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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Aug 7 2020, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 7 2020, 09:56 AM)

still checking now๏ผŒ means no installation nowโ‹ฏ๐Ÿ˜ž
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Jasilu90, as Candy12 said earlier "Their official launch is supposed to be 1st quarter 2021". So means you have to wait abit longer ๐Ÿ˜


QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 7 2020, 12:51 PM)

Sad case. Today my tmn only got people put banner only. And I check around my tmn they already have install the terminal(Idk what it call)

https://pictr.com/images/2020/08/07/7icghQ.md.jpg
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Oh yeah and I see the guy who do installation comes to my tmn, though I don't know they are from which ISP.
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Xelnagakail, the white box C05 have long install. I think you are referring to the black box, which called DP.

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post Aug 7 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 7 2020, 02:53 PM)
Even though the news is last year and didn't mention tnb or TM, but I think they are referring to TM by looking at the speed 30 and 100mbps, only TM provide this speed.

Although I don't know about about much coverage in papan, but I'm sure Silibin got a very large coverage that include resident and industries.
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post Aug 7 2020, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 7 2020, 04:00 PM)
Even though the news is last year and didn't mention tnb or TM, but I think they are referring to TM by looking at the speed 30 and 100mbps, only TM provide this speed.

Although I don't know about about much coverage in papan, but I'm sure Silibin got a very large coverage that include resident and industries.
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Actually got mention in previous new๐Ÿ˜‚

This is first Stage about menglembu
https://www.sinchew.com.my/pad/con/content_2128009.html

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post Aug 7 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 7 2020, 03:52 PM)
Jasilu90, as Candy12 said earlier "Their official launch is supposed to be 1st quarter 2021". So means you have to wait abit longer ๐Ÿ˜
Xelnagakail, the white box C05 have long install. I think you are referring to the black box, which called DP.
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๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ฃ๐Ÿ˜ซ๐Ÿ˜ข

If like that, I should find a backup plan to spend this no Internet period๐Ÿ˜ญ
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post Aug 7 2020, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 7 2020, 03:37 PM)
Thanks for the news, Although I have doubt that TNB will expand to those area as the news didn't explicitly mention TNB but by using the Umbrella term HSBB (which could
meant either Unifi or TNB). But their Website Tender Notice do mention on Fiber Infra in Sg Rapat (Fiber Hut?) which located right around Botani And Ampang Area. So all hope is not lost?  sweat.gif

I know Candy12 mention that TNB will not overlap TM Unifi location, But from my perspective it's weird that TNB does not utilize their competitive pricing as their advantage,
Unless there's some underhand table agreement that's not Visible to us Consumer.
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If TM continues to expand its HSBB coverage sparsely by just placing minimal ports and to reserve their foothold in these areas, TNB will eventually will blocked from expanding to potential key areas where demand really exists.

My suggestion is that TNB Allo should go head on and expand directly into rich existing community areas to shake TM up. Go right into Ipoh city such as Jalan Pasir Putih/Tebing Tinggi/Jalan Bendahara where TM is still slowly expanding to serve businesses there and target new/old gated community bangalow/Semi-D home gardens around Pasir Putih off Tiger Lane(off Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah) all the way to Ipoh Gardens and Bercham.

If they don't do that, TM is already taking the dirty moves to prevent TNB from entering popular areas where real demand exists and force them to enter leftover unwanted areas where people don't bother getting home fibre internet.

Healthy competition can only exists when there are more than 2 fixed line operators in an area with different infrastructure.If there's only 1 FTTH fixed provider in your area/building, the wholesale company will likely favor their own ISP(Unifi) and force other ISPs to eat the leftovers with their unfair wholesale port pricing structure.

For TM, it is already too late for them now to play dirty and start dominating areas where you once neglected for so many years. Even if you were to start providing new ports for the waiting lists, people will NOT subscribe to your packages anymore because of it's overpriced plans.

The reference price now offered by Allo CBB/Time Home Fibre for symmetrical 100M is RM99/mth.

Even if you managed to pull your lines earlier than TNB Allo to those who were on the Unifi waiting list for years unable to subscribe to it, will they subscribe once they find out that CBB/Time Home Fibre pricing is so much cheaper?

I'm currently on Maxis Home Fibre paying RM99/mth for symmetrical 30M for the same price other people are getting 3X more the speed I'm getting at 100Mbps. The competing ISPs other than Unifi on TM HSBB network cannot do anything because of the wholesale port pricing TM imposes on them despite being a monopoly player in Malaysia.

Why smaller fibre networks such as TNB Allo and Time Fibre can offer cheaper wholesale ports but TM can't?
Not only that, their customer installations continue to cut costs and removing essential parts that was supposed to be provided to the customer such as wall sockets and proper fusion splicing for their drop fibres.
Also they're now starting to supply cheap unknown brand routers such as AZ-Tech to recent installations but forcing them to sign 2 years contract with remaining months penalty if the customer wants early termination.

Do you think existing and future customers want to tolerate this nonsense scam like practices?

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post Aug 7 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 7 2020, 04:30 PM)
๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ฃ๐Ÿ˜ซ๐Ÿ˜ข

If like that, I should find a backup plan to spend this no Internet period๐Ÿ˜ญ
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While waiting, try not to commit with plans which require long term contracts. Always try to find one with no contract such as Maxis WiFi Go, DiGi Infinite and Unifi Air SIM only plans.

Just a few more months worth waiting.
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post Aug 8 2020, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 7 2020, 06:30 PM)
If TM continues to expand its HSBB coverage sparsely by just placing minimal ports and to reserve their foothold in these areas, TNB will eventually will blocked from expanding to potential key areas where demand really exists.

My suggestion is that TNB Allo should go head on and expand directly into rich existing community areas to shake TM up. Go right into Ipoh city such as Jalan Pasir Putih/Tebing Tinggi/Jalan Bendahara where TM is still slowly expanding to serve businesses there and target new/old gated community bangalow/Semi-D home gardens around Pasir Putih off Tiger Lane(off Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah) all the way to Ipoh Gardens and Bercham.

If they don't do that, TM is already taking the dirty moves to prevent TNB from entering popular areas where real demand exists and force them to enter leftover unwanted areas where people don't bother getting home fibre internet.

Healthy competition can only exists when there are more than 2 fixed line operators in an area with different infrastructure.If there's only 1 FTTH fixed provider in your area/building, the wholesale company will likely favor their own ISP(Unifi) and force other ISPs to eat the leftovers with their unfair wholesale port pricing structure.

For TM, it is already too late for them now to play dirty and start dominating areas where you once neglected for so many years. Even if you were to start providing new ports for the waiting lists, people will NOT subscribe to your packages anymore because of it's overpriced plans.

The reference price now offered by Allo CBB/Time Home Fibre for symmetrical 100M is RM99/mth.

Even if you managed to pull your lines earlier than TNB Allo to those who were on the Unifi waiting list for years unable to subscribe to it, will they subscribe once they find out that CBB/Time Home Fibre pricing is so much cheaper?

I'm currently on Maxis Home Fibre paying RM99/mth for symmetrical 30M for the same price other people are getting 3X more the speed I'm getting at 100Mbps. The competing ISPs other than Unifi on TM HSBB network cannot do anything because of the wholesale port pricing TM imposes on them despite being a monopoly player in Malaysia.

Why smaller fibre networks such as TNB Allo and Time Fibre can offer cheaper wholesale ports but TM can't?
Not only that, their customer installations continue to cut costs and removing essential parts that was supposed to be provided to the customer such as wall sockets and proper fusion splicing for their drop fibres.
Also they're now starting to supply cheap unknown brand routers such as AZ-Tech to recent installations but forcing them to sign 2 years contract with remaining months penalty if the customer wants early termination.

Do you think existing and future customers want to tolerate this nonsense scam like practices?
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I supposed TNB have the resources to do that if they want to? As they seems to be in a much better financial state then TM.

I think TNB is trying to swiftly move into Area without Unifi to establish presence. As Ipoh having an aging population. They could only rely on brand name and pricing to attract people over as most are not tech
literate and will take anything that are present at the moment. sweat.gif
No body i talk to seem to be aware of their presence and the differences between Unifi HSBB and TNB Allo Network

Perhaps TNB Allo will have big enough resources in the future to take a gamble and expand into Unifi area and take their dominance away icon_idea.gif

For me It seems like TM don't know it's priority, First to be in the FTTH market still can screw up. Acquire Webe still doesn't provide enough coverage nor the capacity for rurals area
and their willingness to support aging Copper Infra rather than move everyone to Fiber which are potentially much cheaper in the long run doh.gif



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post Aug 8 2020, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 7 2020, 06:30 PM)
If TM continues to expand its HSBB coverage sparsely by just placing minimal ports and to reserve their foothold in these areas, TNB will eventually will blocked from expanding to potential key areas where demand really exists.

My suggestion is that TNB Allo should go head on and expand directly into rich existing community areas to shake TM up. Go right into Ipoh city such as Jalan Pasir Putih/Tebing Tinggi/Jalan Bendahara where TM is still slowly expanding to serve businesses there and target new/old gated community bangalow/Semi-D home gardens around Pasir Putih off Tiger Lane(off Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah) all the way to Ipoh Gardens and Bercham.

If they don't do that, TM is already taking the dirty moves to prevent TNB from entering popular areas where real demand exists and force them to enter leftover unwanted areas where people don't bother getting home fibre internet.

Healthy competition can only exists when there are more than 2 fixed line operators in an area with different infrastructure.If there's only 1 FTTH fixed provider in your area/building, the wholesale company will likely favor their own ISP(Unifi) and force other ISPs to eat the leftovers with their unfair wholesale port pricing structure.

For TM, it is already too late for them now to play dirty and start dominating areas where you once neglected for so many years. Even if you were to start providing new ports for the waiting lists, people will NOT subscribe to your packages anymore because of it's overpriced plans.

The reference price now offered by Allo CBB/Time Home Fibre for symmetrical 100M is RM99/mth.

Even if you managed to pull your lines earlier than TNB Allo to those who were on the Unifi waiting list for years unable to subscribe to it, will they subscribe once they find out that CBB/Time Home Fibre pricing is so much cheaper?

I'm currently on Maxis Home Fibre paying RM99/mth for symmetrical 30M for the same price other people are getting 3X more the speed I'm getting at 100Mbps. The competing ISPs other than Unifi on TM HSBB network cannot do anything because of the wholesale port pricing TM imposes on them despite being a monopoly player in Malaysia.

Why smaller fibre networks such as TNB Allo and Time Fibre can offer cheaper wholesale ports but TM can't?
Not only that, their customer installations continue to cut costs and removing essential parts that was supposed to be provided to the customer such as wall sockets and proper fusion splicing for their drop fibres.
Also they're now starting to supply cheap unknown brand routers such as AZ-Tech to recent installations but forcing them to sign 2 years contract with remaining months penalty if the customer wants early termination.

Do you think existing and future customers want to tolerate this nonsense scam like practices?
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Seriously now TM provide aztech router instead of Dlink or Tplink? I know that aztech is a shitty router and modem for a long time, they cause a lot of problem like lag or sudden disconnect. So now TM has become more and more cheap, what bad move they are going now. ranting.gif
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Jasilu90, from what I heard from the dealer they still doing testing in tmn arkid to make sure the connection is stable. After the connection then they only can do the installation.

Be patient man, it better than half finish product.

Did you terminate your internet after you apply CBB? From what I read from your post it seems you do.


Unrelated. They now also seems to provide this tplink router

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Isn't this router is older and same as TM that provide to customer before the aztech? Is this good or the Archer A6 AC1200
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 8 2020, 01:29 PM)

Jasilu90, from what I heard from the dealer they still doing testing in tmn arkid to make sure the connection is stable. After the connection then they only can do the installation.

Be patient man, it better than half finish product. 

Did you terminate your internet after you apply CBB? From what I read from your post it seems you do.
Unrelated. They now also seems to provide this tplink router

https://pictr.com/images/2020/08/08/7i9K9J.md.jpg
Isn't this router is older and same as TM that provide to customer before the aztech? Is this good or the Archer A6 AC1200
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Xelnagakail, dont worry. Jasilu90 is bz now as his house is in the process of installation. Wait for his reply. ๐Ÿ˜

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 8 2020, 01:33 PM)
Xelnagakail, dont worry. Jasilu90 is bz now as his house is in the process of installation. Wait for his reply. ๐Ÿ˜
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Seriously? How did you know? Are you both friend?
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 8 2020, 02:06 PM)
Seriously? How did you know? Are you both friend?
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Yup, they are installing the modem and router now ๐Ÿ˜‚


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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 8 2020, 02:06 PM)
Seriously? How did you know? Are you both friend?
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2 month friendship thru my complaint at CBB fb page ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 8 2020, 02:21 PM)
2 month friendship thru my complaint at CBB fb page ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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Ah I seen this post, no wonder you both known so well.๐Ÿ˜‚
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 8 2020, 01:53 AM)
Seriously now TM provide aztech router instead of Dlink or Tplink? I know that aztech is a shitty router and modem for a long time, they cause a lot of problem like lag or sudden disconnect. So now TM has become more and more cheap, what bad move they are going now. ranting.gif
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The Aztech TM providing is some OEM China unknown model with A-Z Tech branding, not the Singapore one and the other one is also another cheap unkown brand named Netis.

They no more providing those known brands such as TP-Link or DLink.

On top of that no more proper installation such as fixed wall socket(FWS) in their standard installation which reduces the value they're giving but still want to impose 2 years FULL remaining months contract termination policy.

Smart conscious consumers will know they're being short changed and cheated, they won't bother signing up with them.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 02:08 PM)
Yup, they are installing the modem and router now ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Can't wait to see how did your installation went. Can post the picture of your fibre modem(ONT), router given and how the installation looked like at your place?

Got give wall socket box?

Did you opt for standard installation or extra customized install from installer?

Can I use some of your pictures to post up at the front page as referencing? Thanks.
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post Aug 8 2020, 05:48 PM

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Wifi speed is good, but lan cable canโ€™t up to 50mbps

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I'll do a short review of the photos you posted later when I have the time.

Thanks for the pics.

Also can you do more speedtests on different servers across the world?

Select:

1)Singapore: Newmedia Express

2)HK: HGC (Hutchison Global Communications Ltd)

3)HK: China Mobile

4)Guangzhou: China Mobile

5)Shenzhen: China Mobile

6)Tokyo: OPEN PROJECT 20G

7)Tsukuba: SoftEther Corporation

8)Los Angeles: FDC Servers

9)Los Angeles: Frontier

10)GoSport: Iomart (UK major submarine landing site)

11)Amsterdam: Serverius Connectivity

12)Frankfurt: Leaseweb

13)Zurich: Sunrise Communication AG

14)Winterthur: Init7

15)Beijing: Beijing Broadband Network

Besides speed, it is also very important to take note of average ping times.

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 05:48 PM)
Wifi speed is good, but lan cable canโ€™t up to 50mbps
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I do envy that you are able to subscribe to TNB Allo while I'm probably stuck with TM forever.

Do post some reviews and usage so that we can hyped up at least smile.gif
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Please refer to front page as I've updated all upstream and IPV4 peering partners for Allo Technology S/B (AS45410)

The list will give you an idea which networks around the world will give you optimal routing.

Allo Technology has peering and good partnership with Newmedia Express SG, Hutchison Global Communications(HK) and China Mobile Malaysia.

So when selecting test servers for speedtests you can use servers hosted by them to check how good your international connections are.

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User is probably on symmetrical 100M/100M plan which costs only RM99/mth.

He's getting 105M Down and 150M Up in excess to what he subscribed. So this prove that TNB Allo's network has no BUFFERFLOAT restriction where the ONT's speed profile is capped. The user's account restricts the speed the user is getting so very fair approach for competing ISPs using Allo Network.

Only issue noticed is the high ping rate for local server test which is 21ms. Can still be improved or connection not optimized yet.

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The router provided is a TP-Link Archer A6 and the mini fibre modem(ONT) supplied is a Huawei EchoLife HG8310M which uses APC green colored connector as opposed to TM's blue colored PC connector.

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Standard installation also comes with a Fibre Wall Socket(FWS)

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