Why are you asking for prove?You and your brother DIDN'T CON!!UNDERSTAND THIS LINE!

You sold an item to the buyer which is new and should be functioning but IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING AND THE BUYER ALREADY CALLED THE SERVICE PROVIDER BUT THE NUMBER CAN'T BE ACTIVATE ANYMORE!The buyer bought the card to use it but COULDN'T BE USE!YOU LOOSE NOTHING! BUT THE BUYER LOOSE HIS RM100+.
Solution;
YOU as a seller who sold an item to the buyer- You should call digi and make the sold sim functioning  or replace the sim with another sim which carry the same value of RM100+,else refund the buyer and settle the problem yourself with digi or accept that your loose is with digi not the innocent buyer.

Remember YOU OR YOU BRO DIDN'T CON SO THERE'S NO PROVE TO SHOW,ONLY PROVE NOW IS THE SIM CAN'T BE ACTIVATED,the buyer can send back the sim to you so that you can make sure the sim really can't be use and he's not trying to con you.That's the prove!

Sorry for the caps,just want you to look at the line and understand.

do u really understand all of our comment and suggestion to you.. and what resolution have you come to settle this.. or u just like the thick face..

Why are you asking for prove?You and your brother DIDN'T CON!!UNDERSTAND THIS LINE!

You sold an item to the buyer which is new and should be functioning but IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING AND THE BUYER ALREADY CALLED THE SERVICE PROVIDER BUT THE NUMBER CAN'T BE ACTIVATE ANYMORE!The buyer bought the card to use it but COULDN'T BE USE!YOU LOOSE NOTHING! BUT THE BUYER LOOSE HIS RM100+.
Solution;
YOU as a seller who sold an item to the buyer- You should call digi and make the sold sim functioning  or replace the sim with another sim which carry the same value of RM100+,else refund the buyer and settle the problem yourself with digi or accept that your loose is with digi not the innocent buyer.

Remember YOU OR YOU BRO DIDN'T CON SO THERE'S NO PROVE TO SHOW,ONLY PROVE NOW IS THE SIM CAN'T BE ACTIVATED,the buyer can send back the sim to you so that you can make sure the sim really can't be use and he's not trying to con you.That's the prove!

Sorry for the caps,just want you to look at the line and understand.

Thread starter,
Pls edit you thread title with "Bought nice Digi number for RM105 but cannot be activated". This is to make sure the seller don't misunderstood the case.

and who is responsible to sell this "sim card that being terminated prior to its expiry date when the number has not been activated"

You were accused because you don't have an intend to solve this issue.

I'm repeating,You don't understand.

If the sum is little maybe the buyer can accept but he bought the item @RM100+.You are the one sold the sim card to him,not digi and he already tried himself to settle the sim with digi without dragging you into dispute but the sim doesn't work.

Another example,

You bought a sim card from digi outlet but when you try to activate it,it couldn't be activated and the number had been purged,so what will you do?If you bring the sim back to the outlet owner,he should or i will say "He will" try to activate the number with any method but if it's still doesn't work,the outlet owner will replace another number or refund your money if you can prove the item is totally un-usable.

do u understand what ur saying... and whose fault it is that did not know that the item his selling is being terminated?
buyer?  

Firstly, I must say that you are biased towards the buyer. I'm trying to be biased to neither, so in your view I'm seemingly biased towards the seller.

I'll explain the "solid case" that you didn't understand the first time around. Simply put, the buyers need to put themselves in a position where rene cannot defend her actions, because to do so would defy common sense and logic. This is done by gathering the necessary facts and presenting them. Does the seller's dispute tag status affect the buyers' ability to do that? If it doesn't, then you agree with me that a dispute tag need not be given at any time in the week that has passed.

On rene's side, I'm giving her time to evaluate what's been put forth and to realize that her trading ethics are dodgy. I believe that giving her a dispute tag pressures her into making a decision against her mindset. Changing her mindset is the outcome I hope for, i.e. a "everyone walks out a winner" outcome. So what if it takes more than a day? I'll give her a week to think about it (which is the prescribed time in the dispute tag FAQ that's currently being drafted). No rush man.. take a chill pill

The week's almost up by the way, and I'll look at both sides of the story tomorrow.

Lastly, there is no rule that states "no selling for another". You don't have to trust me on this - just demonstrate it to yourself by finding the page that says that.

you answer, but still, u dont understand what all of us have said to u.. the simple thing you still not understand..

What example?You never want to accept the fact!That's all.

err...
rene.....
if those post you have nothing other then "answered already"
please do ignored them,
no need to reply...

my take on this case
the problem is between the buyer and the seller
this case it rene with babana

where as digi is just the supplier

the thing is
this is not a complain asking you(rene) to do something like...
activating roam service, or even activating the number

what now babana have is not a reduced usability/service
what he has now is Zero usability/service product

If you(rene) is certain that the problem is with digi
then it is up to you to solve it
because you are bond to business transaction with digi
like how babana is bond to you
but not babana with digi, since the money is not with Digi
it is with you

if situation remains now
you profited "unethically"(be clear here, it is not wrong, just unethical)
babana suffer losses
Digi profit as usual

The norm solution
means you did not profit, and did not suffer loss
babana also suffer no loss
Digi is then responsible for the whole fiasco

example:
you bought a SE S500i phone and there is a problem with the keypad
SE told you the problem is during the pigmentation
and they say they dunno why is like that
all the say is to ask you to go settle with their China plant to get the keypad fixed.

Would you accept this explanation?

better somebody open a thread in kopitiam, post this thread link .. can get more opinion..

if she ever understand that ..

hello~whoever will think of to ask the expiry date when buying sim card???
wtf...i thought seller should be selling NEW N NOT EXPIRED sim card???
summore ur bro so lansi (n u also)~i dont dare to think what is the consequence after i asking this question...    
(u can say im swearing or whatever again~but it is obvious that what i say is true)

yaya~u r right...whether i was forced onot is not the point~
the point is NOW YOU DONT WANNA TO SETTLE OUR PROBLEM AND KEEP TURNING BY A BUNCHES OF EXCUSES...

about the labeling~just say as u like it~i really lazy to reply such lame questions...

Aih, no use changing any title or anything to this type of seller...the reason y i put dat title wasnt to mislead ppl, coz i really felt cheated by her actions. I had a runaround with Digi for 1 mth...going to their service centres few times, emailing them, calling their helpline...all to find out dat my number kenot be used after dat. Didnt even really brought this up wif her for wasting my time, effort n money. I really went thru all the procedures...like calling her up 1st...pm-ing her...trying to register it into her dimunitive brain dat my sim KENOT be used so i wanted a refund. And she gave a gazillion reasons to me, evident in her replies in this forum.

Imagine a buyer in my shoes - obviously he or she would really feel cheated ain't it? The sentiments of all fellow forumners echo my stand and i thank u guys for your support. Thanks oso kingfisher_20 for ur methods to resolve the prob n for laying the facts out clear to her.

Anyway, fact to everyone here is dat seller just refuses to assume responsibility. As for me, i am extremely busy right at this point of time as my project will be rapping up in 2 wks. Will probably try to bug Digi again for something out of it. Me n littlemin must be among the most sueh buyers in lyn forum to meet a seller like dis.

My total damages = simcard (RM105) + petrol, phone calls, effort n time (priceless)  

Yes rene...u n ur bro are all innocent for all dat matters...really innocentttttttttt
More of like u guys dun give a crap on wat ur buyers have to endure.

i only think that somebody can become a debater~
this somebody is very very very suit to this job...    

hello...where is your solution??
i cant see it leh~~

others ur bunches of words i take them as rubbish so sorry i dont wanna reply~

Yes what is your solution pray tell? what are you going to do to help this people, since they bought from you. Please make it clear here again and not I have answered already. Your solution cannot be you or your brother do nothing.

You mean kingmaker_20?

I can understand how you feel but eventho,we've already tried to explain the real situation many times by many forumers to her but she couldn't understand or she's the type who can't accept the fact.I don't know what else we can do to solve this dispute.Now it's up to moderator i guess.
Btw,rene,what solution did you offered them?

rene n her bro wants to play at this game then it is easy. When either rene or her bro get cheated just remember that we all be here smiling from cheek to cheek.

LOL..really a bunch of nonsense from a nonsense seller..
Salute with ur skill in giving excuses..
U r also champion wat..champion in debating a topic without facts and honesty..   "saluteee"

hohoho~bro ryo you speak out what in my mind~    

i dont dare to say out pun~scare somebody said im swearing king again~    
im here not to get any praising nor to see a bunches of excuses...
so i better be quiet...shhhh....    

yayayayayayaya~just take it that my swearing is rubbish~you r right in anyway any angle any point...ok???

so where is the solution??
i dont say your bro is cheating pun~
what i want is YOUR SOLUTION ABOUT MY TERMINATED SIM CARD THAT SOLD BY YOU/YOUR BRO~

so i dont think i need to prove what the so called "proving ur bro has intention to cheat"~

so how??any solution about what i want??

HoHoho...
Then how u prove and show us evidence that ur bro dun have intention to cheat or dont have knowledge bout the number has been terminated?
Show us solid evidence so that u no need refund..maybe take out ur bro's brain and refresh till few weeks ago and show us digitally "i dunno the number has been terminated, i am genuine seller,i am selling good stuff"

Can u?

TOTALLY AGREE!!!

i really want to faint when i see the so called SOLUTION...