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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Aug 6 2020, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(hammuheado @ Aug 6 2020, 06:47 PM)
Is this FDP box?
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Supposedly but this picture was taken by some reporter and posted at Google Drive?
Don't see any yellow stripe cable?
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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 6 2020, 09:30 PM)
Hi everyone! I'm new to lowyat.net and I have been following tis thread for awhile. Today I went to Wisma TNB to do name changing and I ask the TNB personnel on Allo. She told me that TNB have appoint Maxis as an agent and ask me to contact them.
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I contact 1 of the Allo agent and it seems Allo is delaying it rollout as Tmn Kledang Sentosa will only enjoy the fiber on Q4.
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Their official launch is supposed to be 1st quarter 2021 alongside Penang, Johor and Kedah according to the news. But since infra already up maybe they're unofficially taking customers first to earn some revenues and expand further?

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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 7 2020, 03:37 PM)
Thanks for the news, Although I have doubt that TNB will expand to those area as the news didn't explicitly mention TNB but by using the Umbrella term HSBB (which could
meant either Unifi or TNB). But their Website Tender Notice do mention on Fiber Infra in Sg Rapat (Fiber Hut?) which located right around Botani And Ampang Area. So all hope is not lost?  sweat.gif

I know Candy12 mention that TNB will not overlap TM Unifi location, But from my perspective it's weird that TNB does not utilize their competitive pricing as their advantage,
Unless there's some underhand table agreement that's not Visible to us Consumer.
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If TM continues to expand its HSBB coverage sparsely by just placing minimal ports and to reserve their foothold in these areas, TNB will eventually will blocked from expanding to potential key areas where demand really exists.

My suggestion is that TNB Allo should go head on and expand directly into rich existing community areas to shake TM up. Go right into Ipoh city such as Jalan Pasir Putih/Tebing Tinggi/Jalan Bendahara where TM is still slowly expanding to serve businesses there and target new/old gated community bangalow/Semi-D home gardens around Pasir Putih off Tiger Lane(off Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah) all the way to Ipoh Gardens and Bercham.

If they don't do that, TM is already taking the dirty moves to prevent TNB from entering popular areas where real demand exists and force them to enter leftover unwanted areas where people don't bother getting home fibre internet.

Healthy competition can only exists when there are more than 2 fixed line operators in an area with different infrastructure.If there's only 1 FTTH fixed provider in your area/building, the wholesale company will likely favor their own ISP(Unifi) and force other ISPs to eat the leftovers with their unfair wholesale port pricing structure.

For TM, it is already too late for them now to play dirty and start dominating areas where you once neglected for so many years. Even if you were to start providing new ports for the waiting lists, people will NOT subscribe to your packages anymore because of it's overpriced plans.

The reference price now offered by Allo CBB/Time Home Fibre for symmetrical 100M is RM99/mth.

Even if you managed to pull your lines earlier than TNB Allo to those who were on the Unifi waiting list for years unable to subscribe to it, will they subscribe once they find out that CBB/Time Home Fibre pricing is so much cheaper?

I'm currently on Maxis Home Fibre paying RM99/mth for symmetrical 30M for the same price other people are getting 3X more the speed I'm getting at 100Mbps. The competing ISPs other than Unifi on TM HSBB network cannot do anything because of the wholesale port pricing TM imposes on them despite being a monopoly player in Malaysia.

Why smaller fibre networks such as TNB Allo and Time Fibre can offer cheaper wholesale ports but TM can't?
Not only that, their customer installations continue to cut costs and removing essential parts that was supposed to be provided to the customer such as wall sockets and proper fusion splicing for their drop fibres.
Also they're now starting to supply cheap unknown brand routers such as AZ-Tech to recent installations but forcing them to sign 2 years contract with remaining months penalty if the customer wants early termination.

Do you think existing and future customers want to tolerate this nonsense scam like practices?

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 7 2020, 04:30 PM)
πŸ˜–πŸ˜£πŸ˜«πŸ˜’

If like that, I should find a backup plan to spend this no Internet period😭
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While waiting, try not to commit with plans which require long term contracts. Always try to find one with no contract such as Maxis WiFi Go, DiGi Infinite and Unifi Air SIM only plans.

Just a few more months worth waiting.
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 8 2020, 01:53 AM)
Seriously now TM provide aztech router instead of Dlink or Tplink? I know that aztech is a shitty router and modem for a long time, they cause a lot of problem like lag or sudden disconnect. So now TM has become more and more cheap, what bad move they are going now. ranting.gif
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The Aztech TM providing is some OEM China unknown model with A-Z Tech branding, not the Singapore one and the other one is also another cheap unkown brand named Netis.

They no more providing those known brands such as TP-Link or DLink.

On top of that no more proper installation such as fixed wall socket(FWS) in their standard installation which reduces the value they're giving but still want to impose 2 years FULL remaining months contract termination policy.

Smart conscious consumers will know they're being short changed and cheated, they won't bother signing up with them.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 02:08 PM)
Yup, they are installing the modem and router now πŸ˜‚
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Can't wait to see how did your installation went. Can post the picture of your fibre modem(ONT), router given and how the installation looked like at your place?

Got give wall socket box?

Did you opt for standard installation or extra customized install from installer?

Can I use some of your pictures to post up at the front page as referencing? Thanks.
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I'll do a short review of the photos you posted later when I have the time.

Thanks for the pics.

Also can you do more speedtests on different servers across the world?

Select:

1)Singapore: Newmedia Express

2)HK: HGC (Hutchison Global Communications Ltd)

3)HK: China Mobile

4)Guangzhou: China Mobile

5)Shenzhen: China Mobile

6)Tokyo: OPEN PROJECT 20G

7)Tsukuba: SoftEther Corporation

8)Los Angeles: FDC Servers

9)Los Angeles: Frontier

10)GoSport: Iomart (UK major submarine landing site)

11)Amsterdam: Serverius Connectivity

12)Frankfurt: Leaseweb

13)Zurich: Sunrise Communication AG

14)Winterthur: Init7

15)Beijing: Beijing Broadband Network

Besides speed, it is also very important to take note of average ping times.

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Please refer to front page as I've updated all upstream and IPV4 peering partners for Allo Technology S/B (AS45410)

The list will give you an idea which networks around the world will give you optimal routing.

Allo Technology has peering and good partnership with Newmedia Express SG, Hutchison Global Communications(HK) and China Mobile Malaysia.

So when selecting test servers for speedtests you can use servers hosted by them to check how good your international connections are.

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User is probably on symmetrical 100M/100M plan which costs only RM99/mth.

He's getting 105M Down and 150M Up in excess to what he subscribed. So this prove that TNB Allo's network has no BUFFERFLOAT restriction where the ONT's speed profile is capped. The user's account restricts the speed the user is getting so very fair approach for competing ISPs using Allo Network.

Only issue noticed is the high ping rate for local server test which is 21ms. Can still be improved or connection not optimized yet.

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The router provided is a TP-Link Archer A6 and the mini fibre modem(ONT) supplied is a Huawei EchoLife HG8310M which uses APC green colored connector as opposed to TM's blue colored PC connector.

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Standard installation also comes with a Fibre Wall Socket(FWS)

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 08:16 PM)
actually I hv facing a problem, when use lan
Cable to test the speed, it only show me 30-50mbps ... dun know why πŸ˜‚
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There are many reasons that could affect your speed test results on your computer.

Before that can you briefly tell how your setup is like?

Computer type: Desktop/Notebook
CPU model: AMD/Intel
RAM capacity:
Browser:
Network adapter profile configuration
DNS servers?

Did you disable IPv6 on your network adapter?
Try disabling Ipv6

Try updating your browser to the latest clear all cache/history/temp files.
Check your network adapter settings - Is it 1000Mbps Full duplex?
Go under network adapter properties->Disable Internet Protocol Version 6(TCP/IPv6) , Disable QoS Packet Scheduler by unchecking the box to the left. Then click ok.

Always shut all background apps properly before running your speed test.
Same goes for your phone, close all background apps and only leave your speedtest app running.




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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 8 2020, 09:01 PM)
Perhaps QOS Setting in the router abit messed up? hmm.gif
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His mobile speedtest results seem fine. More like the PC's operating system not optimized.

Have to see his setup first.

Jasilu90,
Can you try doing a speedtest to Newmedia Express (Singapore) using your mobile phone? Interested to know what are the pings and speed like.

Try doing it during peak hours and to ensure optimum speed, close all background apps before running the test.

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 10:16 PM)
Maybe is my computer problem, 10years ago model laptop πŸ˜‚ maybe need find a new computer to test πŸ˜…
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105Mbps to Singapore not bad thumbup.gif

However the ping need some work to be done.
My ping from Ipoh here on Maxis to SG is about 16-20ms depending on network traffic.

Try use your 5GHz WiFi on your phone it should have slightly better response time. Don't stand too far away from your router.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 10:22 PM)
Actually is Using 5G hz Network , cos using smart connect, and it show 1 SSID only, it will help me to choose which is the best wifi to me πŸ˜‚
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Try disable IPv6 DHCP in your router if you know how to do it and which public DNS servers is CBB using?

From previous check, they don't have own public DNS but configure Google DNS in their routers.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 10:54 PM)
How to check?πŸ˜‚
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Here:

How To Find Your Public IP Address


Then click here:
https://whatismyipaddress.com/

Do the address match? If no, then you're on private IP.

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 11:33 PM)
Like this?
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Easily 10ms higher than normal.

All SG servers should be below 20ms. Also it's still new so the connections have not been optimized yet.
Connections to Klang Valley/KL/Cbj should be below 8ms from Ipoh.
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QUOTE(Neptern @ Aug 8 2020, 11:54 PM)
Hope they will work on the ping, at least it should be on par with other ISPs.
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Official launch is 1st Quarter 2021, he's considered lucky can be beta tester months before the launch to give feedback on network improvements. cool2.gif

Since you don't have a reliable PC/notebook to do proper testing there are many useful Android apps that can do similar tasks such as UDP tracert, pings and speedtests.

Try this:



PingTools Network Utilities
https://apkpure.com/pingtools-network-utili...msoft.pingtools



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Looking glass ip address which you can ping/do UDP traceroutes are:

SG - Newmedia Express(SG1)
45.119.201.6
http://sg1.newmediaexpress.com/

HK - HGC Looking Glass
https://lg.ibeo.hgc-intl.com/






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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 9 2020, 10:16 AM)
sry , miss out your request
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Please quickly remove your IP address if you're reading this for security purposes.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 9 2020, 11:37 AM)
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so is private or public IP?
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Have you compared the IPv4 address in your computer's command prompt ipconfig to that address?

If both are the same then it's a public IP. If different means you're on private IP.

Better still if you can log into your router's web configuration page and view the network map:

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Does the circled IP, match the IP address at the whatismyipaddress website? Is it the same?
Chat with me through PM if you're not sure.

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Suggested speed/ping test websites to use:

Meter.net
https://www.meter.net/ping-test/
Select SG, HK, Tokyo, Los Angeles or EDIS Austria/Switzerland

Google Fiber Speedtest
http://speed.googlefiber.net/
Wait for site to load. Only press start(play) button if the auto detected test server is Los Angeles/Stanford California

Nperf
https://www.nperf.com/en/
Manual select Kuala Lumpur - Umobile 10G, Putrajaya - TM 1G, SG servers.

Cloudflare Speedtest
https://www.speed.cloudflare.com/

SpeedofMe
https://speedof.me/

QUOTE(izhamsatria @ Aug 8 2020, 10:57 PM)
Can post screenshot on this webpage once all tests is complete?
https://mywebping.host/
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 11:33 PM)
Like this?

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The pings are always higher than actual average results when doing manual direct pings by 3-5ms.

Meaning if I directly ping and use Speedtest results for SG servers I get around 18-21ms, but the site shows around 23-26ms.

Also if you were to compare the ping results from Ipoh and KL, expect an additional 3-5ms because of the additional distance of around 200km.

Average latency/ping rates to SG
The average ping from KL to SG is around ~16ms
From Ipoh, it's ~20ms
From Penang even higher >20ms

This is true if you're using consumer grade broadband packages.

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 9 2020, 03:13 PM)
lan cable connect to TV box
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Most TV box LAN port can only support upto 100Mbps you can't max out your line with it.

Only way is by using 5GHz WiFi.

By the way which location server did you test there for 21ms?
If it's Singapore it's acceptable from Ipoh.

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