ghost did use activate/use the number.i'll leave that task to you. opps... where is the prove of knowledge? and any explanation why number activated in 2005 when he got the numbers in 2006? any explanation why the other number only terminated in 2007? And how old are you? Simply prejudge and accusing without single shread of proof? Just because other people are accusing us? Isnt that more ignorant? Malaysian boleh say everything eh? Added on August 12, 2007, 6:59 am QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 06:17 AM) Answer me for the below.. Dun bullshitt me,gal...r u from soviet sarawak? i have a motorola 8700 ..and all those old GSM brick phone dont need to detach the small simcard from the big card.Coz it use the big card. U want to cover up for your brother? How can the number activated on 2005?U the seller..u find out urself...The sim card is with u all the time...how the buyer knows..how i know.... Digi tell us..then it will be in 2005.The card is with ur brother,ur brother use it lar..if not who use it?Ghost?When all the proof arrive..u wont be able to deny a single thing anymore.... opps..i forgot..ur brother dun have the knowledge. how old are you?ignorant lar u.... let's see how rene can answer me. Why close your selling simcard thread?U have others numbers inside.You should continue selling it as you and your brother is not at fault.Just tell any future buyer to deal with DIGI. You close it because now u tested all the simcard and found out all the numbers are unusable?If so,then you are guilty towards the buyers. If not guilty,open back your selling thread and sell it.If you close it,it means all the numbers arent usable from the beginning. Either way,you have no way to run.Close or Open...Dead end Erm.. If you want i can let you sell the numbers. And why close? If you really read all already you know why. Knowledge knowledge. Yeah like i said before to the buyers, all numbers terminated already and found out about this after the 2 incidents with the 2 buyers. So its finding out after the facts. And guilty of what? not knowing the 2 numbers are terminated and not checking the numbers before selling? All have been replied to. Not running anyway. Wanna run away for what? wanna run away no need to reply to anything. Let you all accuse away. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 06:59 AM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 08:22 AM Return to original view \| Post #68
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(pgsingerboy @ Aug 12 2007, 07:54 AM) What if your brother got cheated by the person he got the simcard from and digi is correct about the sim card being activated in 2005. What if Malaysian is right about the brickphone where they use the simcard without detaching from the main card itself? Who is the person who sold to your brother? There are too many unknowns. Somebody has got to pay for this mistake. But it is sure as hell not the two girls that bought from you. They should not pay for this mistake. By right your brother should pursue the matter whether he likes it or not and if all fails, your brother should pay for this mistake. Because of you and your passive brother, you affected two other innocent people in the lowyat community. But we will wait and see the report from digi through little min. My bro also say he;s unlucky for holding bunch of useless numberss when he found out digi terminated those numbers prematurely. I don't see why bro has to pay for digi's mistake. My bro is not pursuing against digi.Report from digi wouldnt say something that we don't know already. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 08:24 AM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 09:29 AM Return to original view \| Post #69
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(firestater @ Aug 12 2007, 09:25 AM) psycho people.........simple thing also cannot understand.... it's always the seller responsibility to check either their goods are Ok or not. Not just by looking from the physical appearance. And i'm sure that ur bro also a buyer, either direct from DG or ur own supplier.. then u should check with them.... First word already call people psycho. Reason why didnt check has been explained. Bro is letting go. Blame his bad luck for buying those unsold numbers.
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 04:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #70
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(firestater @ Aug 12 2007, 09:51 AM) and he also need to blame his luck for losing another rm105 (banana) + littleman amount....by refunding them.... that we call responsibility Why stop selling , u can still make money what, just assume that u didnt notice that, nobody can prove that u/ur bro aware of it....... easy money lorrrr Oh he is blaming his bad luck for selling those numbers but I said already that I will be refunding the money if proven he sold it with knowledge the numbers has been terminated or with intention to cheat. Stop selling coz he did eventually check and he know and I know the numners has been terminated. If there is intention to cheat there will be trail of evidence for you all to find, like in every other case. But is there any in this one? You can't, the buyers can't and the rest of the commentors can't coz there is no evidence whatsoever to prove it. Added on August 12, 2007, 4:48 pm QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 12 2007, 10:47 AM) I'm just curious but the expiry date on the card i believe is for the SIM card sellers not the owners of the number. what are you trying to say? Added on August 12, 2007, 4:50 pm QUOTE(nshady @ Aug 12 2007, 01:41 PM) Well , I only know that a seller holds the responsibility over items SOLD , No matter it's the distributors problem or what....seller should settle it for the buyer. If you're not looking to help to settle the problem....easy...quit selling. So you are saying seller always wrong and there is no exception to this? I disagree. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 04:50 PM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 05:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #71
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(linkinparking @ Aug 12 2007, 02:12 PM) rene..that card is already useless when its at your brothers hand..atleast bear some responsibilities..your are saying things like after selling the product not� my problem already..if you are doing business and u have such policies..who wana do future business with you? its almost like a scam even if your brother dont meant it to be like that. why dont both of u share the kerugian 50-50? this is indeed a very unfortunate event I already suggested a solution but not accepted. Added on August 12, 2007, 5:27 pm QUOTE(idiotidiot @ Aug 12 2007, 02:58 PM) Rene, instead of babbling on and on about answer already, solution given, which makes everyone of us boiling mad with your ignorant attitude, why dont you and ur bro get down to the bottom of this matter? 1st of all, why dont both of you find out where you guys obtained the purged numbers before selling it here? is it still sealed in a pack? absolutely not tampered with? 2nd, find some of your buyers u dealt before by selling them numbers from the batch of ur digi numbers. Find them and ask them give testimonials here. It is much more convincing than keeping your stand on no refund cause nothing concerns you. 3rd, i'd advice your bro not to drop this issue of inactive cards and sign off with unlucky. FYI the buyers that fork out the money is more unlucky than you are. Consult digi. Tell them your predicament. Ask them why and when the numbers are purged. And ask them why the heck the "new" number packs are still circulating the market when it is already been used and purged. Actions are more than welcome than stubborn-headedness.. Think about it Babbling again? Why? Coz it ran up to 16 pages? Boiling mad? Really? And I don't with all the unecessary insult and accusastion? 1st - got it from shop. yes, new in sealed pack. not tampered. 2nd - They have given their testimonial in the original selling thread. I see no point dragging them here if they are unwilling to come voluntarily. 3rd- He's just letting it go and he's just that kinda person. Not determine to pursue. He Didint get all the sim cards free too. Digi has given the answer to both babana and littlemin. Added on August 12, 2007, 5:31 pm QUOTE(blinky @ Aug 12 2007, 03:04 PM) Guys, if you all have any details (address, phone number, IC number etc.) of this seller Rene please PM me. I'll try to get your money back. Don't ask me how, I will do it if there's sufficient info about her. Yeah, I am very interested to know. Phone number already has in some selling thread. So can you give me your name and IC number too. We can exchange info. Always welcome. What started here stay here. I'm not physically in Malaysia. Wanna mess with me, wait til i go back to Malaysia and mess with me. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 05:34 PM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 05:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #72
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(xplora @ Aug 12 2007, 03:38 PM) You must be joking! You admit that your brother is holding bunch of useless numbers from DiGi. That is your problem because you BOUGHT USELESS number from DIGI. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to get back the sim FROM YOUR BUYER AND IT IS STILL UNDER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to refund them. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SHOULD CONTACT THE DISTRIBUTOR, reseller OR DIGI. Buyer have NO RESPONSIBILITY TO SHARE your problem or loss from what you sell. Same thing like you buy something online, you buy waterset mobile phone from LYN but not working when received, so the buyer must pay for all the problems? In this situation, the buyer should only pay for the return postage to seller and seller will do the exchange and then send them the new working set. This is how we do business! Same thing like when people do bulking here, they need to refund the money to the buyer if the bulk failed or the item sent to them if the requirements does not match from what they are selling. Very nice excuses and stupid solutions that you give to the buyer, very nice seller. I hope Malaysia will have more sellers like you, and i imagine what happend to Malaysia. Er.. not joking. Yeah he's holding a bunch of useless numbers which he found out after the sale. Yeah his problem coz he bought the numbers from digi. He's a buyer as well. And guess what? He's not pursuing against digi. Er... the handphone example, has been given before. And i never hope more malaysian to be so rude and sarcastic.
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 05:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #73
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 12 2007, 04:52 PM) Look, if say a buyer goes to a shop and buys a digi sim pack, and when he brings it home, it is found that the number has been purged although but he has the assurance of the shop that the number is in good working order or is usable, but it turns out it is not, so what is the logical thing that the shop should do? Refund to the customer and claim from digi that the number is void and terminated. am i not right about this? Look, shop are distributors. my bro private seller. distributor has agreement wit provider. bro doesnt.
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 06:01 PM Return to original view \| Post #74
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 05:05 PM) so it means your brother is guilty but dun have the knowledge... well said...who can prove that ur brother has the knowledge...only himself know tat.. u as his sister unable to prove tat..and u want us to prove tat? Your brother can just lie and tell dun have the knowledge...Why dont you prove that your brother has or dun has the knowledge as he is your brother? there is no intention to cheat...But guilty as a irresponsible seller and sister..Coz now only u found out the simpack is useless just like ur brother?after the simpack was sold and had problem?Therefore you close the thread?So it means you and your brother is the irresponsible seller for not checking the simpack at first place. Why try to be responsible only after problem arise?Coz your brother dun has the knowledge?I know you are not a gal... You as her sister...got pregnant...U do abortion and kill the baby...Then u say u dun have the knowledge that u have sex before? Sister help sell item and defend...Why dont ask father mother come in and talk as well? Just like your brother sell drugs....get caught...and ur brother tell the police "I dun have the knowledge" You think police will buy that story? Of course u as his sister will defend ur own brother whether he killed,rape,sell drugs or wrong...etc... Come now..i be the seller..tell me wat you want...Tell me a price..i deliver it to you...Bank in the money for me...let's see what happen then.. Oh so actually you dunno how to read... Wanna talk about prove, then take this as a court case. Do you have to made out your case against my bro before you can claim? And how do you made out a case? By evidence. Thats how you mad eout your case and prove it. Not just making baseless accusation and baseless allegations. Made out the case. Can't do it then don't just talk and talk. Yeah right. He just suddenly woke up one down after all those successful sale and said to himself, hey... i wanna cheat two people and get complaint for. And the knowledge part, seriously you do know how to read and have read everything right? Coz all has been said before so just go and read it or people will say yet again im babling and talk rubbish. Eh, want to be responsible also kena also? Then I might as well just keep quiet and just say no no no refund all the way. Ooo.. yah.. you know me... you met me before and know i'm not a girl or you are just making an ass out of yourself? Oh ya..you a MAN eh? Sex has everything gotta do with it.. Memang Malaysian boleh.... Sampai perkara sex bpun dibawa masuk. And the druggie part, you can go and ask police. If you are saying police is not investigating before putting up a paper to the prosecutor, then said it to the policeman's face. Buat malu saje. nama malaysian but say without knowing what you are saying. Malaysian simply shoot only? masuk hole can already is it? So your mom and pop teach you how to speak like how you speak is it? Wanna challenge me? can. Be my guest. Take your number and join the q. wait til I go back to malaysia and challenge me face to face. Be a real Malaysian man, man. Added on August 12, 2007, 6:02 pm QUOTE(firestater @ Aug 12 2007, 05:37 PM) just wanna ask u Rene....if u in Banana shoes......and what will u do? (Banana = Seller (that didn't check their item 100% good) & ( Rene = Buyer (that received a Dead On Arrival item)...... AND WHAT WILL U DO? we assumed that Hard Fking Sweat Blood Cash, with this RM105, it maybe 15 cent for somebody and it maybe RM105 k for someone......... Read previous post and you will find the answer coz the same answer has been asked before and the money part, babana said that to me through pm and i have replied to it as well. Added on August 12, 2007, 6:05 pm QUOTE(badang_1785 @ Aug 12 2007, 05:43 PM) what is the price of the simcard that ur brother buy and sell to thread starter? Has it gotta do with anything? Added on August 12, 2007, 6:11 pm QUOTE(firestater @ Aug 12 2007, 05:49 PM) It's due the seller ethic like you that make malaysian like this...... Is there anybody that stop ur brother from pursuing DG.... No is it......and that not nobody problem...... maybe ur brother already cover his cost by selling starter pack that he think maybe can work.....just becoz the expire date is 2008 and the sim still intact with sim housing card.....i assumed that he dunno or can i also assumed that maybe he know it before but no body can prove it ....... Added on August 12, 2007, 5:51 pmHeyyyyy Rene please answer my Q Post #308..... Its not the point whether someone stop him or no. Its like did anyone stop you from doing something you do not wish to do? Its just a personal act, not wanting to pursue. In a normal circumstances, wouldnt you assume that a sim card with expiry date in 2008 and undetached a good working card? If can't prove it then how to made out a case? Hey boy, take some time and read and find the answer yourself. This post has been edited by rene**: Aug 12 2007, 06:11 PM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 06:25 PM Return to original view \| Post #75
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Notoriez @ Aug 12 2007, 06:12 PM) Rene, why can't you just refund the money to the buyer?? Seller like you should be not allowed to sell in any online trading business if you can't keep true to your words.. You are trying to defend your brother..It's a honorable thing to do but your brother is the one who OBVIOUSLY GUILTY here..just return the money to the buyers and get back the sim card then ask your bro to go back to Digi to verify why the simcard is unable to use.. If you unable to refund the money to the buyers, im hoping one day you and your 'innocent' little bro will encounter the same problem and we will just LAUGH at your predicament..IT'S KARMA! As i said before, up to the other party whether they wanna trade with me in the future. If they see this as a yardstick to measure and not my past clean record, then there is nothing i can do about it. Concept innocent until proven guilty still applies right? Yeah we do believe in karma and guess what? you laugh at us someone someone will be laughing at you in return. thats how it work right? Added on August 12, 2007, 6:28 pm QUOTE(Malaysian @ Aug 12 2007, 06:17 PM) your brother is guilty until proven innocent. we are waiting for the black and white from digi when is the simpack being terminated and compare with your sales date with the proof...we will see how u can get away with your reason "My brother dont has the knowledge and u must prove it" for now,anyone can just talk including you. when u r back here..PM me and i will meet you face to face then. You really dunno how to read then.. Whatever statement the buyers got from digi wouldnt say what we dunno already. yeah i'll be back probably by july or august next year. P.M. me then or just text me. This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 06:28 PM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 07:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #76
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(babana @ Aug 12 2007, 06:34 PM) Sorry for misspelling ur nick, kingmaker_20 Guys guys...pls dun flame here. I can feel the agitation among fellow forumners on me n littlemin's plight...but no use igniting fire in this topic as the aim is to mediate, not ignite. Anyway, rene's solution = NOT WILLING TO REFUND FOR FAULTY ITEM She has made this clearly edi lots of times. No matter wat anyone says, it will still be the same for her. So next time if anyone wants to buy any item frm dis low level being...jus a word of caution...trade AT YOUR OWN RISK. U know y this thread has so many replies n hits, rene? Its the way u're handling this problem, gal. Everyone's annoyed at ur behaviour n replies. You've got no solutions n yea...as a forumner said earlier...u did not even tried to solve it by suggesting if we split the losses 50 - 50 or ANY SINGLE SOLUTION. Suggesting to go to bomoh 2 activate the number? Is dat ur solution? Oooohh...wat a "great" idea I have a few last words - This type of seller is really a DISGRACE to lyn n all online traders. Bet dat she's gonna reply to this saying...wateva...dats ur perception, already replied, bla bla bla Why so many comments? easy. too many people wanna make comments including the unnecessary one. And yeah I can refund. Build a case against my bro, I build my bro'd defence, and let the mod/staff decide. simple as that. have you done so? Or has any of the commentors done so? How many comments out there are repetitions and accusations? And i'm not annoyed by the uneccesary comments? Or people out there will just say, hey you deserve it coz you r the seller and seller MUST be responsible, no exception whatsoever? Bomoh suggestion given by littlemin. Go read again. And its not for activation of numner but for finding out whether bro has knowledge of the termination before he sell. So go and tell littlemin that his idea is a 'great' idea instead. Disgrace for what exactly? Yeah bet away and what are you wager? Added on August 12, 2007, 7:15 pm QUOTE(firestater @ Aug 12 2007, 06:35 PM) Ok before selling it everybody will assumed it should work fine (with the physical look and refering to the expired date) But now after u sold it to Banana and it DOA cant be use even for 1 second......... by now i think u already realize it.... then it ur responsible to do something about this.... How bout we gather somewhere or better infront of the attorney and let discuss about it..... Jst need one sentence from Banana and Littleman...." we bought this stuff from her/him but can use it " and let u do the explanation , but please dont answer "I already answered it in Lowyat.net" I think u should bring ur Elders or ur parents as it to hard to explain to brat nowdays...... Whether it can be use whatsoever seconds is irrelevant. What relevant is will you assume the card is in good working condition when it says expired in 2008 and undetached? Did babana and littlemin assume that it in good working condition when they got it? Same answer. Yes at my bro's part and yes at their part. So where is the, like u alleged, knowledge in my bro's part that the card has been terminated when he sold it? I said I'll be responsible and give refund if the buyers can prove the knowledge. What different does it make when all has been said here and meeting somewhere to discuss it? As for explanations, go read. Someone claimed there's gazzilions of it. So read up. And boy, how old are you? Not matured enough so need to bring in parents and elderly? Things like this need to involve parents? This post has been edited by rene: Aug 12 2007, 07:15 PM
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rene	Aug 12 2007, 09:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #77
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(chitchat @ Aug 12 2007, 07:55 PM) babana and littlemin i would suggest u open a thread at the public section to let everyone aware of rene irresponsible selling to prevent any more victim. Since the mod are unwilling to give her a DISPUTE TAG to aware others so i think it would be nice if u guys could do that. Let spread the news and let everyone judge her. Bring the issue out to public doing at this section so call "Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner" is useless. I would like see whether the new thread at the public section will be taken down by mod or not. Since i believe they have no reason to do so, coz it was a thread to gather opinion (buyer dont put accusation, just let other forumer read and judge rene themself) also a thread to aware all others to prevent further victim. babana & littlemin: i would have open that thread myself but since i am not the victim so i think is more appropriate if one of u all do so. Yeah thanks for helping to 'promote' me. You have done a great job.
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rene	Aug 13 2007, 03:23 AM Return to original view \| Post #79
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(LeonTan @ Aug 13 2007, 03:15 AM) Em... This thread still active... U see, my fren.... Example, U bought a new phone(cheap cheap phone rm200) from a shop and when u go back home, u found it the phone cant switch on.... What should u do...? My frens even sell reload card but many reload cards cant use so he need to refund to his customer... This is business, u cant expected ur business to be always success..... I hope before u sell ur stuff make sure it works.... Good luck... All these has been said before and all really said with hind sight. not pin pointing at you personally but everytime you repeat, I repeat and when I repeat an answer i'm being called a bs-ter bal bla bla etc.
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rene	Aug 13 2007, 03:34 AM Return to original view \| Post #80
New Member Junior Member 49 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Selangor/Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(LeonTan @ Aug 13 2007, 03:32 AM) Em... Then we better use back sim card's example story... U bought a sim card from a shop found that it cant use like ur case... U say can refund o not....? Of course even thought cant replace they also change another sim pack la... Erm..same example given already also...
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