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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Jul 29 2020, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 29 2020, 12:20 PM)
may I know ,is allo fibre gt any related with the unifi cable? because I saw a FB post ,some user said any fibre in Malaysia still need to connect unifi one at the end?
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Nothing at all is related. From your home/office to TNB's exchange datacentre's OLT, from there routed back to the respective ISP's main national gateway all is independent from Unifi.

Even if they need to rent TM's unused cable that's just Layer 1 dark fiber the other port that hooks up the other side is still owned by the individual ISP.

See how dirty they are? Not only they want to dominate areas but refuse to expand their service, they start telling lies that everyone else has to connect through them on social media channels. bangwall.gif

QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 29 2020, 12:36 PM)
I don't think allo and TM got any related as candy12 mention, their cable is different color. Unifi cable is yellow stripe while allo is orange stripe. Previously post candy12 also got said that unifi play dirty trick here are the comment that I copy from candy12 <<When TM found out TNB was aggressively expanding their Allo fibre coverage, they quickly went to these areas and install just 1-2 boxes of FDP on every 3-5 lanes just to impose their dominance and occupy the "parking space" to prevent TNB from expanding their network there to avoid infra overlapping.>> So I don't think Unifi and allo related, I might be wrong who knows.
Unrelated
Here is what they provide for router and ONT
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...107416021063444
The ONT seems very mini compare to unifi one
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From the picture and the size of the modem it's a Huawei EchoLife EG8010H Mini ONU(fibre modem).
Green colored port means it's using APC connector instead of the cheaper blue colored PC type that is supplied by TM.

As you can see this is how a true OPEN network provider works. All ISPs who are on the TNB Allo network is given EQUAL treatment. If the ISP wants to provide fixed voice call service, they have to provide you a router model of their own which has phone ports on it.

Not like TM wholesale, only their Unifi voice service can directly plug into the ONU, other ISP must provide their own router with phone ports.

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Not bad selection and choice, from TNB. They want to follow Google's Fiber Jack model design.
Though it has only 1 Gigabit Ethernet port, you won't be sharing the same ONT with more than 1 ISP which TM Wholesale also do not allow such arrangement.

The design is actually better thought of than Google Fiber's own Fiber Jack modem which is slimmer and awkward in design because the Ethernet port and power socket is located on the upside of the box while the APC fibre port is at the bottom.

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Price wise, I think the 1Gbps plan offered by City Broadband even competes directly with Google Fiber at RM199 which is less than USD$50 for a symmetrical 1Gbps line. thumbup.gif

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post Jul 29 2020, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 29 2020, 12:22 PM)
If you living in same taman as me I'm sure u got the leaflet from maxis right? You might consider subscribe to maxis plan, because their voice plan only need to add RM10 for every month and free voice call without extra charge. While CBB charge you extra RM20 for every month and voices call are charge with low rates at RM0.08/MIN. Low IDD call rates for international call. You can look for the maxis leaflet because I already don't know where I throw the leaflet.
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From my experience and just an advise, home fixed line on FTTH is quite troublesome. There are so many choices now with prepaid mobile lines that come with unlimited call plans why need a home fixed line?

The reason why I say this is because I'm now paying an extra RM10 for a fixed line which I rarely use. Why not save the money and get a higher speed plan instead like the symmetrical 100M plan for same price?

Maxis plans are more expensive RM89 for 30M symmetrical only and you need to top-up another RM10 for a fixed line with unlimited local calls which is RM99/mth.

Also because my fibre modem, router and cordless phone is plugged into the same multi adapter, when I power cycle modem devices, all the time/date settings on my cordless phone all will be RESET!
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post Jul 29 2020, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(TakanoKyohei @ Jul 29 2020, 11:31 AM)
is there any way that we can supply info to allobroadband or citybroadband that our kg/taman no fiber so they could take the task and fiber that area. so that TM will lose their location/customer in future.

so far i have contact them in fb and also request via MCMC too. i also have request via website too.
hopefully they will listen.
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You see the thing is this, ISPs do not want to get themselves messed up in the same taman/housing garden because in the end they'll have to fight over which lorong/road belongs to who or who.

End up how to win the argument? doh.gif

So they tell each other whoever starts servicing the taman/housing garden first gets to park there and dominate.

Google Fiber also faced the same problem across many cities in USA during their build-outs. When they started fiber laying, AT&T started to beat them to it and sell their fibre services around the same pricing as them locking the neighborhood down with service contracts.

But competition is US and Japan is very fierce. Google Fiber, KDDI, and Sony Nuro were still expanding and overlapping those areas which has incumbent telcos already servicing the areas with FTTH. People were still switching and waited for them because they offered CHEAPER, MORE RELIABLE and TRUSTED services and also they were sicked/fed up of the being monopolized by the incumbent traditional telcos that provided them lousy services for so many years.

Just like why many still preferred to choose Time Fibre instead of Unifi when both telcos are available in the same building?

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post Jul 30 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 29 2020, 11:54 PM)
So sad that I can't apply for fiber because of my father, when ask for upgrade he will say such thing as "Why upgrade? For you guys to game faster?" And also he didn't like drilling in the home. SMH. Guess I'll stuck with 4mbps cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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You sure? Difference is only RM10 a month but at least 10X faster. It's not just about games and NSFS stuffs.
They're plenty of things you can utilize the extra bandwidth during the MCO and to help you with your school work if you're disciplined.All your home's WiFi will be taken care of without needing to use your phone's quota.

Anyway, once you leave school to join the working world or get married living with your own family you'll then understand why you need a good internet connection at home.
Difference between RM10-RM30/mth makes little difference when your job depends on it.
Be patient. It's just started allow a few years for it to stabilize. Many people are also still tied down to long service contracts so they can't be switching now also. Expansion is still spotty.

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post Jul 30 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 30 2020, 02:58 PM)
Ah yes, this must be the green color you talk about

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Green Color = APC
Blue Color = UPC

APC is more expensive variant and introduces better return loss performance needed for higher freq. wavelengths and WDM applications upgrades needed in future.

The APC connector shape has a 8-degrees curved in angle.

TM and cheaper 3rd world countries still using UPC.
Singapore and Google Fiber are already using APC.

APC vs. UPC: What’s the Difference?

https://www.belden.com/blog/data-centers/UPC-or-APC

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post Jul 31 2020, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 31 2020, 04:06 PM)
Yup, I hv apply already, should be install on last Monday, but until now still waiting

When call to Careline, their said not yet open for apply in perak now, and he don’t know why official’s website can apply already...

I contact the my CBB dealer, he answer is CBB have temporary stop install until further notice, he is forcing CBB open services in august, hope can install on next week....

Beside that , I wrote a email sent to CBB, just very common answer please patiently wait their installer to call and reconfirm date to install the modem and router...
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I guess all of them already in Raya mood since early this week.Many already took leave to balik kampung since Monday so no one around to do installations or willing to commit any installations.

Better to wait a little while so that they return to work with peace of mind and do a better job for you. No point chasing them, when their mind already looking forward to balik kampung trip. laugh.gif

At least when they return they can concentrate better and do a better installation for you.
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 31 2020, 03:40 PM)
Did you subscribe to CBB? And did they say they had temporary not allow their worker start their installation work in Menglembu??
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Raya season just around the corner, and the project just launched many teething issues that require close observation when deployed.

Wait for the holiday season to end first so that they return to the job with full concentration.At least you get better finish work after this.
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post Aug 2 2020, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(bufny @ Aug 2 2020, 11:23 AM)
HI, after read all the messages here, I just wander you say Menglembu area.
does it include the kampung baru (regrouping area)?

Because after observe, I don't see any allo boxes in my kampung baru area.
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Do you see orange stripes cable hanging on TNB poles in your area?
If no, then your area is not covered yet. Sometimes there are other fibre cables on TNB poles but they're not used for last mile FTTH. More for SCADA plant fault detection system and mobile station backhaul.

Is your area currently served by TM Unifi coverage or your taman already has Unifi?
If yes, then again your area will be skipped.
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post Aug 3 2020, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(bufny @ Aug 3 2020, 09:54 AM)
No, I don't see any orange stripes cable in my area.

And, we don't have unifi here too. Hope TNB will take care of my area.......
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Do you see other cables then? Like yellow striped ones, green or white?

If yellow striped ones run in your area, TM probably will lock that area down from others to come in. Just that they lazy to set up FDP in your area unless demand picks up and the neighborhood people start to put themselves in the demand list complaining.

Just last week at Tebing Tinggi area, SUDDENLY the main road there they set up a new TM HSBB FDC by the side of the road after local residents started to complain about no Unifi service in that area until middle of May 2020.

This TM as mentioned will only wake up once shaken by competitor. They'll only wake up and expand once they hear got competitor want to seize fibre coverage from them.

Also latest OT news:

Time Fibre also now expanding to Ipoh.
Kinta Riverfront Service Suites will be the FIRST condominium to be wired up by Time Home Fibre this month(Aug 2020).

You can find it in Time Fibre's coverage map for Ipoh.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 3 2020, 09:20 PM)
really quite long way⋯ until now still dun received call yet⋯ maybe still handle maxis and astro kes first, cos they open apply early than CBB
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Do wait patiently as they're probably assigning ports specifically to each individual FDC(roadside cabinet) for each taman one by one. New networks require teething issues and closer observations.

Waiting for your update when your equipment is installed including pictures. Thanks rclxms.gif
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post Aug 4 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(bufny @ Aug 4 2020, 10:41 AM)
So far, don't see any color cables in my area yet.

I hope unifi doesn't come and CBB comes to my area.
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Then there's chance that TNB might expand to your area. They have to move fast though, dirty TM might make the move first and pull their YELLOW Stripe cables into your area to seal competitors off from expanding into yours. After that, they'll just sit on their LAZY bottom and threaten the locals there saying not enough demand or nonsensical excuses for delaying FDP boxes from being placed on poles.
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 4 2020, 01:11 PM)
Weird, as I know Taman Sepakat is already been cover by Unifi. How come did they also able to cover that area too. Not asking question, just wonder why. Some sort of wizard magic?
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There are few possibilities.

Maybe some high ranking TNB staffs resides there making numerous complaints over the years or they have quarters there? TM has no fibre infra expanded to large portion there yet, some VIP government official lives there or the taman area is large enough to be divided up?
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 5 2020, 01:42 PM)
if like that, really not impression on their services
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Newly launch sure got lots of hiccups and issues. Need time for settling down and stabilize.
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 5 2020, 03:33 PM)
I heard that other people say that maxis so called "unlimited data" is a scam, there a limit with their "unlimited data" which is 300GB, after 300GB you will experience 512Kbps internet speed. I'll rather wait than using scam internet provider.
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Nah, that's for their wireless plans, not applicable to their home fibre service. I'm currently using Maxis Home Fibre no such limitations. Just yesterday I downloaded almost 50GB in one day.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 5 2020, 03:28 PM)
I understood. But just really want to know is my WO will on this month or not, If not may try other ISP like maxis
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Maxis is quite expensive. RM89 for 30M symmetrical when add RM10 more can get 3X more speed with symmetrical CBB 100M plan.

Many Ipoh people want to be as lucky as you to have TNB Allo coverage but couldn't get it just to enjoy CBB broadband packages which are cheaper than Time Broadband for landed.

The housing garden(taman) around my area(Taman Sinfar/Shatin/Pasir Putih) now suddenly TM HSBB yellow stripe cable appearing everywhere folded and hanging on poles. Looks like TM suddenly shaken and got frightened, they quickly expand their HSBB coverage to prevent TNB from reaching these places.

Still their pricing cannot match CBB or Time Fibre. Those who have installed CBB will go round singing to their neighbors and relatives saying TM plans are expensive and slow.

Let them SPREAD the news, people who live in these areas will still NOT subscribe to TM and rather wait for 5G instead because TM still cannot compete with CBB pricing.

50M/50M - RM79
100M/100M - RM99
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199

If your neighbors opposite your taman paying these prices and your area all these while still don't have Unifi coverage suddenly TM come and expand fibre to your lorong, you want to SUBSCRIBE?
To be honest, I WON'T. Rather wait for 5G and use 4G unlimited plan without contract BYO modem.
TM wholesale pricing seems to be:

RM129 - 100M/50M
RM89 - 30M/10M

Feel like kena TIPU.
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QUOTE(jimmythw @ Aug 6 2020, 02:17 AM)
Hi, i'm just appoint by innomapps as a ipoh agents and anyone would like to apply to CBB may contacts me. Thanks
I'll post your banner at the front page for referencing to those who are interested in subscribing to your service.

Other Allo network ISP dealers from Maxis, Astro Broadband Celcom and DiGi Home Fibre feel free to do so and post your flyers here.I'll update the first page upon request.

Word of advise: Do exercise caution though when revealing your contact details. Only post your official office numbers/helplines or if you need to provide a mobile contact number for marketing purposes do provide an official one which is used STRICTLY during office working hours.

DO NOT ever give your personal number and risk yourself being disturbed by calls/harassment at night. You never know how dirty this industry can be.

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 6 2020, 01:42 PM)
as I know, menglembu area only have three ISP only
1. Maxis fibre
2. Astro & broadband
3. City broadband

Other ISP still dun hv any information yet, maybe they won’t join in menglembu area
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During the launch in Malacca, the other ISPs present were Celcom, DiGi and surprisingly TM Unifi during Gobind's visit. They might join later but pricing wise, their plans not as attractive as CBB.
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 6 2020, 02:57 PM)
Are you Ipoh folk by any chances? It seems that you are quite familiar with Ipoh places.
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My entire childhood grown up in this town.
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QUOTE(hammuheado @ Aug 6 2020, 04:27 PM)
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The ONU is same as the 2nd from the right. I saw Unifi, Maxis, and Astro come to my Taman to promote their plans, but no Digi and Celcom.

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Doesn't look like a FDP box but a junction box which is used to split up fibre strands.
It looks more like a backhaul TM line running on it.

Could you take the picture of the Allo FDP box with the cable connecting to it?

Your previous picture:

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That pole is a TM pole not a TNB pole, it has copper phone wires running on top.

It is a TM HSBB line, not a TNB Allo cable. You see the 2 shrink wraps running in parallel on top? Those are copper telephone cables by TM. Why is TNB running their fibre on TM poles?


Fast forward to 1:43 onwards, you can see TM Unifi also offering their service on TNB Allo Open Fibre
Digi and Celcom had their booths setup there.

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TM all other Malaysian ISPs must use their lines. But these pictures tell otherwise, more like TM now has to depend on TNB Allo Fibre to expand their Unifi coverage laugh.gif

Noticed the fibre modem(ONT) on the right side of the TM Unifi TP-Link C5V router(also used by Maxis) is a Calix(Ericsson) model provided by Tenaga(TNB)?

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Digi and Celcom Booths:

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