Allo Technology(City Broadband) AS45410 relies almost entirely on just 1 ISP to fulfill its bandwidth transit needs making them almost like a reseller to NTT Asia as its wholesaler.

Almost 90% of its bandwidth routes through NTT Asia. So if NTT Asia is problematic, this is almost unavoidable that Allo City Broadband will be affected as well.

It's still a small ISP unlike Maxis, Digi or TM where they have a mixed redundant backup routes to play with when one of their transit carrier ISP goes down/experience technical issues.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Nov 1 2020, 09:47 PM

Any Allo sales lead who wants to answer his questions?

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You know those captchas which you need to solved are not child puzzles just to verify you as humans. They've other purposes such as to record your image canvassing data, your ping times to identify which region you're from and many other things. It isn't that simple.

Pertaining to your question, no Allo Technology S/B the data ISP division of TNB does not rent from others, it BUILDS its own last mile fibre network.

TM, TIME and TNB Allo all builds and operates their own individual last mile fibre networks but they allow layer 2/3 arrangements by other ISPs to route through them with their own accounts. From the OLT switches at the exchange until the fibre modem at the customer's premise is individually owned by them(Allo, TM or TIME) while they allow partnering ISPs to route their connections back to their data centres making use of their last mile infras.

About the overlapping of infra with existing TM coverage, it depends on the telco's budget and interests to provide competition in that particular area or not. If they feel that the area/housing garden is worth attacking or putting up the challenge to the already existing telco they they might have a go.

But I don't think Allo's original plan was to put up a direct fight with TM and steal all their customers away. They wanted to cover areas which were neglected by TM and comfortably have those areas to themselves such as the wide Blue Ocean strategy but unfortunately TM "JUMPED" and got grilled by political parties for their bad handling approach and thus they didn't want to lose out those areas to other players since they already served them copper for so many years.

You see, the strategy for deploying passive optics is to bring a certain "quantity" to an area to break even and achieve profitability. No point if you'd just pull a few strands of fibre to an area and service a few homes. Your maintenance alone will exceed your revenues unless the users a prepared to pay premium prices or dedicated P2P lines. A street cabinet can serve up to about 2000 ports per garden/area. If your area is already served by TM Unifi, do you think it might be a risk for a smaller ISP such as Allo to bet their stakes in those areas just to cover a few roads ignored by TM.

Also there's lots of considerations you need to put in mind, not only occupying ports, logical/virtual stuffs such as IP pool sizes, are most people on TM already tied with long contracts, bandwidth capacity, etc..

TNB Allo(City Broadband) does not have their own DNS, they apply Google DNS by default on all their subscriber's stock routers.Heck they don't even have their own speed test server and they buy wholesale bandwidth almost entirely from NTT Asia for their international transit access.

My advise is use a good Singaporean VPN server owned by a reputable ISP. That'll remove re-route you out from your ISP's default routing while still maintaining acceptable response timing as it's closest to Malaysia.

You can try Google Cloud VPN, Amazon or SG.GS based VPN services to avoid your standard ISP routing paths.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Nov 2 2020, 07:58 PM

My hopes and situation is probably very similar to yours. Area already covered by Unifi, chances of Allo overlapping is slim to none.

Business politics and rivalry can be very nasty in our country. Some of the larger ISPs do not want to expand their home fibre network not because they can't afford to but they fear many issues might arise with all sorts of risks they'll have to bear.

That's why they're more interested in deploying 5G. Easier and less hassle to their customers. Just collect the CPE modem, return home plug in the power cord and connected within secs. Speed wise in excess of gigabits and latency is said to rival fibre with 1ms to 1st hop(base station).

That way they can have better control of their pricing and subscription plans. No need expensive build outs, heavy cabling and complicated installations/drilling.

It is realizable as 5G equipments continue to drop in price in the near future. Only their base stations needs heavy fiberization. No need to wire up until the customer's home.

Mind sharing how your setup is like in Bangsar South? What kind of modem/equipment they provide?

Does Allo provide City Broadband services there or Viewqwest is the sole provider there with their own infra?

So it's a central switch on each floor riser with UTP pulled to customer's units right? No fibre modem to each customer's premise like they have in Cyberjaya, Malacca and Ipoh?

All you need to do is just plug your router into the ethernet socket in your office and configure the account to get connected?

Business 1Gbps involves non standard installation. Probably P2P or non shared port.Maybe they'll supply the customer an optical transceiver for their own customized enterprise router or using P2P managed carrier ethernet like a leased circuit.

Cannot be much more expensive than residential 1Gbps which is just under RM200/mth.

Willing sure lah who doesn't want 50M symmetrical for RM69/mth promo for small families/singles?

RM89 for symmetrical 100M and RM199 for symmetrical 1Gbps? Even Time also cannot offer such good deal.

Cannot, your landline numbers belongs to TM unless Unifi joins Allo as one of their partner ISP but then again you can only retain it if you use Unifi as your ISP.

Other ISPs are not allowed access to TM's range of landline numbers unless in future they agree on a MNP for landlines as well like mobile networks.

Same goes to Taman Pasir Putih, Shatin Garden, Rose Garden all the way down Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah(Tiger Lane) until Ipoh Gardens.

Plenty of business to grab there.

Maybe less priority because many of the areas there already covered by Unifi for many years despite some of them still under old copper Streamyx infra.

Yes from learning the mistake previously of informing the public in advance, they woke TM up and made them expedite their rollout to those areas to get people to sign up before TNB Allo could complete their installation works.

This time, better learn from mistake. Keep the rollout plans secret!

Well you sounded like a sour competitor through unhappy about what I said previously.

TNB isn't telling now which other cities they'll be expanding to recently they're going to give TM a big surprise.
Don't think you can beat a energy utility company in terms of cash flow. They have almost full monopoly of West Malaysia's electricity utility supply market It doesn't take much to bundle fiber optics which is cheap an abunadnt today to run along all their power grids.

These containers are exchanges itself they're all remotely controlled directly from Allo's HQ at Cyberview Villas which is very close by NTT MSC around the area along with AMD's administrative office.

They'll need probably 2-3 more to cover the entire Ipoh city.

1)
Ipoh CBD and Old Town area which stretches upto the entire Jln Pasir Putih main road.
Huge capacity of ports are needed to cover this area.

2)
Then there's Chemor/Bercham/Tasek/Tg Rambutan/Tambun area. Too far away for the Lahat exchange to reach.

3)
Jelapang/Aman Jaya township is another suburb needs its own pool.

4)
Batu Gajah needs its own to cover Pusing.

Significant investment is needed. Ipoh area land and districts are actually quite wide.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Dec 22 2020, 10:55 PM

Issit that area just behind AEON Station 18 Mall? Noticed just a few rows of house only covered. Behind there the flats and school area all already Unifi covered. But if strangely, the old housing gardens further up the TM exchange office there(behind the corner lot 7 Eleven) many housing gardens such as Taman Pasir Puteh, Taman Rasa Sayang and Taman Shatin all still have very spotty Unifi coverage. They just put a FDP to in between few lorongs to serve a few lanes there. Some are still stuck with very old copper infra, why TNB Allo why not coveraing that area?

I see, my mistake there.

Was referring to Taman Pengkalan Perdana and those few rows of houses on Jalan Pengkalan Barat 25A/B/C. I noticed only like 3 rows of homes there nearby AEON Station 18 is covered by TM Allo.

Thanks for the detailed share. Many of the homes aorund that area still stuck with TM monopoly are also not covered by fibre yet. A quick drive through will reveal that behind at the alley all the telephone poles are still with copper connections.No FDP boxes at all.

TNB Allo's new Ookla speed test server.

speed.allo.technology

For those who are using City Broadband can use this server to test your line by pinging it to check your latency.
You can also test your speed by heading to Speedtest.net and select Allo Technology manually with their list of servers.

ViewQwest might be joining TNB Allo Ipoh's network soon according to recent news.

Will they build their own standalone active infra network which uses their own OLT equipment and fibre modem(ONT) for deployment or they'll become a retail service provider using VLAN tagging on TNB Allo existing arrangement?

ViewQwest Acquires Macro Lynx and iHalo As Part of Nationwide Expansion Plans

https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2021/01/05...xpansion-plans/

RM48/mth symmetrical 100M if sign up 3 years contract?