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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Feb 2 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Feb 2 2021, 09:30 AM)
oh... my place using white color.
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Maybe your place also using different OLT switch equipment? Like in Malacca, Calix OLT? or using Huawei universal OLT just like in Menglembu?

You know TM tried to use different universal ONTs(fibre modems) with their OLTs end up many reported just failed within hours/days.It's like in total mess.

End up the best and most stable ONT which was also the eastist to work with was the Huawei models.
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post Feb 2 2021, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Feb 2 2021, 04:51 PM)
NOT REALLY, There is a reason why TM uses different types of ONT because it depends on the type of equipment used in an area. For example, if an area there uses Huawei Technology, then the ONT used on the premises must be the same brand. If an area there uses FiberHome Technology, then the ONT used on the premises must be the same brand. Because there have been issues where the ONT used on the premises is often problematic due to the equipment used is not the same. For example, (Premises A) using Huawei brand ONTs have internet connection problems due to the equipment in the fiber cabinet is from FiberHome brand, as a solution, TM will change the ONT to the suitable ONT according to an area.
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Newer OLT models nowadays allow universal ONT (fibre modem) matching due to stricter GPON standardization.

There're cases in some areas now where TM will swap different brands of ONTs(fibre modems) with their customers according to the stocks they have in hand.
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post Feb 3 2021, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Feb 3 2021, 12:06 AM)

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Look at the generosity of TNB Allo's placement of FDPs compared to TM's.

Easily no less than 5 FDPs for each backlane, each with 8 ports available inside.

That's more than 40 ports available for interested subscribers. The houses/premises there can at least have more than 2 lines each of different ISPs if they needed.
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post Feb 3 2021, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Feb 3 2021, 01:06 AM)
May I know, why did you say that?

in terms of fibre optic infra, penang has various infra such as TM Fiber, TIME fiber and the latest iSP is Gigabit Fiber. Other states mostly rely on Infra TM Fiber only. This is good news for those states as their states now have Infra Fiber from companies other than TM
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TNB Allo deployments are more focused towards landed homes and individual properties.

The other alternative ISPs are more interested in bringing fibre to buildings, such as TIME and Gigabit Fibre.
Their setup is more of a single centralized 1:32 splitter installed at the building riser and homerun all the way to each individual units instead of double level cascaded splitting used for landed homes/shops.

Scalability wise, landed deployments are much easier because you don't have to go through all the hassle dealing with the building JMB or developer to make changes. The ISP has full access over its infra from the FDC, utility poles and FDPs. The investment costs however is much higher but I'm sure big companies such as TNB can afford it.

Centralized splitting has one advantage over 2 layer cascaded splitting though - LESS insertion loss because you only need 1 1:32 to split the line. However the additional couplers and FDPs which run to each building floors also adds up to the loss so the difference is quite minimal.

EDIT: Noticed BG is using the more expensive white coloured FDP boxes. thumbup.gif

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post Feb 3 2021, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(jimmythw @ Feb 3 2021, 01:57 AM)
Each FDP port is got 8 port inside. But only 6 is provide to use and 2 of it is for emergency or backup port. Allo is provided each FDP for 6 houses in one pole. So 5 poles is cover 30 house or sometimes less than 30 house. Allo is provide more than enough.
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As you can see in the pics you've posted. There're as many as 4 Allo FDPs serving the homes there vs only 1 TM FDP. That is as much as a 4:1 ratio in terms of port availability.
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post Feb 8 2021, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(ZyD86 @ Feb 7 2021, 06:24 PM)
Hope the generosity will remain after it cover nationwide including sabah & sarawak..
need more choice of ISP..
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TNB doesn't cover Sabah and Sarawak, they've their own state run electricity utility companies there such as SESB and Sarawak Energy.
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post Feb 8 2021, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZyD86 @ Feb 8 2021, 02:09 PM)
Is this thread discussing about electricity? Are Allo ride on the electricity cable?  hmm.gif
It is no issue if they wanted to expand Allo to the Sabah and Sarawak. ISP is not Electricity Provider.
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TNB Allo fiber optics infra is part of TNB business.
They lay their fibre optical cables along their electricity grid cables around Peninsula Malaysia.
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post Feb 8 2021, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZyD86 @ Feb 8 2021, 02:16 PM)
Such a pity if Sabah & Sarawak not letting Allo to come to their state.. sad.gif
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Their respective state governments are preventing them from doing so not TNB doesn't want to come.

They insist on building their own infra and retaining revenues to themselves instead of wanting to share it with West Malaysia.
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QUOTE(ZyD86 @ Feb 8 2021, 06:10 PM)
Confirm related with politics..haiz..
TM not blocked, TNB blocked.. doh.gif
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Sabah actually for its own open fibre network just like TNB Allo it's called Celcom Timur which you can subscribe to different ISPs such as DiGi Home Fibre and Maxis Fibre upto 1Gbps.

Sarawak has their own open fibre network as well it's called SACOFA which runs its own fibre network for last mile called SOFIA(SACOFA Open Fibre Infra Access).
http://www.sacofa.com.my/web/index.php/ser...sp-dia-overview

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post Feb 18 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ivanfwc @ Feb 18 2021, 12:01 AM)
Is there any news that allo is going to expand to my taman which is taman ipoh. Because recently, 2 weeks ago I saw tm contractor laying their fibre all over my taman and already set up the fdp box on the pole, so I'm not sure is allo coming or not, if not then I most probably going to get Uxxxi for the next 2 years until allo came.
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Better not to wait but have your fingers crossed.

There's a huge pile of backlogs and new areas outside TNB Allo will be heading after this. Chances are very slim if Unifi is already available in your area. Priority will always be given first to those which do not have fibre covered yet through the NFCP plan.

They're now moving into Kulim, Sg Petani, Penang Mainland, Johor and probably returning to Selangor/KV before returning to Ipoh after this.

Some areas were very lucky though to have 2 infra coverage because they were initially planned out by TNB to cover after years of waiting without TM expanding there. When TM found out Allo were expanding there, they quickly set up FDPs there but it was already too late Allo will still push ahead with their planned buildouts.

So it was silly for TM to last minute try to "flog a dead horse" at the last minute.

My situation is similar to yours being located around Pasir Puteh/Tebing Tinggi area here.Unifi already have most areas covered for close to 10 years.

Until now a HUGE portion of housing gardens behind Taman Shatin(surrounding SK Kg Pasir Puteh) still NO Unifi and the copper telephone wires are all so old it's like ancient rotting relics lying around.

You must also understand the economic situation now of our country with restricted funding. Even if so, they'll place strategic priority with political reasoning behind their plans when there's so much business to be made in Ipoh CBD core area, Ipoh Gardens and Pasir Putih/Pinji area?

Why do you think they chose areas like Ampang/Rokam, Meru/Jelapang and Batu Gajah instead even when they already have existing very good Unifi coverage?

Political and demographics influences a big part of the decision making.

You have better chances waiting for 5G instead since telcos now are banking hopes now to deliver their own last mile infra. The reason why big telcos such as Maxis, DiGi or Umobile are reluctant to build their own fibre networks today is because of the L3 wholesale network sharing which is less attractive. They want to build their OWN network entire for themselves end to end to their customers because they have better control over their pricing and coverage expansion even if they need to just rent dark fibres to reach the their desired areas.

Something like this:

免拉線+上網快+Wi-Fi 6 SmarTone Home 5G寬頻 HKD$148/mth

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Feb 17 2021, 11:53 PM)
Finally..

October 2020 -> TNB/Allo setup poles at Taman
November 2020 -> Lay fiber cable
December 220 -> Install FDP & FDC
January 2021 -> Lay fiber cable from their server to FDC
February 2021 -> Fiber Installation work begin at subscriber's home

So far the speed is good, the ping was 24ms at first but now is below 10ms.
Also am i getting private ip instead of public ip..?🤔
Coz on router is 10.83.XX.XXX, while on browser is 202.168.XX.XXX
Nice setup looks way more professional than TM's standard installation with a wall socket box.
Have you tried requesting for public IP from them? What were their feedbacks?

Also how are the speeds to surrounding regions? SG, Japan, US and Europe?

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Feb 18 2021, 05:31 PM)
Actually, this is temporary setup at the Kitchen area near the entry point. The actual plan was to install the equipment at the TV cabinet but the contractors does not have proper tools to pull the cable through the ceilings which has some obstacle so will try to do it myself or have to find wiremen to do it properly.
The complete setup does come with wall socket but since it is temporary so they didn't install it, only use the SC connector from the wall socket box to connect both fiber cable.

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So to those who going to subscribe to Allo better to plan properly & make sure the route to ur preferred location for the equipments is clear of obstacles.

Been trying to contact Allo since yesterday regarding the IP issue but unsuccessful so will be emailing them on this issue.

Speed test (wifi only):
ServerPing(ms)Download(Mbps)Upload(Mbps)
SG, Viewqwest1352.452.6
JP, Rokuten Mobile11152.950.9
US, Los Angeles19953.249.9
EU, Orange French21353.047.2
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Quite nice the speed results except for the Japanese server with 111ms pings.
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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Feb 18 2021, 05:50 PM)
Did the test again for the same server and now the ping is 83ms with 52.6(d/l) & 51.7(u/l)
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Yes, that should around that range to Japan. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Feb 21 2021, 05:19 PM)
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Those poles look more like TNB Allo utility poles.

TM poles are usually shorter and smaller in diameter.
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QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Feb 21 2021, 10:06 PM)
Asked local TM agent, Unifi adding extra ports
Not Allo  rclxub.gif
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This is psychology and attempt to prevent lost of sales lead.

Even if the poles belong to some other operators/utility company they will not admit it because they don't want potential future customers to wait for Allo instead if good news breaks out.

Just like many dishonest stores/mini markets around my area. When you ask them if they stock certain brands of items instead of them saying honestly that no we don't stock such brand they'd go on and say this brand? We already ran out of stock, come back next time!

Why they do so, it's because they don't want to close any future opportunity for you from returning to his shop in future and turning you down leaving you with bad impression on their part.
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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Feb 25 2021, 10:23 PM)
unifi was been great at before this, problem start when 1st MCO starting March 2020 then keep on and off having issue on their international link till today.

even i been feedback numerous of time to them that their international seriously congested but they dont care even simply saying is not their problem and keep pushing the issue back to customer with many funny excuses which is ridiculous.

i also wait my contract up to move other provider and i also waiting Allo arriving to my place.

i receive news that EU link will be back on service by mid march onwards. hope is true
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Hahaha even Maxis also adopting that don't care attitude. Guess there's no perfect ISP who is serious in this business.

All only interested in maintaining ARPU or increasing without making efforts to do upgrades to keep up with customers demand.


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QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Feb 27 2021, 01:16 PM)
Still need to pay anyway, looking for "alternative methods" at the moment
Prefer not paying for something I didnt use rclxms.gif
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I know a lot of people they rather default and stop paying TM after getting mischarged and overbilled.

They never returned to TM after even when the financial situation improves to clear their arrears/debts.

There are still telcos out there which still take in TM blacklisted customers even for fixed line services with the condition they either sign up for postpaid services with down payments etc.
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QUOTE(wchsam92 @ Feb 27 2021, 11:38 AM)
There you go, is it any good?
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Both Allo City Broadband and Maxis actually shares the same wholesale carrier ISP which is NTT Asia.

They would route to SG and usually the paths thereafter will be exactly the same.

NTT is currently experiencing major congestion with few of its European exit nodes.
Their Milan exit nodes especially which is the gateway to Central Europe coming in from Asia is currently registering VERY HIGH traffic over the weekend.

That is the source of their bottleneck which makes most of their European latency >260ms. Some as high as over 300ms.
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Feb 28 2021, 02:07 PM)
any1 experienced connection drop to certain server located in SG? access to other website outside of malaysia is fine, but when i'm playing black desert online SEA i get intermittent connection every few hours. Tried on Maxis mobile, no such thing happen.
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Has something more to do with CGNAT private IP leased time reset?
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Feb 28 2021, 09:57 PM)
Is this configurable on user end?
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All you can set in your WAN PPPoE account settings is "Always Connected". Other than that you've no control over the ISP's edge router/server end which assigns the IP.

Check your modem's first to make sure.

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