There is no such thing as minimum speed to support mesh wifi, just that it's wasted if you use a powerful router if used with a slower plan.

30M or 50M plans will also work with your mesh system.

Once you disable DHCP, turn off wireless and set a fix ip for your Calix ONT router, it becomes a dumb modem that relays all routing function to your 3rd party router acting only as a gateway.

He's just trying to upsell you with a higher end plan.Maybe they want to see if there's demand for higher end package plans before starting to offer the service in Ipoh.

To be frank, if you're just subscribing to 100M plan, don't waste your money buying an expensive MESH system just to extend wireless coverage in your home. It's a pure waste. A 2.4GHz 40MHz channel WiFi with a few cheap extenders placed at blindspots around your home is more than enough.

Just days back I saw the Xiaomi 300Mbps Wireless extenders only costs below RM40 a unit.

I've also checked that the advanced Calix GigaCenter ONT router they supplied for the higher end package has a drawback of not being able to set bridge mode to pass on the routing function to your 3rd party router should you need to provide your own.

There are a few workaround methods for it.

1) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, provide a static IP for your 3rd party router then place the your 3rd party router's IP on DMZ mode.

2) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, disable the DHCP server in your 3rd party router/Mesh system settings turning it into a plain wireless AP mode.

3) Provide your own router and GPON transceiver stick with an appointed installer/technician to configure it by the hour rate or the lower end plans below 500M are given Calix GigaHubs ONT fibre modems to which allow bridge mode for partner ISPs to supply their own routers. Also Calix has compatible Mesh adapters to work specifically for the GigaCenter model.

The taller and bigger sized all-in-1 GigaCenter model is for the higher end plans which does not have bridge mode. So you need to use either Method 1 or 2 or supply your own router with SFP+ GPON stick.

For landed using fibre running on TNB(Tenaga) electricity poles.

Acquired by Tenaga(TNB) and renamed to Allo Technology as its telco division.

Local server ping as low as only 1ms. That is Cyberjaya users to a Cyberjaya based server using a 1Gbps symmetrical line.

Doesn't look like TNB fibre cables, they have yellow stipes which belongs to TM.

I can see the 2nd picture it's running on telephone poles used by TM along with old copper telephone wires.
The cable by TNB runs on electricity poles instead.

The fibres used by TNB has orange patches on the cable unlike TM with yellow stripes.
Its pattern is like black-orange-black-orange-black...

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 17 2020, 11:20 PM

Yes that's right, you see the orange patch in between? It's not like TM's cables where you have yellow stripe along the whole cable length. It's like orange colored patches(tompok) in between.

That's the wonder of open fibre networks, ISPs or they call RSPs in SG can sell packages with different speed rates as they want, just that if it's unattractive people might avoid not choosing it.

The reason why Maxis is fixing their upload speed to 50Mbps is because they want to synchronize their plans across all networks including TM HSBB and Celcom Timur Sabah(CTS). They don't want some group of people suddenly marching to their centres protesting of unfair practices and why they sold them slower upload speeds on TM HSBB etc.

However here are the differences between the ISP plans on Allo.

1) With ASTRO Broadband, it might seem cheaper than Maxis Broadband with 50Mbps symmetrical speed and bundled ASTRO basic plan bvIPTV with PVR set-top box that allows recording. Early termination penalty is steep at RM1500.

2) Maxis Home Fibre is the most expensive here which is the same rate as their TM HSBB offering but the early termination penalty is a lot cheaper at RM500 with offer to have a home fixed line for just an extra RM10 with unlimited local calls(fixed/mobile).
There's a hidden and less promoted plan by Maxis though under the brand Hotlink Postpaid & Fibre Bundle.
https://www.hotlink.com.my/en/plan/hotlink-...paid-and-fibre/
For RM99/mth you get 30Mbps symmetrical + Hotlink Flex Plus 60 mobile line under the same bill bundle.The Flex Plus 60 account plan alone is already worth RM60 which is really a very good offer which means a symmetrical 30M FTTH plan only costs RM39 more only.

3) City Broadband. They offer symmetrical speeds across all plans upto 1Gbps. Most will only subscribe to their data plan but you will need a separate call plan outside.

Ready for Service (RFS)?

Of course it's thinner these cables are the last stretch that is used to connect FDPs with a 1x8 splitter inside.
At most it's a 4-strand(core) which is why it's much thinner unlike TM which pulls a big fat one into a row of houses but only provide 1 FDP to serve over 20 homes.

If there's 5 FDP behind the row of houses, that means you've to run 5 of this thinner cables containing less cores inside to each FDP branching out from a nearby junction cone box(black). It's a smarter strategy for future proofing.

TM pulls just one single FAT cable(with more cores) into just a FDP serving your home? That's awful bad planning.
What if they need to install another new FDP a few metres away from the old one later on if need arise?
1)Find an unused strand(core), splice it and pull another cable out of the existing box to connect the next FDP box?
2)Run another fat cable directly all the way from a nearby junction box again to the new FDP?

Plain wastage and unnecessary extra splice joints. That'll introduce even further attenuation losses.

Good news!

TNB Allo has now expanded to Ipoh Station 18 area.

The housing area in front of 7 Eleven(near AEON Station 18) now has new utility poles with orange-black colored fibre running on them. Some already have FDP boxes setup ready to commence servicing.

Only areas left now to cover are like:


Kampung Pasir Putih
Taman Rasa Sayang
Taman Shatin
Tebing Tinggi
Jalan Bendahara
Jalan Pasir Putih


All these areas still running old copper Streamyx and do not have fibre infra yet.

The utility poles have "PURPLE" paint square boxes for labelling with Allo logo on them.
FDP boxes are black in color.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 25 2020, 01:49 PM

RM79 for symmetrical 50M and RM99 for symmetrical 100M.
Even Time pricing also not as cheap and cannot offer this to LANDED properties.

When TM Unifi going to counter offer their pricing?

Hope TNB Allo sapu the entire Ipoh market from TM.

What about the fibre modem(ONT)? Which brand and model are they supplying now?
The TP-Link Archer A6 is just the router supplied by City Broadband right?

Other ISPs will provide their own such as Maxis will provide the Archer C5V but all will use the same ONT.

Does the router look like this:



This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 26 2020, 09:45 PM

All retail ISPs that run on TNB Allo network will use the same fibre modem(ONT) just like TM HSBB.
The ISPs however will supply their own router model to match the kind of services they offer such as fixed voice and IPTV.

In the case of CBB, they offer the TP-Link Archer A6 which does not come with phone ports because probably the customer is subscribing a data-only plan.

The reason why I want to know the fibre modem(ONT) is because I'm interested to know what brand of OLT equipment they're using at their exchange. The fibre modem(ONT) is usually matched with the OLT switching equipment at their datacentre.

Very slim chance actually. My area which is also served currently under TM HSBB will also will not be covered I supposed.

TM playing very dirty tricks now. For so many years, areas such as Jalan Pasir Putih, Tebing Tinggi, Sg Pari, Kampung Pasir Putih, Taman Sinfar/Shatin, Taman Rasa Sayang all these areas are sandwiched in between Lahat and Pengkalan did not have Unifi until middle of this year(May 2020).

When TM found out TNB was aggressively expanding their Allo fibre coverage, they quickly went to these areas and install just 1-2 boxes of FDP on every 3-5 lanes just to impose their dominance and occupy the "parking space" to prevent TNB from expanding their network there to avoid infra overlapping.

If your taman already got neighbors opposite your house got Unifi but your lorong don't have, TNB will not come also because TM will tell them it's their territory.

Our only hope is that TNB Allo captures a sizeable market in Ipoh to pressure TM to lower their wholesale prices.
Currently speaking, the pricing offered by TNB Allo's City Broadband is even cheaper than Time Fibre their reference pricing is:

RM79 for 50M/50M
RM99 for 100M/100M
RM199 for 1Gbps/1Gbps

All plans are symmetrical.Even Time Fibre cannot offer such rates their higher end plans such as the 1Gbps plan only has half rate 500M upload speeds. TNB can offer symmetrical 1Gbps even for landed homes because their network infra is the most modern in Malaysia.

I'm paying RM99/mth now just for a symmetrical 30M/30M when I'm supposed to get more than 3X the bandwidth if I'm on Time/TNB Allo network.

Our current MCMC minister also useless compared to Gobind. Instead of pressing TM to lower wholesale port pricing when it's already due after so many years, he is more interested in implementing social media and video production laws to get more licensing revenues..

The take up rates and demand for TNB Allo is very high now as one of our forumer friend here already says long waiting list. Hopefully it will pressure TM to come down on their wholesale pricing scheme and wake the sleeping MCMC up.

Normally during first round installations, the ISP will use same brand ONTs with the OLT equipment to minimize teething issues under observation.

Could be that TNB Allo ditched Calix(Ericsson) as its vendor to the more proven and cheaper Huawei which offered them a better deal for mass deployment?

Their silly move really stupid one. They started this dirty trick just about 1 month ago after the MCO ended. Place just 1 black colored FDP pole box facing the main road to cover few rows of houses behind it. Some would just pull the fibre cable and leave it dangling there.

Assuming if one of the house decides to subscribe to Unifi at the far end of the row there, will they be willing to pull a drop cable as far as 300m-1/2km away from the box?

So many years don't want to service these areas, when competitor arrived they only start to jump from their seats.

Better call and get in touch with their Perak team directly handling the project.

Not sure if you managed to get the contacts of the people responsible for the Perak side but here's a few FB pages with their contacts:

https://www.facebook.com/CityBroadbandPerak/
https://www.facebook.com/pg/CityBroadbandMa...siaDistributor/

These are the few areas sandwiched between Wisma TNB, Jln. Lahat and Taman Pengkalan Perdana which many areas are still served under copper Streamyx lines. When TM found out TNB was actively expanding through them, they quickly park a few FDPs just to fill in the parking spaces and chase them away saying that those Taman is under them so TNB cannot expand there.

Non of these tamans were fiberized or could subscribe to TM Unifi even until early 2020 before the MCO took place.

They are circled in blue areas. Orange areas are already served by TNB Allo and opened for registration already.

As you can see the distance of these blue circled areas are just ~2km from the Wisma TNB at Jln. Lahat.






Tebing Tinggi
Jln. Bendahara
Jln Pasir Putih
Kg Sungai Pari
Kg Pasir Putih/Tambahan
Taman Sinfar
Taman Shatin
Taman Keramat
Taman Rasa Sayang
Taman Pasir Putih


You can't reach Papan, Lahat or (Tmn. Pengkalan Perdana)Station 18 without passing these areas.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 28 2020, 02:34 PM

Ah yes, they are using one of those converted shipping container box converted into modular datacentre which houses the OLT equipments and servers like those by Google Fiber, NTT and Time Fibre is using.

That area looks like the Kawasan Perusahaan Menglembu site(industrial lots with blue roofing) which is facing the main Lahat road opposite AEON Big Falim which is even nearer to Kg Pasir Putih/Sg Pari just across the Kinta River which separates the 2 locations.

Coming from Lahat Road, at the intersection, straight willl take you to AEON, left will take you to the industrial site where the datacentre is located just next to a substation.

Direct line distance should be about 1.5km only.

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