Jul 23 2007, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(nexus @ Jul 23 2007, 06:07 PM)
my experience in my industrial traning last time.
government offer a project to setup a lab in an government institute, so ofcos only bumiput*ra company can take the project.
after tht ,bumiput*ra company find a chin*se company to take the project.
at first, the government pay bumiput*ra company 100k for tht project.
then bumiput*ra company find the chin*se company and offer them 50k for the project.
at last, chin*se company finish the project with fulfillment of all the spec required with 10k.
at the end, bumiput*ra company earn 50k, chin*se company earn 40k, and government hav a 10k lab by paying 100k.
WTA is this the same as wht happens to P1 too?
let say P1 initially put a budget of RM500 for a dashboard, but at the end they only have a RM100 dashboard installed in the car. so the result is a crappy car with high building cost.
Nope. that is coffeshop talk. BS.government offer a project to setup a lab in an government institute, so ofcos only bumiput*ra company can take the project.
after tht ,bumiput*ra company find a chin*se company to take the project.
at first, the government pay bumiput*ra company 100k for tht project.
then bumiput*ra company find the chin*se company and offer them 50k for the project.
at last, chin*se company finish the project with fulfillment of all the spec required with 10k.
at the end, bumiput*ra company earn 50k, chin*se company earn 40k, and government hav a 10k lab by paying 100k.
WTA is this the same as wht happens to P1 too?
let say P1 initially put a budget of RM500 for a dashboard, but at the end they only have a RM100 dashboard installed in the car. so the result is a crappy car with high building cost.
Chinaman say: No sauce. Well, sauce may be tasty with some govt projects - but does not go well with Proton.
Proton is operated as a company like any other. It does not economy of scale, but is coping ok i guess.
RM50k for a 1200kg sedan OTR is reasonable. Do a comparison of the OTR prices for 1200kg class sedans in other countries if you dont believe me.
Added on July 23, 2007, 8:39 pm
QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 23 2007, 07:49 PM)
Please go to www.honda.com.my.
Check the Honda City price in Langkawi:
RM53.800 for IDSL and RM56,800 for VTEC.
It is NOT dreaming. Get ur facts straight, we CAN be buying a City at Gen-2 prices if Proton doesn't exist.
You're OWNZED.
The City/FitAria is a ~1000kg class sedan. It's a lil smaller than a gen2 sedan, which is a ~1200kg class sedan.Check the Honda City price in Langkawi:
RM53.800 for IDSL and RM56,800 for VTEC.
It is NOT dreaming. Get ur facts straight, we CAN be buying a City at Gen-2 prices if Proton doesn't exist.
You're OWNZED.
The City/FitAria is a sedan version of the small Jazz/Fit.
A fair comparison would be between the City and the upcoming "Sedan" version of the Savvy platform.
A Honda 1200kg class sedan, the civic, costs RM75k OTR (WITHOUT TAX/NAP)... even if NAP/proton didnt exist, it would be about RM85k with GST and normal taxes... much more than the gen2 sedan. Of course, it is abit more technologically advanced. But the gen2 sedan is only ~RM50k
...it's still reasonable.
This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 23 2007, 08:39 PM
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