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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙, ~Official Thread~

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post Aug 16 2007, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Aug 16 2007, 12:09 AM)
Had a look at the car just now. This one is definitely the most solidly built model to come out of proton yet. The doors shut with a reassuring thud, and there aren't so many unsightly gaps. Headroom is greatly improved compared to the original Gen 2 and overall the car looks and feels decent, with ok plastics&upholstery and a sensible layout. The door handles are more solid than the ugly scratch&win rounded ones in the first batch Gen2, and there is a glove box now. This is the car Proton ought to have introduced when they first released the original Gen 2. With the Persona I finally get the feeling that Proton has listened to the Malaysian public. If only they had listened to the rakyat all along and built a car that Malaysians wanted and needed....
Anyway, I hope for Proton's sake that the Persona does well. I think this car deserves that much, irregardless of who built it.
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Aug 16 2007, 12:08 AM)
I also read, u only have to push a bit then the boot auto close.
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i think only h-line have that. maybe chip knows better?but then again, chip's is m-line kan?
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:16 AM

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But one thing still worries me. The FC. HOw good will it be? Since the car is larger then waja and gen-2 (supposily heavier as well) will it be worse than both of them > The waja and gen-2 already a fuel drinker.
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(jackallemily @ Aug 16 2007, 12:16 AM)
i think only h-line have that. maybe chip knows better?but then again, chip's is m-line kan?
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Remote trunk release only for h-line. Only that i know.
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:20 AM

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fuel drinker ke waja??... isi rm 50 pi balik kl ipoh..... 50/400 = 0.125 perkm.... ok wat....


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:22 am
QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Aug 16 2007, 12:18 AM)
Remote trunk release only for h-line. Only that i know.
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untuk release H-line je ada remote.... kalo untuk tutup.... semua line auto tutup on halfway

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post Aug 16 2007, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Aug 16 2007, 12:20 AM)
fuel drinker ke waja??... isi rm 50 pi balik kl ipoh..... 50/400 = 0.125 perkm.... ok wat....


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:22 am

untuk release H-line je ada remote.... kalo untuk tutup.... semua line auto tutup on halfway
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Wow, ur waja can do 400km on RM 50 shocking.gif ? Manual? Must be very lightfooted and on highway ma. Probably going to see the car on sataturday. FC is still my main concern.
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:38 AM

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manual waja yr 2004, i go lowyat with that waja... onli isi rm 5 je... petrol pam selalu tgk i mcm org sengkek.... no mod.. no prob at all...

isi rm 10 pi balik kl serdang... antar pc lor... so kena kire bajet.....

10/80km = 0.125.... same...
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post Aug 16 2007, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Aug 16 2007, 12:38 AM)
manual waja yr 2004, i go lowyat with that waja... onli isi rm 5 je... petrol pam selalu tgk i mcm org sengkek.... no mod.. no prob at all...

isi rm 10 pi balik kl serdang... antar pc lor... so kena kire bajet.....

10/80km = 0.125.... same...
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post Aug 16 2007, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 16 2007, 01:10 AM)
i was having headache understanding what u wrote.. rclxub.gif
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Hahaha..
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post Aug 16 2007, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Aug 16 2007, 12:38 AM)
manual waja yr 2004, i go lowyat with that waja... onli isi rm 5 je... petrol pam selalu tgk i mcm org sengkek.... no mod.. no prob at all...

isi rm 10 pi balik kl serdang... antar pc lor... so kena kire bajet.....

10/80km = 0.125.... same...
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i read it 5 times already.. i still dont quite get what you mean there rclxub.gif

i assume you mean your waja very fuel saving rite biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2007, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 16 2007, 02:01 AM)
i read it 5 times already.. i still dont quite get what you mean there  rclxub.gif

i assume you mean your waja very fuel saving rite  biggrin.gif
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He meant his Waja very fuel saving that RM10 petrol can go 80km, enough to cover KL-Serdang return trip.
Sometime he only refuel RM5 at petrol station, and people around showed strange expressions.
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post Aug 16 2007, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 16 2007, 02:10 AM)
He meant his Waja very fuel saving that RM10 petrol can go 80km, enough to cover KL-Serdang return trip.
Sometime he only refuel RM5 at petrol station, and people around showed strange expressions.
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only malay guy will understand what CHIP CN try to explain.. laugh.gif bro ur shortform cant understand by those who're not understand doh.gif


Added on August 16, 2007, 2:35 am
QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 16 2007, 02:10 AM)
He meant his Waja very fuel saving that RM10 petrol can go 80km, enough to cover KL-Serdang return trip.
Sometime he only refuel RM5 at petrol station, and people around showed strange expressions.
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only malay guy will understand what CHIP CN try to explain.. laugh.gif bro ur shortform cant understand by those who're not understand doh.gif next time u have to write in full words thumbup.gif


manual waja yr 2004, i go lowyat with that waja... onli isi rm 5 je... petrol pam selalu tgk(tengok) i mcm(macam) org(orang) sengkek(pokai@no money).... no mod.. no prob at all...

isi rm 10 pi(pergi) balik kl serdang... antar(hantar) pc lor... so kena kire bajet.....

10/80km = 0.125.... same...


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malay also pening want to faham what he wrote laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2007, 06:21 AM

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Added on August 16, 2007, 6:23 am
QUOTE(nexus @ Jul 23 2007, 06:07 PM)
my experience in my industrial traning last time.
government offer a project to setup a lab in an government institute, so ofcos only bumiput*ra company can take the project.
after tht ,bumiput*ra company find a chin*se company to take the project.

at first, the government pay bumiput*ra company 100k for tht project.
then bumiput*ra company find the chin*se company and offer them 50k for the project.
at last, chin*se company finish the project with fulfillment of all the spec required with 10k.

at the end, bumiput*ra company earn 50k, chin*se company earn 40k, and government hav a 10k lab by paying 100k.

WTA is this the same as wht happens to P1 too?
let say P1 initially put a budget of RM500 for a dashboard, but at the end they only have a RM100 dashboard installed in the car. so the result is a crappy car with high building cost.
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dude, its the other way around lah.........

government offered a project for bumi company
chi company "pays/hires" a bumi company to get this project
chi company profits 80% bumi company profits commission 20%

if not like this, where got so many chi billionaires living inside those kampung kampung areas and just riding motor to pasar pagi every morning (with a few S class and 7 series parked inside their bungalow)???

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post Aug 16 2007, 07:35 AM

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2004 Waja using Mitsu engine right? Most of buyer are concern about the Campro engine FC. Since Persona is heavier than Waja and Gen2 then the FC might be worse.
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post Aug 16 2007, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Aug 16 2007, 12:16 AM)
But one thing still worries me. The FC. HOw good will it be? Since the car is larger then waja and gen-2 (supposily heavier as well) will it be worse than both of them > The waja and gen-2 already a fuel drinker.
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Somebody posted somewhere up there i think...the Persona is almost same like Gen-2 in FC. 6.xl/100km @ constant xxkm/h.


Added on August 16, 2007, 8:58 am
QUOTE(tifosi @ Aug 16 2007, 12:16 AM)
But one thing still worries me. The FC. HOw good will it be? Since the car is larger then waja and gen-2 (supposily heavier as well) will it be worse than both of them > The waja and gen-2 already a fuel drinker.
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Somebody posted somewhere up there i think...the Persona is almost same like Gen-2 in FC. 6.xl/100km @ constant xxkm/h.

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post Aug 16 2007, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(The Scent LYN @ Aug 15 2007, 11:29 PM)
With CPS/VIM = More power = Higher FC is acceptable.

BUT..

With CPS/VIM = NO power = Jerky gearbox = Higher FC is NOT acceptable.
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no CPS/VIM = got power = non jerky gearbox = still within reasonable FC -> how do u define this?
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QUOTE(The Scent LYN @ Aug 15 2007, 11:33 PM)
Do u know that for RM50K u can actually get City? Can u PLEASE compare City's quality with Pesona?
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hey noobie there,
i have a city & vios in my family.... both are toyota and honda, and why do i go buy a neo?
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and this pesona, the interior is very well build, when i go back and sit in the city i have at home, the city interior suddenly felt cheaper.....
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ok lets say u get a city for 50k
can u afford the petrol at RM 3 per litre then?
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post Aug 16 2007, 09:55 AM

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This is an english forum right?
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post Aug 16 2007, 10:04 AM

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Sometimes I don't get people. The Vios is even more sempit but I have never heard of anyone complain about the roofline of a Vios.

But when Proton's roof is low abit... all sorts of complaints come out.


By paultan...and he said the plastics are better than some C-segment Japs in his blog.

I dunno why people complain about the campro engine.gen.2 auto has reasonably good pickup in city driving - auto gear shifting all under 3k. rpm.
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post Aug 16 2007, 10:09 AM

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H-Line have ABS, 2 Airbag, Captor, 4 disk brake, tinted compare to M-line.

M-line also have bluebery colour.


Added on August 16, 2007, 10:11 amH-Line have ABS, 2 Airbag, Captor, 4 disk brake, tinted compare to M-line.

M-line also have bluebery colour.

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