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post May 23 2020, 07:42 PM, updated 6y ago

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Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.” 

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”


Read more: https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/m...on-s-permission

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Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Oo.
Basically murican stuff no matter how gooding and sophisticated no point if nid ask their permission first wen wan to deploy. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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ko rasa mamak nie nak serang sapa? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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oh... now i know why our jets cannot fly... not due to stolen engines.
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P.s. Malaysia is like budak kecik always complain why need follow mama papa rules. Sedangkan fama yang provide sara hidup. Ada hati mau berdikari, get out there and fucking do it, tak payah nak cakap banyak. Tak larat then sombong tu simpan skit, diam2 je lah makan gaji

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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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Means all US allies n themself will be identified as friendly, u can't target them, can't even fire a missile
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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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is this for real? any1 can confirm?
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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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That's the Tomcat F-14... not F-18
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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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They didnt give to u je la. We were never major NATO ally like Thailand they might have more trust
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post May 23 2020, 07:58 PM

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Penjilat Murica : kenapa nak attack country lain? mana bolih?

it is for your own good.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Ops daulat happen inside or outside malaysia?
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post May 23 2020, 07:59 PM

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french no problem ?
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post May 23 2020, 07:59 PM

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this was a long ago comment made during when he was still a PM B4 Badawi at LIMA air show


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post May 23 2020, 07:59 PM

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Anyway we buy fighter jet for LIMA. Served the purpose.
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post May 23 2020, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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bomb Suluk ok..

bukan kawan US

kalau nak bomb SG...memang tak boleh..
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F-18 is like Apple device. You can't install uknown apps or cracked apps (unless u r pro cracker/hacker). Seems to me the F-18 software provided to Malaysia has a lot of restriction. And to get source code? No way US gonna give the source code, someone can leak it to CCP and built their own F-18. So buy Russian planes (maybe Windows alike?) and crack it and install any programs u want.
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old man dont know what is "source code".

if got special "settings" i agree.

Microsoft also dont provide source code for Windows....
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post May 23 2020, 08:04 PM

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and not just Malaysia..

all countries who bought from Murica also cannot attack US allies/friends..

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post May 23 2020, 08:04 PM

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Nothing new. Wait till the eagles and do a synchronized dive due to "unknown failures" when don't like you.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 07:59 PM)
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few weapon supplier are not so restrictive

Rusian for example.. does not really bother who they sell it to exepct china which is copy cat

For western weapon, it more of you attack my allies, i will stop support. That how is iran F14 tomcat is. No official support but iran stil manage to keep tat bird flying themselves with local made spare parts.

I manage to get a chance to talk to a boeing sales person before. previously he was in the f18 pitch team

The saying tat american love if any one who bought their air craft keep buying more of their weapons and bombs. Tat how u make money
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Bomb negara sendiri masih OK kut.
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Errr.. who are we bombing with those f-18s?
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QUOTE(thpace @ May 23 2020, 08:05 PM)
few weapon supplier are not so restrictive

Rusian for example.. does not really bother who they sell it to exepct china which is copy cat

For western weapon, it more of you attack my allies, i will stop support. That how is iran F14 tomcat is. No official support but iran stil manage to keep tat bird flying themselves with local made spare parts.

I manage to get a chance to talk to a boeing sales person before. previously he was in the f18 pitch team

The saying tat american love if any one who bought their air craft keep buying more of their weapons and bombs. Tat how u make money
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:11 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago  laugh.gif
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dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 23 2020, 08:08 PM)
Errr.. who are we bombing with those f-18s?
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Want control go invent or hack yourself laa. Embarrassing ranting.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 23 2020, 08:14 PM)
dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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If we buy USA hardware
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means IFF locked izit? if cannot use live fire training program how?
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Oo.
Basically murican stuff no matter how gooding and sophisticated no point if nid ask their permission first wen wan to deploy. hmm.gif
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No wonder we didn’t buy more hornets
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QUOTE(sakaic @ May 23 2020, 08:04 PM)
Nothing new. Wait till the eagles and do a synchronized dive due to "unknown failures" when don't like you.
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I wonder if USA impose any restrictions on f 15 eagles of Israel
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QUOTE(john123x @ May 23 2020, 08:03 PM)
old man dont know what is "source code".

if got special "settings" i agree.

Microsoft also dont provide source code for Windows....
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You are wrong. MS showed the source code for their Windows OS to selected governments including Malaysia. They want these governments to trust them to use Windows machines
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missing engine ?

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 23 2020, 08:28 PM)
You are wrong. MS showed the source code for their Windows OS to selected governments including Malaysia. They want these governments to trust them to use Windows machines
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post May 23 2020, 08:36 PM

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Its no secret, if ayam not mistaken last time Indon jets had worst restriction
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Why not get hackers to reprogram the controller?
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For smaller countries like South East asean countries, one of the purpose of buying a weapon is for them to have some defensive threats against their neighbors. Mamakdei don't like buying weapon if it can't be a threat against our neighbors which is a legit point imo.

I don't think today generation care much about our neighbors threat because we share the same democratic values. Mahathir however live long enough to survive world war 2 period. His old mindset might be different. Not too long ago Indonesia tried ganyang Malaysia. He may be wary to our neighbors a lot more than us younger people
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ May 23 2020, 08:04 PM)
and not just Malaysia..

all countries who bought from Murica also cannot attack US allies/friends..
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Israel got the source code from American
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QUOTE(Matgolf @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
Its no secret, if ayam not mistaken last time Indon jets had worst restriction
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Guess they were afraid of Indon attacking Singapore or Australia.
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french no problem ?
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French....u give money, nuclear also they can provide.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:11 PM)
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so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago  laugh.gif
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China already copied the S-300 missile defense system and numerous obsolete jets that Russia sold to them. It's why Putin is reluctant to sell their highest end hardware to China. laugh.gif What's the point of a customer that buys moderate amounts of stuff and then turns around and stops buying once they finish making copycats?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
Why not get hackers to reprogram the controller?
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For a few planes, is it worth the risk. If we were selling the reverse engineered product then maybe got market. Plus after that munitions control another problem
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QUOTE(red streak @ May 23 2020, 08:47 PM)
China already copied the S-300 missile defense system and numerous obsolete jets that Russia sold to them. It's why Putin is reluctant to sell their highest end hardware to China.  laugh.gif What's the point of a customer that buys moderate amounts of stuff and then turns around and stops buying once they finish making copycats?
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They sold the s400 which is the most advance sam in the world atm
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QUOTE(red streak @ May 23 2020, 08:47 PM)
China already copied the S-300 missile defense system and numerous obsolete jets that Russia sold to them. It's why Putin is reluctant to sell their highest end hardware to China.  laugh.gif What's the point of a customer that buys moderate amounts of stuff and then turns around and stops buying once they finish making copycats?
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It means their stuff is low tech la
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Not news la.

Why buy from murica ... bmf.

Edit
Ill Sam didn't nod ... the plane can't even squirt water out.

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Hahahaah sendiri army sendiri xtau sedih
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when is this news/interviews?
why still state atuk as PM?
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US restricts it for all the fighter jets (and other military tech.) i believe. ten years ago there were news that F-35 codes were said to be not available even to the EU countries that co-financed it.

There were also news before that US offering some part of the codes to Japan to help them develop their own fighters.

Most likely they can overwrite controls anytime they want on the worst case.

So nothing new here.
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QUOTE(Matgolf @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
Its no secret, if ayam not mistaken last time Indon jets had worst restriction
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Till they gave Timor Leste independent, now they have 3 dozen of F16.
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QUOTE(azriel @ May 23 2020, 08:42 PM)
i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions


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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
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gudbye after sales support, including access to munitions.
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ May 23 2020, 08:55 PM)
They sold the s400 which is the most advance sam in the world atm
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After delaying for how long? Ruskie no choice cuz they got no money.

QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:58 PM)
It means their stuff is low tech la
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2nd in terms of military hardware in the world = low tech lol ok laugh.gif
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2nd in terms of military hardware in the world = low tech lol ok  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:16 PM)
i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions
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UK dont put the same restrictions on their tornado and typhoon?
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 07:57 PM)
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China already copied the S-300 missile defense system and numerous obsolete jets that Russia sold to them. It's why Putin is reluctant to sell their highest end hardware to China.  laugh.gif What's the point of a customer that buys moderate amounts of stuff and then turns around and stops buying once they finish making copycats?
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even the china latest aircraft carrier is retrofitted through old russian carrier
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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tu la
baru nak tanya

takkan time tu kita mintak US punya permission kot

I mean ok la, it's understandable kalau US impose restrictions untuk takleh attack countries yang jadi allies
tapi dalam agreement awal2 pon mesti kita ada mintak permission untuk attack neighbouring countries AT LEAST kan?

madey ni lama tol nyanyuk dia
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QUOTE(azriel @ May 23 2020, 07:42 PM)
tahun bila punya artikel depa recycle ni?

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The old man was either clearly misguided or utterly did not do his homework.

And so are all of you who believe him.

In the first place, do you even know what source codes are?

You do not need source codes to attack or defend yourself in a western jet.

Utter rubbish. The old man has doomed this country in more ways than you think...

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:11 PM)
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so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago  laugh.gif
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Copy easy paste susah
The Sukhoi copy of J-16 cannot even achieve 45% of original capability of the Su-30MKK that they used to copy with
only good thing about the J-16 is carrier based capability

QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 23 2020, 08:14 PM)
dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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All american product like that
During Lebanon war 06 between Israel and Lebanon
Some of Israel weapons and munition were flown overnight from Germany and some high fighter system capability are unlock when US approved when Tel Aviv requested


QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
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kenot do anything
OZ actually employ hacker to hack Hornet system
turn out they cannot do nothing without the system and weapons system that they unlock from the hack

so basically the source code given are only with what you have to use


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i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions
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Someone should remind Thanos of the A 4-Skyhawk clusterfuck during his administration.
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Copy easy paste susah
The Sukhoi copy of J-16 cannot even achieve 45% of original capability of the Su-30MKK that they used to copy with
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china told you? laugh.gif



edit : let me add more to this reply la.


1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.


but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 07:57 PM)
Excuses

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P.s. Malaysia is like budak kecik always complain why need follow mama papa rules. Sedangkan fama yang provide sara hidup. Ada hati mau berdikari, get out there and fucking do it, tak payah nak cakap banyak. Tak larat then sombong tu simpan skit, diam2 je lah makan gaji
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nice. doubt many can see the contrast on what you said against the iranian f14 backstory
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UK dont put the same restrictions on their tornado and typhoon?
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need to look at whos buying typhoon and tornado. so far UK only say kenot use UK made weapons for "internal suppression" ,like in case of indon bombing east timor using hawks so uk did arms embargoes to indon for quite some time
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Source codes are used to control weapon/radar integration, flight dynamics, etc. of the plane.

And why would Malaysia want the source codes? To install Russian weapons? Firstly, we do not have the money or experts to write and alter millions of aircraft coding. Secondly, there is a whole gamut of weapons and electronic support equipment which can be installed on such jets. When you buy a US/Euro jet you are buying into an entire ecosystem of military weapons and tech.

It has nothing to do with targets.

Please learn the basic.
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Yes sekarang I baru understand why Egypt cannot use their M1 tanks and apache to attack israel
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Israel will deactivates/switch off on-board computer, avionics and navigation system.

QUOTE(Pitiuran @ May 23 2020, 08:28 PM)
I wonder if USA impose any restrictions on f 15 eagles of Israel
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Israeli co-developed F-15 Eagle with McDonnell Douglas.

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I wonder if USA impose any restrictions on f 15 eagles of Israel
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wtf you dont know who is the master ?
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Those Iranians tomcats are older than me
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point is they are there

it's not utterly, completely, irretrievably useless - eg 1979 Iran Revolution, IrAF F-15 combat record is when?

also, I'm not just making a point about one single item or even solely in defence industry

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:40 PM)
need to look at whos buying typhoon and tornado. so far UK only say kenot use UK made weapons for "internal suppression" ,like in case of indon bombing east timor using hawks so uk did arms embargoes to indon for quite some time
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How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 23 2020, 09:42 PM)
Source codes are used to control weapon/radar integration, flight dynamics, etc. of the plane.

And why would Malaysia want the source codes? To install Russian weapons? Firstly, we do not have the money or experts to write and alter millions of aircraft coding. Secondly, there is a whole gamut of weapons and electronic support equipment which can be installed on such jets. When you buy a US/Euro jet you are buying into an entire ecosystem of military weapons and tech.

It has nothing to do with targets.

Please learn the basic.
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maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?


you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?


you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt laugh.gif



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How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif
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the war has been going on for 2 years.

im sure americans allowed that to happen.

to sell more weapons.
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How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 09:50 PM)
point is they are there

it's not utterly, completely, irretrievably useless - eg 1979 Iran Revolution, IrAF F-15 combat record is when?

also, I'm not just making a point about one single item or even solely in defence industry
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Not refuting your point, just making a statement that something that old can still be in service
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Why need source code?

That's the last piece of the puzzle for thr kereta terbang la.

Mana kereta terbang tu?
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why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of
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more different product = more supplier = more agent = more commission spread out to more crony, same story with us, and better still if change more equipment more often

buying from UK instead of US is pointless since they are each other's closest allies, 1 embargo the other sure follow. as the Argentinians learned in 1982

end of the day, if we want to go independent, just go and prove ourselves. but if we are forced to beg people from help, don't muka hitam, don't need to talk so much cock and bite the hand that feeds

if Malaysia benci sangat can just give back those Scaneagles whistling.gif

QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ May 23 2020, 09:52 PM)
Not refuting your point, just making a statement that something that old can still be in service
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oh sorry

black market parts and LOTS of cannibalisation. also debatably still in service now - from 80 aircraft plus spares can't be more than maybe 10-15 operational now.

but they did great vs Iraqis

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:51 PM)
maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?
you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?
you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt  laugh.gif
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Otherwise, you can do your own research.

I will just leave it here.


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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
china told you?  laugh.gif
edit : let me add more to this reply la.
1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.
but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.
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I make a mistake the Carrier based Shenyang is J-15
my apologies to you

as for J16, they do have much superior radar with AESA radar and electronic due to it was made for electronic warfare
unfortunately I have to disagree on WS-10 engine
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 10:58 PM)
songlap

more different product = more supplier = more agent = more commission spread out to more crony, same story with us, and better still if change more equipment more often

buying from UK instead of US is pointless since they are each other's closest allies, 1 embargo the other sure follow. as the Argentinians learned in 1982

end of the day, if we want to go independent, just go and prove ourselves. but if we are forced to beg people from help, don't muka hitam, don't need to talk so much cock and bite the hand that feeds

if Malaysia benci sangat can just give back those Scaneagles whistling.gif
oh sorry

black market parts and LOTS of cannibalisation. also debatably still in service now - from 80 aircraft plus spares can't be more than maybe 10-15 operational now.

but they did great vs Iraqis
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lolol yindia got embargoed by us for quitesome time becos nuke yet diorang beli uk stuff xde hal pun
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So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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Talk what also no use if the jet have no jet engine.

Btw ... have our jet engine back from Argentina ?
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It is common sense what, there's always a restriction, the more kuat jilat murica butt then lesser restriction but also depend on geopolitics too.
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Only Mahathir dare to speak up, which other just keep silent.
Thats why Mahathir is always label as controversial person & anti-america.
i believe in him in non-politic statement, even though i may not be agree all with his statement in politic.

America Gov is smart , at least they sell u the weapon, hopefully u dun used against them.
America Gov is also holding the last card (back-door card) eg Boeing, computer ,server ,telecommunication, andriod , apple
Imagine we ned to ask for sms password from USA, when we wun to fire rifle which we buy from them doh.gif
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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It is true, there's always have certain degree of restriction.

Turkey no longer in f35 country list

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I'm sure they built some backdoors into their military equipment. Backdoors that allow them to sabotage or disable the military equipment if for example, you use it to attack them.

That is why the countries that manufacture their own military equipment are light years ahead of other countries that don't - The superpowers of the world.
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maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?
you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?
you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt  laugh.gif
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what to question when we have answered regarding this ages ago
old news mau cerita buat apa lagi
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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political agreement

USA : u wun me to protect u , sell me ur oil cheaply but partly ned to contra with Military Equipment

USA is a powerful military nation (smart businessman), freedom fighters doesn't comes free .

USA loves oil nation, they will come to help u if u have domestic problem devil.gif .
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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maybe in 97/98 but not anymore
with the amount of upgrade the FA-18 get for free with FMS money it is one of the most versatile fighter in the RMAF right now
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Tun M is truely one of the highest wisdom world class leader in human history...

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u think america will build and sell something that can be use to destroy them back?
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 23 2020, 09:34 PM)
The old man was either clearly misguided or utterly did not do his homework.

And so are all of you who believe him.

In the first place, do you even know what source codes are?

You do not need source codes to attack or defend yourself in a western jet.

Utter rubbish. The old man has doomed this country in more ways than you think...
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he isnt lying, and Malaysia isn't the only one.

You can google it.

US doesn't allow their exported jets to be used unless otherwise authorized by the US. Their jets are basically very restricted

I've read somewhere that these jets cannot target American jets. Not sure if it's extended to all American-made jets, and not just jets from US. I read about this long ago before Mahathir even made this statement.

Yeah he probably did not meant source code (he's not a programmer after all).

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Wanna integrate non standard weapons can also...just need to pay Boeing to do it.
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F-18 is like Apple device. You can't install uknown apps or cracked apps (unless u r pro cracker/hacker). Seems to me the F-18 software provided to Malaysia has a lot of restriction. And to get source code? No way US gonna give the source code, someone can leak it to CCP and built their own F-18. So buy Russian planes (maybe Windows alike?) and crack it and install any programs u want.
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Meanwhile russian fighter jet is like pirated windows get all virus


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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 23 2020, 10:46 PM)
he isnt lying, and Malaysia isn't the only one.

You can google it.

US doesn't allow their exported jets to be used unless otherwise authorized by the US. Their jets are basically very restricted

I've read somewhere that these jets cannot target American jets. Not sure if it's extended to all American-made jets, and not just jets from US. I read about this long ago before Mahathir even made this statement.

Yeah he probably did not meant source code (he's not a programmer after all).
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yeah he did not lying except that is the situation in the late 90s
plus the interceptor role and air superiority during the 90s is held by the MIG squadron

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 23 2020, 11:11 PM)
Wanna integrate non standard weapons can also...just need to pay Boeing to do it.
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yes, but all mesti go thru US congress first too
I believe I;ve mention before for the Hornet even to dispose parts with serial no. i.e some type of screw also needed to be documented
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yeah he did not lying except that is the situation in the late 90s
plus the interceptor role and air superiority during the 90s is held by the MIG squadron
yes, but all mesti go thru US congress first too
I believe I;ve mention before for the Hornet even to dispose parts with serial no. i.e some type of screw also needed to be documented
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late 90s?

so now Malaysia have full control on F18?

can bomb anyone, anytime ?

laugh.gif

until last year, F16 of pakistan still have such restriction.


but im sure malaysia way better than pakistan innocent.gif
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I've read somewhere that these jets cannot target American jets. Not sure if it's extended to all American-made jets, and not just jets from US. I read about this long ago before Mahathir even made this statement.


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IFF Code restriction maybe, i dont know, i stopped being a mil fag long time already laugh.gif


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What happen to our flying car project now?
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
china told you?  laugh.gif
edit : let me add more to this reply la.
1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.
but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.
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Lol
Unconfirmed reports claimed the first flight of the J-11D was powered by a new WS-10 variant; the variant reportedly had improved reliability, with a thrust of more than 13t, but less than that of the AL-31F-M1. The flight was revealed in early May 2015.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10
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lolol yindia got embargoed by us for quitesome time becos nuke yet diorang beli uk stuff  xde hal pun
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Lolwut

Firstly, records of embargoes are published and easily accessed, you go see if India has been embargoed

Furthermore US India defence relations have been climbing since at least 2005 and now are at an all time high
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 23 2020, 10:31 PM)
maybe in 97/98 but not anymore
with the amount of upgrade the FA-18 get for free with FMS money it is one of the most versatile fighter in the RMAF right now
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Oh okay, that means they can only pull back support in software/hardware maintenance and also ammunition and put sanctions in worse case scenario...
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ May 23 2020, 11:29 PM)
Lol
Unconfirmed reports claimed the first flight of the J-11D was powered by a new WS-10 variant; the variant reportedly had improved reliability, with a thrust of more than 13t, but less than that of the AL-31F-M1. The flight was revealed in early May 2015.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10
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why laugh?



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why laugh?
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coz PRC butlicker gip wrong info.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 23 2020, 10:46 PM)
he isnt lying, and Malaysia isn't the only one.

You can google it.

US doesn't allow their exported jets to be used unless otherwise authorized by the US. Their jets are basically very restricted

I've read somewhere that these jets cannot target American jets. Not sure if it's extended to all American-made jets, and not just jets from US. I read about this long ago before Mahathir even made this statement.

Yeah he probably did not meant source code (he's not a programmer after all).
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Madey is telling half truths

Yes control is limited

No it doesnt mean you can't use it to attack US or US-made assets

You may have partly limited functionality and you will definitely incur their blacklisting (no shit!) if you go against their interests

But it's not UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE. Hell if it's physically impossible then there will be no such thing as blue on blue!

Those "sources" you read are to be blunt bullshit

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Wanna integrate non standard weapons can also...just need to pay Boeing to do it.
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Boring still has to go through US Govt strictly speaking

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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ May 23 2020, 11:32 PM)
coz PRC butlicker gip wrong info.
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let me guess, you didnt know which version of AL31 SU30mkk is using right?

adik.

your stupidity is laughable.


stop licking your own finger after removing it from anus la.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:18 PM)
late 90s?

so now Malaysia have full control on F18?

can bomb anyone, anytime ?

  laugh.gif

until last year, F16 of pakistan still have such restriction.
but im sure malaysia way better than pakistan  innocent.gif
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if you actually follow the RMAF as diligently you follow PLAAF then you should know that the Hornet only commissioned into RMAF service in 1996
and training and familiarization took about a year + before the squadron are fully operational and since then they have been heavily upgraded in order to keep up the current issue and geo political in the area.

And yes we have full control off all the legacy's weapons and thanks to China's presence in the Asean sea with Spratly issue the US have even very generous with the weapons system and support that most TUDM can only dream off in the early 2000.

Pakistani restriction issue is not even the same with Malaysia the political relation with India pretty much sums it all up
even stated during the procurement of the F16 that the bird cannot be used in military issue with India and the reason why the US are investigating the downed of the India MIG as they believed that the F16 is the one that fired the missile. But most of us do think that the bird was the aggressor in that incident that lead to the dawned of the IAF MIG-21
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No aircraft carrier also no need F-18.
F-16 is actually the better fighter.
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ May 23 2020, 11:29 PM)
Lol
Unconfirmed reports claimed the first flight of the J-11D was powered by a new WS-10 variant; the variant reportedly had improved reliability, with a thrust of more than 13t, but less than that of the AL-31F-M1. The flight was revealed in early May 2015.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10
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correct there is still some major issue with the ws-10 engine
but in time they could be corrected
but for sure not in the near future but not too long
the ws10 are not affected the J16 more the the J15 due to the doctrine as the J16 is a land bound fighter while the J15 is a carrier bound fighter.

QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 11:30 PM)
Oh okay, that means they can only pull back support in software/hardware maintenance and also ammunition and put sanctions in worse case scenario...
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All US hardware also like that even the closer ally like the even the Japan and Korea and NATO nation
but unsure about Israel but US still restricted some of the munition for the IDF only to be releases when conflict happened

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 23 2020, 11:40 PM)
if you actually follow the RMAF as diligently you follow PLAAF then you should know that the Hornet only commissioned into RMAF service in 1996
and training and familiarization took about a year + before the squadron are fully operational and since then they have been heavily upgraded in order to keep up the current issue and geo political in the area.

And yes we have full control off all the legacy's weapons and thanks to China's presence in the Asean sea with Spratly issue the US have even very generous with the weapons system and support that most TUDM can only dream off in the early 2000.

Pakistani restriction issue is not even the same with Malaysia the political relation with India pretty much sums it all up
even stated during the procurement of the F16 that the bird cannot be used in military issue with India and the reason why the US are investigating the downed of the India MIG as they believed that the F16 is the one that fired the missile. But most of us do think that the bird was the aggressor in that incident that lead to the dawned of the IAF MIG-21
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noice, are you saying if the hornets could be better if they were commissioned early? or later? well they cant sell that until they have super hornet for themselves isnt it.

obviously US is ready to equipment malaysia with better support. i hope you understand the meaning of proxy war brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

and we all know how peaceful india is after invasion of sikkim and kashmir as well. innocent.gif


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 23 2020, 11:46 PM)
correct there is still some major issue with the ws-10 engine

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obviously your spies in PLA told you that. innocent.gif innocent.gif innocent.gif
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if you actually follow the RMAF as diligently you follow PLAAF

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ May 23 2020, 11:44 PM)
No aircraft carrier also no need F-18.
F-16 is actually the better fighter.
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Depends what model

Ours have been quite well-upgraded
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no withstanding you are pro mahathir or not. there is always some truth to his statement. you may not like it but you only realise it when it knocks on your very head. imagine that what he is saying is like the ECU of your civic turbo engine. tune to 173 hp. then imagine with just software fix it can go up to 193hp in the HRV which has basically the same engine. you think honda will allow you to have the source code to manipulate on your own. same like USA. you think they allow you freely to use the plane you buy from them. imagine the same now with the 5G network. China is the 1st to have it. that's why USA will try it utmost to block it's widespread, becos whoever possess it will have the advantage. so Huawei is the victim. If only Malaysia had the tech to do reverse engineering. then its a different story.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:34 PM)
let me guess, you didnt know which version of AL31 SU30mkk is using right?

adik.

your stupidity is laughable.
stop licking your own finger after removing it from anus la.
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keep licking PRC butt.
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QUOTE(Jwang @ May 23 2020, 10:21 PM)
Only Mahathir dare to speak up, which other just keep silent.
Thats why Mahathir is always label as controversial person & anti-america.
i believe in him in non-politic statement, even though i may not be agree all with his statement in politic.

America Gov is smart , at least they sell u the weapon, hopefully u dun used against them.
America Gov is also holding the last card (back-door card) eg Boeing, computer ,server ,telecommunication, andriod , apple
Imagine we ned to ask for sms password from USA, when we wun to fire rifle which we buy from them doh.gif
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unfortunately for us.

we don't gain anything infact we are losing a lot of things for his bravery.

better get one of those unbrave toe the line,rakyat first leader than outspoken brave truth Sayer.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:47 PM)
noice, are you saying if the hornets could be better if they were commissioned early? or later? well they cant sell that until they have super hornet for themselves isnt it.

obviously US is ready to equipment malaysia with better support. i hope you understand the meaning of proxy war  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

and we all know how peaceful india is after invasion of sikkim and kashmir as well.  innocent.gif
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Commissioned early or later does not have much different.
For a new plane to be fully operational they will need some time to learn and handle the new plane.
the other word for this process is "Familiarization Period"

of course I do understand the proxy war and Malaysia soft diplomatic approach currently reap from both of them.

QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:48 PM)
obviously your spies in PLA told you that.  innocent.gif  innocent.gif  innocent.gif
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I would not say spy, but yes I have couple of sources like and most of them is OSINT btw
but I have to say the best man to ask about Russian Bird in Asean area is a Chinese guy from Taiwan
he publish couple of book about Sukhoi plane because that is his specialty and publish several journal in Sankt-Peterburg Uni about Sukhoi and it's capabilities

but I got a much reliable sources, he is actually just come back to Malaysia from ChengDu couple of years ago where..
nevermind laugh.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ May 23 2020, 07:59 PM)
this was a long ago comment made during when he was still a PM B4 Badawi at LIMA air show


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He repeated this at aljazeera show 2 weeks ago
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 23 2020, 08:14 PM)
dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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F18 pilot :" Enemy F35 on my tail. Requesting source code to deploy counter measures. Over"

A few seconds later

"I am hit. Urgently requesting source code to operate ejector seat"

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QUOTE(enviro @ May 24 2020, 04:35 AM)
F18 pilot :" Enemy  F35 on my tail. Requesting source code to deploy counter measures. Over"

A few seconds later

"I am hit. Urgently requesting source code to operate ejector seat"
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CM mana pakai source code, ko klik butang ja
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QUOTE(freeman1 @ May 23 2020, 10:37 PM)
Tun M is truely one of the highest wisdom world class leader in human history...

Benar-banar langit dan darat perbezaan dengan pengkhianat muyidin
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Langit dengan laut Dalam in case for Bijan.

QUOTE(darth5zaft @ May 24 2020, 01:39 AM)
unfortunately for us.

we don't gain anything infact we are losing a lot of things for his bravery.

better get one of those unbrave toe the line,rakyat first leader than outspoken brave truth Sayer.
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What loses? He has been himself from day one, they only change he dont practiced cronyism anymore. You think US like rapeseed India ka? Small issues merajuk, We also practiced buy British last , etc etc



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QUOTE(Matgolf @ May 24 2020, 11:08 AM)
Langit dengan laut Dalam in case for Bijan.
What loses? He has been himself from day one, they only change he dont practiced cronyism anymore. You think US like rapeseed India ka? Small issues merajuk, We also practiced buy British last , etc etc
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QUOTE(everest @ May 23 2020, 07:51 PM)
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If only airshow....then it's time to make movies and get some movie out of it.
Got cicakman, sangkar, polis Evo....now we can do pistol atas
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Most of the US military hardware are too expensive, plus lots of constraints. Better buy from Russia or China their hardware just as good.
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Just put 2 or 3 gatling gun at the jet. Problem settle. You can kill as many people as you wish. No need source code or computer system to do this. Just a finger enough already.
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What is this Bodoh talking about what plane bomb Suluk

Of courselah America let us do it.

Win win situation.. Good for business.
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QUOTE(azbro @ May 24 2020, 04:13 PM)
What is this Bodoh talking about what plane bomb Suluk

Of courselah America let us do it.

Win win situation.. Good for business.
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Wow

That means you so pandai..

Meaning before TUDM do that operation they ask for America's blessing before go ahead? 😂 You must be working in pentagon to have such insider news
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QUOTE(Bartholomew S @ May 24 2020, 02:01 PM)
Just put 2 or 3 gatling gun at the jet. Problem settle. You can kill as many people as you wish. No need source code or computer system to do this. Just a finger enough already.
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Lol
Gatling also made in USA, you think leh.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 24 2020, 05:48 PM)
Lol
Gatling also made in USA, you think leh.
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gatling no source code to operate, no need use computer. just tekan button only.
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QUOTE(Bartholomew S @ May 24 2020, 05:52 PM)
gatling no source code to operate, no need use computer. just tekan button only.
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Lol
U think it is nerf gun ka? Hold down the trigger and slam fire.
Targeting and fire control?
Eye ball ka?

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