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Is RM3.9k a month for fresh grad a low salary?
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9m2w
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May 21 2020, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(nivota @ May 21 2020, 10:07 AM) Unilever, Maxis, Shell, PNB, Khazanah and even SOCSO are the high paying organisations that I know about. That means this country is literally hopeless, salary growth is way much more slower than other peers which are developing countries, your spending power is so weak when you are in advance economies. Problem with Malaysian graduates is that I think most of us are somehow in the kampung mentality which thinks that "oh its okay I will just get a job in Malaysia and work until I die" without realising how competitive graduates in other countries in the world are. I'm not even referring to Singapore but try look at Germany, China, US MBA students whom trying very very very hard to get into summer internships at MBBs. Try also look at graduates from Scandinavian countries and see their interview performance in London, you will be very surprised. In short Malaysian graduates just aren't globally competitive enough, period. You can even add Chinamen conglomerates like Sunway and YTL to that list as well. The caveat is usually an Ivy League or equivalent degree. And your comment on Scandinavian country graduates, you mean they suck compared to their european peers?
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Sone Shin
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May 21 2020, 10:30 AM
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Surprisingly many voted no. 🤔
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Sone Shin
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May 21 2020, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Docile @ May 21 2020, 09:42 AM) My first gaji was around 2.3k like that only That is bila o? Don't compare 5 years back la.
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nivota
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May 21 2020, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 21 2020, 10:29 AM) You can even add Chinamen conglomerates like Sunway and YTL to that list as well. The caveat is usually an Ivy League or equivalent degree. And your comment on Scandinavian country graduates, you mean they suck compared to their european peers? Exactly the opposite, graduates from Scandinavian countries and predominantly Germany are way much more competitive and excel to perform in interviews compared to the British graduates. You can say Germany graduates and Singapore graduates are much alike - like the kiasu type, but it is exactly the kiasu spirit brings them to where they are today.
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knumskul
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May 21 2020, 10:35 AM
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Stupid strawberry fresh grad comparing age against salary instead of other factors.
If like that I jealous Mark Zuckerberg salary because he same age as me. I will demand my boss pay me FB founder salary.
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Sone Shin
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May 21 2020, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(nivota @ May 21 2020, 10:33 AM) Exactly the opposite, graduates from Scandinavian countries and predominantly Germany are way much more competitive and excel to perform in interviews compared to the British graduates. You can say Germany graduates and Singapore graduates are much alike - like the kiasu type, but it is exactly the kiasu spirit brings them to where they are today. Damn sad. Not sure where this thing went wrong... Same MNC, fresh grad SG getting 4k SGD, and MY getting 3.5k MYR. Doing same job scope and same rank. Edit: I mean company not even giving the MY grad in 4k MYR. Damn... This post has been edited by Sone Shin: May 21 2020, 10:38 AM
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Docile
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May 21 2020, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ May 21 2020, 10:32 AM) That is bila o? Don't compare 5 years back la. 10 yrs ago kot
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InitialB
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May 21 2020, 10:40 AM
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You mau berape for fresh grad? experience tak dak, use dadikasi money to study.... Bayar you RM10k a month mau kah?
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Sone Shin
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May 21 2020, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(Docile @ May 21 2020, 10:39 AM) Aiyo then cannot compare la. 8 years back my company fresh is 2.5k, 5 years back is 3k, last year already up to 3.5k.
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9m2w
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May 21 2020, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(nivota @ May 21 2020, 10:33 AM) Exactly the opposite, graduates from Scandinavian countries and predominantly Germany are way much more competitive and excel to perform in interviews compared to the British graduates. You can say Germany graduates and Singapore graduates are much alike - like the kiasu type, but it is exactly the kiasu spirit brings them to where they are today. Thats actually quite an interesting nugget of information. I would expect a German to be prepared and confident but I worked in a German/Scandinavian company for more than 10 years and they are at times not the most humble, adaptable or open minded of colleagues, bad traits that would screw up any interview. Scandinavians are much better in this regard. But i'm already in my 40s and this is anecdotal information, times could have changed I guess
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Kagekiyo
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May 21 2020, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ May 21 2020, 08:08 AM) https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry96830460Just read a thread by a fresh grad ktard I tot 2-3k is normal for fresh grad doing a simple job?  The fact that the strawberry generation TS deleted his original rant post about being low blowed for being a fresh grad just further proves the point that people's perception of you matters more than the sum of value you can "potentially" bring to the table. Back in 2009 when i first started my first job after graduating from university, i was offered RM2,300. Did i accept the job? Yes. Was the salary the only primary factor why i accepted this low salary offer given that it is my very first full time job? No. I did it because i knew everyone else has to start somewhere either from ground up to pick up work experience. Nowadays fresh graduates are so short sighted - they can't wrap their head over the fact that those who are earning their five figure salaries today started from 0. Can somebody do a background check on this fag who who takes everything at face value that's being posted on the /K forums that everyone earns an average of RM20,000 per month to counter argue with over arching mass generalization statements? This post has been edited by Kagekiyo: May 21 2020, 11:06 AM
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TSCoup De Grace
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May 21 2020, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ May 21 2020, 10:37 AM) Damn sad. Not sure where this thing went wrong... Same MNC, fresh grad SG getting 4k SGD, and MY getting 3.5k MYR. Doing same job scope and same rank. Edit: I mean company not even giving the MY grad in 4k MYR. Damn... 3.9k gross for freshie considered quite good in msia especially for simple job as he stated
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SUSChenHo123
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May 21 2020, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 21 2020, 08:39 AM) ChenHo1231) 3.9k salary for fresh grad is more than okay. 2) no fresh grad can earn 8k, not even in the OnG without alowance. Your friends are lying to you Ok thanks for the point
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godhand
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May 21 2020, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 21 2020, 08:39 AM) ChenHo1231) 3.9k salary for fresh grad is more than okay. 2) no fresh grad can earn 8k, not even in the OnG without alowance. Your friends are lying to you i have a living friend earning 8k in mckenzie as a fresh 5 years ago so idk what are u talking about. if a company knows how to make money they can pay you any price This post has been edited by godhand: May 21 2020, 11:22 AM
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hirano
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May 21 2020, 11:25 AM
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If i get freshie like ChenHo123, i will fire him terus.
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JoeK
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May 21 2020, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(godhand @ May 21 2020, 11:22 AM) i have a living friend earning 8k in mckenzie as a fresh 5 years ago so idk what are u talking about. if a company knows how to make money they can pay you any price yes.. i use to hear this also.. freshgrad salary 8k. but actually its 5k plus 3k offshoree allowance of something.. then if that month didnt go to offshore, then no allowance and basic salary 5k only.. friend of friend punya friend story usually cannot pakai. if your friend actually got it then good for him
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Kagekiyo
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May 21 2020, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 21 2020, 11:25 AM) If i get freshie like ChenHo123, i will fire him terus. If i was in HR, i'll reject him not because of the lack of gratitude that's he's being offered more than the average starting salary than most sectors but because he's so socially inept that he lacks any form of situation awareness that we are in the middle of a Global recession where people are being retrenched. Any person with at least some common sense ought to be grateful to have a job or being offered a job during these rough times.
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9m2w
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May 21 2020, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 21 2020, 11:29 AM) yes.. i use to hear this also.. freshgrad salary 8k. but actually its 5k plus 3k offshoree allowance of something.. then if that month didnt go to offshore, then no allowance and basic salary 5k only.. friend of friend punya friend story usually cannot pakai. if your friend actually got it then good for him I do know of a fresh grad on a management trainee program being paid close to 8K in a GLC. Key word here isnt race but the fact he has a MIT Sloan degree. Outliers exist. But they are rare.
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kcchong2000
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May 21 2020, 11:40 AM
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3.9k, can Yolo ketam liao
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SUSChenHo123
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May 21 2020, 11:40 AM
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I must say i suspect this thread was started because someone got angry about one of my thread. Let me just say that it was never my intention to brag(As if i get fulfilment from bragging) or make anyone angry. Just wanted to share my problem and depression because perhaps there are other people out there who is in the problem i am facing too.
If my apologies to those who felt insulted by my post will calm you all down then i will gladly apologise and i will know that this is not the suitable place for me to share my problem nor ask for advice.
PS : I did close the original thread to avoid arguing or escalating the issue. (I am depress so i dont really know why i am even on this forum in the first place)
This post has been edited by ChenHo123: May 21 2020, 11:42 AM
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