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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙, ~Official Thread~

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post Jul 23 2007, 02:07 PM

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if the specs feralee posted are true, then this might be something really worthwhile indeed.

well, bashers generally can't afford other cars apart from Proton, so that's why they bash, they think without Proton they can buy a City at Gen2 prices lol.. keep dreaming
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post Jul 23 2007, 04:41 PM

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seatbelts with pretensioners are the most basic of safety equipment, all variants have it.
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post Jul 23 2007, 04:50 PM

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i'm now interested in the interior and the engine!!
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:08 PM

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but then again, at RM55k, CPS+VIM is abit unbelievable.. maybe for the 60k-ish models like the Gen2 and Waja is more realistic..

haha, Perdana is getting more and more forgotten by the years tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 08:25 PM

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okay, my bad then, sorry. smile.gif

bah, i'm lazy to play this pwning game. only leads to flame wars. wink.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 10:32 PM

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no, what's he talking about does make sense actually.

indeed, Proton sucks when it comes to renewing its models and also QC, but they're also providing cheaper alternatives. that is their selling point overseas, not some super souped up cars with Martian technology.
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post Jul 29 2007, 09:38 PM

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i think Persona is a good name. Seamless transition for the UK market as well, where it directly replaces the Wira there.

I doubt the Gen2 hatch with CPS (when it's gonna be launched) will carry the Persona name though.
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post Jul 30 2007, 09:39 PM

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no, it's transmission control unit. it works together with the ECU for optimal shifting in order for optimum performance and FC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Unit

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post Aug 1 2007, 04:44 PM

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lol, even if they're ready, will the bashers admit it?
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post Aug 5 2007, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Aug 4 2007, 06:42 PM)
Hope this time no more headact and hope proton manage to employ angmo to design the car interior. Last time the proton engineer height only 4 meter.
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wow, must be a very tall engineer. i'm only 1.7m.
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post Aug 7 2007, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:59 PM)
I went to The Curve the other day and the proton representative spoke with me...at one time I chuckled because he told me that this car is designed to compete with

Honda City

Toyota Vios

Perodua Myvi
I chuckled again.
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what's wrong with that? if you consider City and Vios without tax, it IS supposed to compete with those cars. It's like that in the export market where Protons are not protected. Sadly they're not doing well because we all know why. Let's hope the Sedan will change that trend wink.gif

Perodua Myvi is the Sedan's closest competitor in its price range in Malaysia.

therefore I see no joke in it.

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post Aug 7 2007, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Aug 7 2007, 08:29 PM)
I didn't say it was a joke did I?

I only mention that I chuckled when he mention that considering I myself drive a Honda City.

Lets say that City and Vios were to sell without tax and the price ranges about the same as this sedan, which would you get? Will you still get the sedan?

Heck as for me I'll buy even two, one Vios and another City.

The built, comfort, sheer driving pleasure, performance is still by far better better compare to sedan even tho City is assembled here.

With that in mind, shouldn't we chuckle when he says this?
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I will reserve my judgment until the car comes out, then I'll choose which one to buy. I believe the new MD has what it takes to bring Proton places. I'm very happy with my Satria Neo, first batch but no funny QC problems so far, decent performance and great handling. Definitely better than some higher-priced cars. Honestly I was expecting some Proton nightmares when the car first arrived. Fortunately, so far, owning the Satria Neo has been a memorable experience.

I won't buy one Vios and one City, that's dumb. I would buy something more worth it rather than two entry-level cars. For the price of a Vios and City combined, I'd rather get a Civic 2.0S or Hybrid instead.

Wow, so how do you know that the built, comfort, sheer driving pleasure and performance is better than the New Sedan when it's not even released yet. Amazing. notworthy.gif

Wait till the Sedan comes out, and we'll see which one's better.

But then again, even if the Sedan does offer better performance, comfort, built and driving pleasure, would Proton bashers admit it?

I don't think so........ whistling.gif

P/S: Don't misinterpret my post by saying that the New Sedan will pwn the City and Vios, I never said that. I just said that it's best that I reserve my judgment and take a look at all three before passing one. wink.gif

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post Aug 12 2007, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Aug 11 2007, 06:02 PM)
TCU improved mean better gear changing onli. engine power not improved. quiet sad they r&d the CPS+VIM so long n didnt put in new sedan. Dunno how they compete with Myvi. Myvi hv quality assure by toyota parts. What can proton promise huh? Campro engine hv bad image in the market.
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using your logic, Lotus has quality assured by Proton parts? laugh.gif

just because one company owns the other doesn't mean they gets their parts together laugh.gif
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post Aug 14 2007, 08:50 PM

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speedo and tacho seem like taken from the Satria Neo.. but the temp gauge and fuel gauge from the Gen2.. pretty awkward with the white background on the gauges.. but then again it's not in its full colour smile.gif
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 16 2007, 03:44 PM)
PTAllTheBest said,
August 16, 2007 @ 5:43 am

forgot to mention.
disk brake on B & M line. they will not care about their customer.
as long as they can save much they can then if u die it is your problem. none of their business. 4 days old also can get fire easily. $H!#...!
but there is 1 thing i very love. 2 fuel gauge on a car which is i never seen.
they probably know that their product got defect and will often malfunction.
so they equip with not 1 but 2 fuel gauge. damn clever!!!
$H!#...! EVEN STUPID THAN DONKEY!!!

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Look at this fella post in paultan... full of retardness
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lets lol at this sucker who, well is a sucker

disc brake on all 4 wheel ?
well look at the godlike car... still 2 disc brakes only what
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obviously he has never driven a car before laugh.gif
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post Aug 21 2007, 05:50 PM

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bash bash bash.. when the word 'problem' pops up in a proton thread.. the bashing attempts will begin..

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post Aug 22 2007, 06:43 PM

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lol, my uncle's Vios' ECU KO twice, cannot start the call at all, had to leave the car at our relative's place where it was parked overnight until the Toyota people came.

at least Proton doesn't have such problems.

QUOTE(akxj @ Aug 22 2007, 06:27 PM)
guys .. just test drived.. there is so many posts, cant reply to certain post..

anyway, i drove the car, and never the less somehow the TCU is a little better then gen-2's tcu .. altho i find it a little noisy when i pedal down(not all the way to the metal tho) .. the back seats are a disaster .. really hope somehow the seats behind will get a little softer as it may be a little more comfy then..

other than that, honestly i find the car quite worth a bargain.. its design is really nice.. and i prefer this anytime over gen2 (of cos neo is nicer) .. and well .. the low end torque problem is rather fixed but of cos not perfect.. i guess i'm comparing this to my bmw (i test drove with my parents) .. i dont really know what else to comment about the car.. my parents will do booking only 2 weeks after (due to the ghost month.. dont ask =/ ) ..

and the H line boot(speaker area) is covered..both HL and ML .. only the LL isnt.. on the ML and HL you can only see a 2 wires hanging out which isnt obvious because its pretty hidden from a standing person's view..

i'm new in this car stuff .. sorry if i said anything wrongly =)
hmm .. i dont really like the Waja..and waja should be more expensive right?
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hey adrian! you know me right? tongue.gif

considering the Persona? at your age, why not Neo?

and btw the Gen2 isn't equipped with a TCU. TCU works in parallel with the ECU to better regulate the powertrain and gearshifts. the back seats should get better once they are worn in.

the noise the Campro makes when you put pedal to the metal sometimes can really make your hair stand on one end brows.gif it has quite a sporty rumble which I like.
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post Aug 22 2007, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 22 2007, 07:14 PM)
Which batch? Is it the famous immobiliser/alarm problem? It was learnt that UMWT try to reuse the Cobra Alarm in Hilux on Vios - hence the problem. LOL.
I thought is 'The Matrix' thingy.  tongue.gif
Anyway, w00t?!?!?! Until now still got discussion in tax and Gov?
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not sure, but he bought it quite recently, last year. those two incidents happened last year as well.

haha, it IS a Proton thread after all.

I have yet to see Persona on the road. sad.gif have high hopes for this car.
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post Aug 23 2007, 10:33 PM

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lol, luckily my dad bought a niche car in the Neo, so had to wait for one week only tongue.gif

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