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leewaihoe
post Aug 11 2020, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 11 2020, 12:02 AM)
Arcoris? Nope. It is as good or as bad as any other MK condo of late.

Plenty of units have been empty since VP without tenants. Most are struggling to get a viewing and my family's unit is one of those that has yet to have a tenant since VP and no sign of that changing anytime soon as we have not even had an enquiry on it since October. While the enquiries we did have prior were mainly time wasters or other agents. Good thing we had DIBS and we bought it mainly by selling off a unit at MK Bayu.

I thought you were buying for immediate stay, I would not buy a condo today if I wanted to live in it 10 years from now as by 5 years most condos look aged and feel as if everything is on the verge of falling apart. Better to put money in a landed house and in 10 years time either live in it or sell it off and then buy a newer condo.
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I had the impression that Arcoris was 80% occupied. I was told by a SA. You have a unit in Arcoris?

Yeah I think you’ve raised a good point. Making me reconsider this decision. I’ve considered buying landed, but something that’s new is also very far from the city. MK location is really very good.

For the units that you have in MK, how has the maintenance been? I heard UEM is solid in this regard. Idk about Trinity though.

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post Aug 11 2020, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(leewaihoe @ Aug 11 2020, 12:18 AM)
I had the impression that Arcoris was 80% occupied. I was told by a SA. You have a unit in Arcoris?

Yeah I think you’ve raised a good point. Making me reconsider this decision. I’ve considered buying landed, but something that’s new is also very far from the city. MK location is really very good.

For the units that you have in MK, how has the maintenance been? I heard UEM is solid in this regard. Idk about Trinity though.
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It would be an owner's dream if it had an occupancy rate of 70% but occupancy is under 50% as of July. The unit belongs to the family trust, not mine personally.

The original Sunrise condos are very well built and very well maintained. This is especially the case with those that have a high percentage of owners and long term tenants, these tend to have a lot of big units within the project. However it will show its age in terms of the layout and facilities will also look used though not necessarily abused.

The newer ones by UEM are better built than other condos but not near as well built as the earlier ones. Maintenance are a hit and miss. Some are definitely better than others especially those with more owner occupiers.

In your situation, I would seriously look into buying a subsale landed DPC landed house instead of a MK condo.
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post Aug 11 2020, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 11 2020, 12:41 AM)
It would be an owner's dream if it had an occupancy rate of 70% but occupancy is under 50% as of July. The unit belongs to the family trust, not mine personally.

The original Sunrise condos are very well built and very well maintained. This is especially the case with those that have a high percentage of owners and long term tenants, these tend to have a lot of big units within the project. However it will show its age in terms of the layout and facilities will also look used though not necessarily abused.

The newer ones by UEM are better built than other condos but not near as well built as the earlier ones. Maintenance are a hit and miss. Some are definitely better  than others especially those with more owner occupiers.

In your situation, I would seriously look into buying a subsale landed DPC landed house instead of a MK condo.
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I’ll check that out. Not too keen on DPC as I think it’s quite far away from things, but I’ll just google and see.

The older condos that I saw were well maintained, but yeah I see your point about buildings showing age quickly. Ill have to speak to my partner about this again and see what she thinks.

What do you do for a living?
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post Aug 11 2020, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(leewaihoe @ Aug 11 2020, 12:54 AM)
I’ll check that out. Not too keen on DPC as I think it’s quite far away from things, but I’ll just google and see.

The older condos that I saw were well maintained, but yeah I see your point about buildings showing age quickly. Ill have to speak to my partner about this again and see what she thinks.

What do you do for a living?
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I am an operations manager for a German logistics company, Singapore based but now working remotely from KL. On the side I am a consultant petrol station manager and trainer for new petrol station dealers for 2 brands.

The reason why I suggested DPC landed is as Mark Twain once said buy land they are no longer making it. DPC is one of those places that there are keen interest to move there, no more new landed homes will be built there as all phases have been built and fully sold off.

DPC is just slightly further away from MK.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 11 2020, 01:04 AM)
I am an operations manager for a German logistics company, Singapore based but now working remotely from KL. On the side I am a consultant petrol station manager and trainer for new petrol station dealers for 2 brands.

The reason why I suggested DPC landed is as Mark Twain once said buy land they are no longer making it. DPC is one of those places that there are keen interest to move there, no more new landed homes will be built there as all phases have been built and fully sold off.

DPC is just slightly further away from MK.
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Another viable option if you can afford are the older houses in Sri Hartamas or Damansara Heights. You will need some funds for renovation etc, but locations are ideal.
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 08:05 AM)
Another viable option if you can afford are the older houses in Sri Hartamas or Damansara Heights. You will need some funds for renovation etc, but locations are ideal.
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I did consider that, but I estimated about 400k to get the house at least repaired. Cash flow is gonna be important in this economy and I’m trying spend as little upfront as I can.

That’s why I’ve mainly only looked at new launches or undercon projects which will help with cash flow.

Do you think that a condo is a bad purchase as well? As I’m looking to move in 7 years after completion.
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QUOTE(leewaihoe @ Aug 11 2020, 12:15 PM)
I did consider that, but I estimated about 400k to get the house at least repaired. Cash flow is gonna be important in this economy and I’m trying spend as little upfront as I can.

That’s why I’ve mainly only looked at new launches or undercon projects which will help with cash flow.

Do you think that a condo is a bad purchase as well? As I’m looking to move in 7 years after completion.
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Same here, the uncertainty is the exclusive JK4. Dunno how UEM will develop and will it connect to twy as previous plan?
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QUOTE(orenjuk @ Aug 11 2020, 05:03 PM)
Same here, the uncertainty is the exclusive JK4. Dunno how UEM will develop and will it connect to twy as previous plan?
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Yeah as it stand JK4 is really just a road for residents. Not much commercial activity on that road. Idk if it’s a good or bad thing haha
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QUOTE(leewaihoe @ Aug 11 2020, 05:51 PM)
Yeah as it stand JK4 is really just a road for residents. Not much commercial activity on that road. Idk if it’s a good or bad thing haha
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I like the fact that its quiet.
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:25 PM

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Not too sure about "quiet" and "not much commercial activity".

Have you seen the construction of kiara163 residence, soho, ooak? there will also be a hotel. the entrance is likely to be at JK4 I think.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1508291/+1020

http://ynhb.com.my/k163-hotel-suites

This worries me the most for JK4




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post Aug 11 2020, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:25 PM)
Not too sure about "quiet" and "not much commercial activity".

Have you seen the construction of kiara163 residence, soho, ooak? there will also be a hotel. the entrance is likely to be at JK4 I think.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1508291/+1020

http://ynhb.com.my/k163-hotel-suites

This worries me the most for JK4
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How come? Because allevia is deep inside/end of Jk4 whereas the commercial activities n busy part is at the beginning of the road. Don't think will have alot car come inside since there is a end road/not connection road. What you guys think?
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(orenjuk @ Aug 11 2020, 06:33 PM)
How come? Because allevia is deep inside/end of Jk4 whereas the commercial activities n busy part is at the beginning of the road. Don't think will have alot car come inside since there is a end road/not connection road. What you guys think?
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What about when you want to get in and get out to Allevia? I guess its the same as those living along main JK1 - they have to pass thru 1MK , Plaza MK, Kiara 163, Arcoris before reaching their homes.
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(orenjuk @ Aug 11 2020, 05:03 PM)
Same here, the uncertainty is the exclusive JK4. Dunno how UEM will develop and will it connect to twy as previous plan?
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DBKL master plan, yes, JK4 will become the main road all the way from Jalan Segambut Highway also connected Jalan Duta Kiara, Jalan Kiara 3.

Currently JK4 just extend by each project, maybe DBKL want save some cost, so DBKL only bare the balance JK4 cost😅😅😅
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:25 PM)
Not too sure about "quiet" and "not much commercial activity".

Have you seen the construction of kiara163 residence, soho, ooak? there will also be a hotel. the entrance is likely to be at JK4 I think.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1508291/+1020

http://ynhb.com.my/k163-hotel-suites

This worries me the most for JK4
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i think it no effect much for Sefina onward, coz JK4 163 there is 6lanes, but Cerian Kiara onward become 2lanes😅😅😅 just feel weird how it can be Main Road in the future with just 1+1 lanes from DBKL master plan
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:44 PM

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What concerns me is the "river" (or big longkang?) behind sefina, allevia ... see red line below.

Any possibility of overflowing during heavy thunder storm?


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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:38 PM)
What about when you want to get in and get out to Allevia? I guess its the same as those living along main JK1 - they have to pass thru 1MK , Plaza MK, Kiara 163, Arcoris before reaching their homes.
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Most of the MK peoples must pass Jalan Desa Kiara everyday😅😅😅
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post Aug 11 2020, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:44 PM)

What concerns me is the "river" (or big longkang?) behind sefina, allevia ... see red line below. 

Any possibility of overflowing during heavy thunder storm?
https://pictr.com/images/2020/08/11/76nDFv.jpg
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After view your picture something come up to me that if allevia over budget can consider the infront row, lol. inspirasi is good buy? Any idea?
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post Aug 11 2020, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:25 PM)
Not too sure about "quiet" and "not much commercial activity".

Have you seen the construction of kiara163 residence, soho, ooak? there will also be a hotel. the entrance is likely to be at JK4 I think.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1508291/+1020

http://ynhb.com.my/k163-hotel-suites

This worries me the most for JK4
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Sorry when I said commercial activity I meant shops. All the JK roads have some form of shops. JK5 has verve, JK3 has quite a lot, and of course JK1. JK4 is mainly residential, and if we need to get groceries, probably have to drive from allevia?

Can someone share the master plan? I didn’t know about all the road extensions.
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QUOTE(orenjuk @ Aug 11 2020, 07:19 PM)
After view your picture something come up to me that if allevia over budget can consider the infront row, lol. inspirasi is good buy? Any idea?
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The only leasehold in a freehold area. Entrance beside squatters. In long run no one knows what will happen
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post Aug 11 2020, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Aug 11 2020, 06:44 PM)
What concerns me is the "river" (or big longkang?) behind sefina, allevia ... see red line below.

Any possibility of overflowing during heavy thunder storm?
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MK no flooding, but over the NKVE there Segambut Dalam will flood when heavy raining, same longgang

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