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Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro, The New Flagship killer?

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post May 25 2020, 09:02 AM

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mediatek same as tsmc, both r Taiwanese company
US will hv a hand on it if they wanted
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 25 2020, 07:19 AM)
True. Let's see how the trade war unfolds. Trump really enjoys to give people a lot of headaches doesn't he sweat.gif. If things go well then this might be a good chance for mediatek to step up to show what they are capable of icon_idea.gif
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Ya, the situation with Trump is volatile even for US tech companies with heavy investments in China as China is considering to retaliate with their own entity list. Hopefully in November, they will vote for Biden instead.
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post May 25 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 25 2020, 09:02 AM)
u all don't shiok sendiri...
mediatek same as tsmc, both r Taiwanese company
US will hv a hand on it if they wanted
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That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol

QUOTE(attw @ May 25 2020, 09:10 AM)
Ya, the situation with Trump is volatile even for US tech companies with heavy investments in China as China is considering to retaliate with their own entity list. Hopefully in November, they will vote for Biden instead.
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Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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post May 25 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 25 2020, 09:33 AM)
That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol
Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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Why 5nm plant in US will increase prices? The smart phone now is using 5nm from Taiwan, and they going to make 3nm there too.


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QUOTE(bsa12 @ May 25 2020, 09:46 AM)
Why 5nm plant in US will increase prices? The smart phone now is using 5nm from Taiwan, and they going to make 3nm there too.
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I thought the manufacturing cost in the state is higher, no?
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post May 25 2020, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 25 2020, 09:58 AM)
I thought the manufacturing cost in the state is higher, no?
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According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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post May 25 2020, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 25 2020, 09:33 AM)
That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol
Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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again, don't syiok sendiri
ur unker Joe is from Obama camp, democrat.
which they introduce Trans Pacific Partnership, TPP.
whether they r republican or Democrat, they view China as a threat.

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post May 25 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 25 2020, 10:29 AM)
According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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I see. I guess different source leads to different answers? Hopefully I'm wrong sweat.gif

QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 25 2020, 11:20 AM)
again, don't syiok sendiri
ur unker Joe is from Obama camp, democrat.
which they introduce Trans Pacific Partnership, TPP.
whether they r republican or Democrat, they view China as a threat.
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My apologies, Mr know everything sir notworthy.gif. In current situation I don't think anyone in the states doesn't view China as a threat, regardless of party. Well whatever it is, let's just hope for the best 🤗
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The price is expensive but I've let go of my habit of using flagship due to prices. laugh.gif

mi9t is more than enough for me now, as long as mid range SoC is functioning well, I guess I'll just stick to mid range phone and maybe just buy last year's model. Too bad, I miss using poco f1.
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Trump is just a joker. Up front talked about American here and there, seeing China as threat, engaged trade war. Mainly due to China product are too cheap, so he put tariff on it, earn big bucks, right ?
Many didnt know, the increase in price of those low cost product/materials impacted US industry itself. China aluminium too cheap ? Put tariff on it ! Small company in US like boat building who rely on aluminium, have to force-buy higher cost US aluminium, or eat the tariff imposed China aluminium.
Almost all IT or related industry company from US dont support Trump whole heartedly, they know it will come back and hurt them if trade war escalated. One of the reason whole world go and setup factory at China is due to cost and materials.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 25 2020, 11:41 AM)
I see. I guess different source leads to different answers? Hopefully I'm wrong  sweat.gif
My apologies, Mr know everything sir  notworthy.gif. In current situation I don't think anyone in the states doesn't view China as a threat, regardless of party. Well whatever it is, let's just hope for the best 🤗
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it is okay, in the current situation it will just slow down the world technology advancement... aka 5G

US still can bully in tech wise coz it will take years for China or the rest of the world to catch up...
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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ May 25 2020, 12:27 PM)
The price is expensive but I've let go of my habit of using flagship due to prices. laugh.gif

mi9t is more than enough for me now, as long as mid range SoC is functioning well, I guess I'll just stick to mid range phone and maybe just buy last year's model. Too bad, I miss using poco f1.
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Sad to see flagships are too expensive these days.

Had my mi pad 4 almost two years now, mid range SoC but still do a great job in handling most tasks.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 25 2020, 12:33 PM)
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Trump is just a joker. Up front talked about American here and there, seeing China as threat, engaged trade war. Mainly due to China product are too cheap, so he put tariff on it, earn big bucks, right ?
Many didnt know, the increase in price of those low cost product/materials impacted US industry itself. China aluminium too cheap ? Put tariff on it ! Small company in US like boat building who rely on aluminium, have to force-buy higher cost US aluminium, or eat the tariff imposed China aluminium.
Almost all IT or related industry company from US dont support Trump whole heartedly, they know it will come back and hurt them if trade war escalated. One of the reason whole world go and setup factory at China is due to cost and materials.
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He's a joker to no end.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 25 2020, 10:29 AM)
According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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QUOTE(XXXOOOXXXOOO @ May 25 2020, 02:49 PM)
issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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I don't know since I am not a economist.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 25 2020, 10:29 AM)
According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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QUOTE(XXXOOOXXXOOO @ May 25 2020, 02:49 PM)
issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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I think many manufactured in China, because main targeted buyer are around Asia, China and India as biggest consumer market in Asia.
Also China's lack of full regulatory, worse working environment, worse benefit etc. Imagine setup in western countries, worker union will fxxK up company profit, demanding benefit this and that.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 25 2020, 02:56 PM)
I think many manufactured in China, because main targeted buyer are around Asia, China and India as biggest consumer market in Asia.
Also China's lack of full regulatory, worse working environment, worse benefit etc. Imagine setup in western countries, worker union will fxxK up company profit, demanding benefit this and that.
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working culture too, China labor is no longer cheap now but they still very hard working and as long as manufacturer willing to pay, they will work.
second supply chain, impossible ship all part, material to US to make chips than send it back here to test, manufacturer than return ....
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QUOTE(XXXOOOXXXOOO @ May 25 2020, 03:01 PM)
working culture too, China labor is no longer cheap now but they still very hard working and as long as manufacturer willing to pay, they will work.
second supply chain, impossible ship all part, material to US to make chips than send it back here to test, manufacturer than return ....
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Ya, IINM materials processing also. Many rare earth material processing are 'dirty' and not environment friendly, western countries 'dont' want to do at their place.
Like how Australia dig out materials, and ship to Msia to process it cough*Lynas*cough biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2020, 11:19 PM

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Perhaps this could be the Poco F2 non-Pro and cost below RM1500?

https://www.gsmarena.com/redmi_k30i_5g_goes...-news-43400.php
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QUOTE(attw @ May 25 2020, 11:19 PM)
Perhaps this could be the Poco F2 non-Pro and cost below RM1500?

https://www.gsmarena.com/redmi_k30i_5g_goes...-news-43400.php
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Does seems slightly nearer to poco F1, aka LCD screen. One of the reason F1 are low cost is LCD.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 26 2020, 12:05 AM)
Does seems slightly nearer to poco F1, aka LCD screen. One of the reason F1 are low cost is LCD.
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Yeah, good point. Xiaomi will have one phone at every price point so customers can choose whatever suits them laugh.gif

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