depends if there are many flights arriving around the same time as you but no harm to use visit japan web

i was in osaka last week and the immi/custom clearance was straightforward and easy with the qr code.

also good to see many places accept e-wallet for payment so TNG is quite handy when i am low in cash

QR code?
Can elaborate how to obtain and purpose?

Thanks

you will get qr code after completed the visit japan web so immi/custom can scan that code instead of traditional way of filling up the white arrival card

This post has been edited by hihihehe: Feb 20 2024, 10:16 PM

hi just wanna ask about the tateyama alpine route, which i plan to go from nagano. seeing that need to prebook multiple tickets etc, would it be worth the price to book a tour via klook? about 1k per person.

https://www.klook.com/en-MY/activity/78529-...e-day-bus-tour/

Anyone have experience taking batik air to narita? Thinking of going this december to spend christmas and new year there and the prices are quite decent as including 20kg baggage compared to mas or airasia.



This post has been edited by HumanExtinction: Feb 21 2024, 12:16 AM

Batik Air used Narrow body aircraft B737 Max ....seat pitch (legroom) are nice, Better than MAS, On par with ANA...can't beat JAL.
Weakness of Narrow Body are toilet part. Entire Economy Class only got 2 toilet serving 130 - 150 pax. If you not the type going Toilet often, this will be none issue for you.

Narita Airport got 2 good & 1 bad .....Good is This Airport only operation until 8.55pm, means no late night rush like Haneda. It got 1200 Yen cheap express bus from Narita to Shibuya / Ginza. Bad is......narita famous for wind Shear....Very windy airport, landing will be very rough, very bumpy, very high chances go around
if you are kind of passenger easy get dizzy, Narita gurantee you air sickness to the max. ....Free Roller Coaster Experience


Batik Air got IFE, but they will not provided any headphone, bring your own 3.5mm Jack headphone.

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Feb 21 2024, 03:09 PM

This Tour from Nagano > Tateyama Alpine Route > Nagano.....If this plan suit you then ok.
People who prefer Nagano > Tateyama Alpine Route > Toyama, then you had to DIY it, without any tour.

nothing wrong with batik air except they like to reschedule the flight.

i experience it 2 months ago to hong kong end up have to extend 1 more night

my friend going to tokyo next month also same

thanks for the input. any idea how much will it cost roughly if diy from nagano tateyama toyama? just wanna know how much extra premium.

Narita are diffrent story. Because it was not an 24 hrs airport. It only operate until 8:55pm.
Schedule very tight due to many airlines coming in & out plus one day only got 14 hrs operation.
Narita doest allow any airlines suka suka change, it will be blacklisted.

Flew few times with Batik Air....On time , sometimes early 30 minute from schedule.

Thanks both for the info

Nagano Station to Matsumoto Station
JR Local Train - 1170 Yen , 80 Minute Travel Time
JR Limited Express "Shinano" - 2700 Yen, 50 Minute Travel Time

Matsumoto Station to Shinano Omachi Station
JR Local Train - 680 Yen, 60 Minute Travel Time

Or

Nagano Station to Shinano Omachi Station
Express Bus - 3100 Yen, 105 Minute Travel Time

Shinano Omachi Station to Ogizawa Station (Tateyama Alpine Route Starting Point)
Local Bus - 1320 Yen

Ogizawa Station to Kurobe Dam
Kandan tunnel Electric Bus - 1800 Yen

Kurobe Dam to Murodo (Ice Wall)
Kurobe Cable Car + Tateyama Ropeway + Tateyama Tunnel Trolley Bus - 5050 Yen

Murodo Back to Nagano....Same Price again
5050 + 1800 +1320 +3100 (Bus)

Total Cost for DIY are 22540 Yen / Rm720 (Bus)
Total Cost for DIY are 23100 Yen / Rm740 (Train)

Matsumoto Station to Shinano Omachi Station by Train slightly expensive & Take Longer time (Est. 200 Minute + - ) but the reward of Scenic View of Oita Line are excellent!!

Oh Yes...Buying from Klook...That Extra RM300 is for Saving you Q buying Ticket. If you go Tateyama Alpine Route on April which is Golden Season.....Q for buying Ticket at Ogizawa Station take 1 hrs , Another 1 hrs from Kurobe to Murodo

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Feb 21 2024, 01:12 PM

i see, thanks for the really helpful insight. planning to go mid may. already going to kurobe gorge, but my better half would like to consider alpine route as well. we have 1 day extra in nagano - either just go around the city (which i think ntg much) or do the day trip. not sure if weather/rain will affect anything though.

If dont want to spend so much money to Tateyama Route, You can go Kusatsu

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Feb 21 2024, 01:26 PM

we've been to tokyo, osaka, kyoto before this. so this time round we would be landing at nagoya, whereby we'll be making a trip around there.

day 1 - arrival in morning at nagoya
day 2 - nagoya - ghibli
day 3 - nagoya > takayama > shirakawago
day 4 - shirakawago > kanazawa
day 5 - kanazawa > unazuki
day 6 - unazuki (kurobe gorge) > nagano
day 7 - nagano
day 8 - nagano > magome > nagoya
day 9 - nagoya
day 10 - depart in morning

day 1 - arrival in morning at nagoya
day 2 - nagoya - ghibli
day 3 - Nagoya > Takayama
day 4 - Takayama > Shirakawago > kanazawa
day 5 - Kanazawa > kurobe gorge >Toyama
day 6 - Toyama > Tateyama Alpine Route > Nagano
day 7 - Nagano > Magome > Nagoya
day 8 - Nagoya > Iseshi > Toyouke Daijingu (Ise Jingu Geku, Outer Sanctuary) + Toyouke Daijingu (Ise Jingu Geku, Inner Sanctuary) > Nagoya
day 9 - Nagoya
day 10 - depart in morning

Overnight at Shirakawago? You already booked? If not, Just stay at Takayama.

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Feb 21 2024, 02:32 PM

i shall have look at those places.

any reason to stay at takayama over shirakawago other than the price and more choices? also the reason why i was not thinking of toyama is because I dun think i can handle the diy to alpine route with all the visitors - prefer a bit more chill. that being said guided tours via klook only depart from nagano.

the accommodations i book all have free cancellation. so still can adjust if needed to.

Takayama got alot restraurant, snack, cafe & Onsen. Proper little town. Shirakawago got nothing, basically nothing. Dinner cooked by accomodation, once dinner done, That it, Ends, no more entertaiment, outside pitch black, nothing...no cafe, no restraurant, no entertaiment. If you like quiet, chill, super boring enviroment. Then can overnight at Shirakawago.

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Feb 21 2024, 03:15 PM

Thank you for the replied.

Btw, I have T&Go and Wise, anyone can share which card offer lower rate?

I went direct, it’s hard to book though because they only open up the booking system 2 weeks before
I wrote about my experience on this in my blog, hope it will be useful to all:
https://wlst-ourfirstjourney.blogspot.com/2...-route.html?m=1