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 Prepaid Unlimited Data & Call Price War 2020, Who will be the winner

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Sansab
post Jun 16 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(drcro @ Jun 16 2020, 02:49 PM)
But its clearly auto renewal... I think once we subcribe,its secure...
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Yeh but thats what they did in the past too, and still end up eliminate the whole thing.
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post Jun 16 2020, 03:11 PM

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first they gave you free quota for 3 months to hook you, now you have addicted to it, they launch new product to milk you.
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post Jun 16 2020, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(happyking4ever @ Jun 16 2020, 03:11 PM)
first they gave you free quota for 3 months to hook you, now you have addicted to it, they launch new product to milk you.
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Yup. Old prepaid plan is always better than new one.
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post Jun 17 2020, 02:07 AM

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Final giant (DIGI) going to battle with other giant telco. I wonder what will happen to mouse size telco after this. Get step by the giant.
Hopefully Digi come out with the best plan for all prepaid and postpaid user like us...



https://www.lowyat.net/2020/215178/digi-pre...-system-glitch/

https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/06/16/digi-...35-coming-soon/
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post Jun 17 2020, 08:27 AM

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FYI T-Mobile in the US explaining why their "unlimited" plans may be throttled at 50GB:

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/mydatausage
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post Jun 17 2020, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(tympg @ Jun 17 2020, 08:27 AM)
FYI T-Mobile in the US explaining why their "unlimited" plans may be throttled at 50GB:

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/mydatausage
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That common explanation by celcos is likely not true. Mobile broadband network congestion can be "easily" solved by erecting more cell towers in a congested area or by limiting the number of subscribers in an area.
....... How come TM Unifi Home Fiber, Unifi Air 4G modem plan and Unifi Mobile prepaid 4G Bebas Weekly can give truly unlimited data to its millions of subscribers, ie there are no monthly FUP limits and subsequent throttling.?

Nearly all celcos in Malaysia have to pay the monopoly TM HSBB Fiber company wholesale prices of about RM13 per 100GB for Internet data, ie in order for their 4G/3G subscribers to connect to the world wide web or www in the background, ie through TM HSBB Fiber network. This is the main reason nearly all celcos impose monthly FUP limits. The other reason is to maximize profits by overselling 4G plans to subscribers and declining to erect more cell towers in congested areas.
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post Jun 17 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020, 01:09 PM)
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That common explanation by celcos is likely not true. Mobile broadband network congestion can be "easily" solved by erecting more cell towers in a congested area or by limiting the number of subscribers in an area.
....... How come TM Unifi Home Fiber, Unifi Air 4G modem plan and Unifi Mobile prepaid 4G Bebas Weekly can give truly unlimited data to its millions of subscribers, ie there are no monthly FUP limits and subsequent throttling.?

Nearly all celcos in Malaysia have to pay the monopoly TM HSBB Fiber company wholesale prices of about RM13 per 100GB for Internet data, ie in order for their 4G/3G subscribers to connect to the world wide web or www in the background, ie through TM HSBB Fiber network. This is the main reason nearly all celcos impose monthly FUP limits. The other reason is to maximize profits by overselling 4G plans to subscribers and declining to erect more cell towers in congested areas.
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Which mean cost per 1 GB is RM0.13 ?
50 GB FUP = Rm6.5

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post Jun 17 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(bryon @ Jun 17 2020, 02:15 PM)
Which mean cost per 1 GB is RM0.13 ?
50 GB FUP = Rm6.5
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Example;

When Maxis HUP35 (= RM30 per month) subscribers haved used up 50GB of data, they will be throttled to 0.5Mbps for the rest of the month. At 0.5Mbps, the subscribers can still use about another 40GB to 190GB of data by doing a lot of video-streaming at 240p on their phones.

The celcos make less money from heavy-data-users, even by imposing monthly FUP limits.
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post Jun 17 2020, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020, 03:02 PM)
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Example;

When Maxis HUP35 (= RM30 per month) subscribers haved used up 50GB of data, they will be throttled to 0.5Mbps for the rest of the month. At 0.5Mbps, the subscribers can still use about another 40GB to 190GB of data by doing a lot of video-streaming at 240p on their phones.

The celcos make less money from heavy-data-users, even by imposing monthly FUP limits.
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I still don't understand what you mean.
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post Jun 17 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020, 03:02 PM)
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Example;

When Maxis HUP35 (= RM30 per month) subscribers haved used up 50GB of data, they will be throttled to 0.5Mbps for the rest of the month. At 0.5Mbps, the subscribers can still use about another 40GB to 190GB of data by doing a lot of video-streaming at 240p on their phones.

The celcos make less money from heavy-data-users, even by imposing monthly FUP limits.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Jun 17 2020, 07:32 PM)
I still don't understand what you mean.
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Let's say a Maxis HUP35 subscriber used 50GB of data on the 1st day by streaming videos at 1080p/3Mbps(= uses about 3GB per hour) for about 17 hours non-stop. For the next 29 days, he will be throttled by Maxis from 3Mbps to 0.5Mbps or 512kbps.

At 0.5Mbps, he can still stream videos at 240p = uses about 200MB per hour. Let's say, he again stream videos at 240p for 15 hours a day = 3GB per day = 87GB for 29 days.

So, total data used by him for 30 days is 50 + 87 = 137GB = the subscriber's heavy-data-use costs Maxis about RM18 in wholesale price that has to be paid to the monopoly TM HSBB Fiber company.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 17 2020, 09:44 PM
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post Jun 17 2020, 10:28 PM

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Breaking News !

The Unofficial FUP Limit for UM GX38 is....

Quota Reported by Various Tools
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Connection speed AFTER FUP Limit :
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Connection speed BEFORE FUP Limit :
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Connection for "High-Speed" quota :
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p/s : TS may pin this info on Page 1 if necessary...

This post has been edited by azhar75: Jun 17 2020, 10:38 PM
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post Jun 17 2020, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Jun 17 2020, 10:28 PM)
Breaking News !

The Unofficial FUP Limit for UM GX38 is....

Quota Reported by Various Tools
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image

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Connection speed AFTER FUP Limit :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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Connection speed BEFORE FUP Limit :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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Connection for "High-Speed" quota :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


p/s : TS may pin this info on Page 1 if necessary...
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Seems, subscribers, including myself, are having network issues with UMobile since 6pm tonight, ie very slow Internet. Just now, I couldn't even do a speedtest with my GX50 at www.speedtest.net. Maybe your above report has been affected by this issue. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=97177868
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Update: I was able to do the speedtest at www.speedtest.net just now at about 11:30pm = 10.12Mbps d/l and 5.90Mbps u/l. Seems, things are getting back to normal with UMobile's network. .......
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9620301695
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 17 2020, 11:39 PM
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=97174883
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post Jun 18 2020, 01:13 AM

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The snail is even faster than 64kbps...

While mostly sleeping in the middle of the "night", the 240P YouTube cannot be played without buffering every 10 seconds once GX38's 80GB FUP Limit is achieved:

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Must stream at 144P for smooth playback...

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And more unfortunate news is the throttling also affected the 6GB "free" Hotspot Quota for GX38 once the 80GB FUP Limit is achieved:

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Celcom is winning for someone that uses data more than 1.67GB and 2.67GB a day. 🤭
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post Jun 18 2020, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Jun 17 2020, 10:28 PM)
Breaking News !

The Unofficial FUP Limit for UM GX38 is....

Quota Reported by Various Tools
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image

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Connection speed AFTER FUP Limit :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


.
Connection speed BEFORE FUP Limit :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


.
Connection for "High-Speed" quota :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


p/s : TS may pin this info on Page 1 if necessary...
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How to pin? I am not familiar with the forum code and function

This post has been edited by GEN.2: Jun 18 2020, 02:17 AM
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post Jun 18 2020, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020, 11:15 PM)
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Seems, subscribers, including myself, are having network issues with UMobile since 6pm tonight, ie very slow Internet. Just now, I couldn't even do a speedtest with my GX50 at www.speedtest.net. Maybe your above report has been affected by this issue. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=97177868
.

Update: I was able to do the speedtest at www.speedtest.net just now at about 11:30pm = 10.12Mbps d/l and 5.90Mbps u/l. Seems, things are getting back to normal with UMobile's network. .......
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9620301695
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My GX30 in Ipoh did not have such problems during that time.
I still can watch 606p dramas like normal.

10Mbps download speed? I think new GX50 speed is 10Mbps (×2 on 5Mbps) now after U Mobile revamped its GX unlimited data plans.
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post Jun 18 2020, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020 @ 11:15 PM)
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Seems, subscribers, including myself, are having network issues with UMobile since 6pm tonight, ie very slow Internet. Just now, I couldn't even do a speedtest with my GX50 at www.speedtest.net. Maybe your above report has been affected by this issue. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=97177868
.

Update: I was able to do the speedtest at www.speedtest.net just now at about 11:30pm = 10.12Mbps d/l and 5.90Mbps u/l. Seems, things are getting back to normal with UMobile's network. .......
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9620301695
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Jun 18 2020, 03:18 AM)
My GX30 in Ipoh did not have such problems during that time.
I still can watch 606p dramas like normal.

10Mbps download speed? I think new GX50 speed is 10Mbps (×2 on 5Mbps) now after U Mobile revamped its GX unlimited data plans.
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www.speedtest.net shows my maximum attainable d/l speed of about 10Mbps = not the 5Mbps speed given by UMobile's GX50 phone plan. In realtime monitoring with the Internet Speed Meter Lite app, my GX50 gives maximum 5Mbps most of the time but can occasionally reach up to 8Mbps during downloading of files and video-streaming.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 17 2020, 11:15 PM)
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Seems, subscribers, including myself, are having network issues with UMobile since 6pm tonight, ie very slow Internet. Just now, I couldn't even do a speedtest with my GX50 at www.speedtest.net. Maybe your above report has been affected by this issue. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=97177868
.

Update: I was able to do the speedtest at www.speedtest.net just now at about 11:30pm = 10.12Mbps d/l and 5.90Mbps u/l. Seems, things are getting back to normal with UMobile's network. .......
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9620301695
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Even using normal plan like p70 speed like crap. My game lagging like hell with the delay

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