MAYBE CPS is just a rebadge of Campro, or rather just a retune of Campro which focus on low to mid range and suffer hi-end power, and doesn't have the sudden surge feel it supposedly had like VTEC?!

RM70 4AFE 1.6L Manual could do far more than 400km.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jul 24 2007, 09:59 AM

Well it is a Perodua's design after modding the front, back and dashboard. Well you also can say Gen2 is not Proton's design too.


Anyway, the spec looks good on Gen2 Sedan.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jul 24 2007, 02:44 PM

I guess TCU should be Tranmission Control/Computer Unit. Meanwhile ECU is Engine/Eletronic Control/Computer Unit.

That said, I take it as the Gen2 sedan only have updated TCU (as written on the 'spec'). So no CPS or VIM yet.

You never know whether the TCU or ECU stuff is true since TCU can be embedded into the ECU and TCU is just a software update (or simply just a result of tuning).

Waja: Volvo of The East

Gen2 Sedan: Porsche of The East

So the aftermarkets have business to do.


Nice car, but why they put a lighter color on the bottom part of the door panel? That part should put on some darker color that is more 'resistant' to dirt.

They didn't killed its own brother. It is expected to have new model superceed the old ones. Just that now there's a fight between Persona and New Waja.



I think they reduce the snorkle for a reason - to improve slightly on the low-end torque.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 15 2007, 02:18 PM

Haven't saw the real car yet, but I just notice they have different interior color scheme for different line.

The one with the black/grey/silver interior look nice, while some having grey/red on the seat fabric and brown/lightblue on the door panel?!

So which is which?



p/s: The color description might be wrong.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 15 2007, 05:18 PM

Almost every car is about the same with something.


jVIPERs2, that's nice. I can say the ugly color scheme should be the low line. Here's another color scheme from The Star video:

Notice the pic in motortrader, the Persona's boot is covered. Unlike Vios which is bare. Good stuff.

Well Honda has been slacking on quality recently...

Pay for 1.6L, but get 2.0L FC and 1.5L power. That's why people complain.



1.3L vs 1.6L, it is very obvious which one is more torquey and powerful. You have to compare with HR16DE or 3ZZFE or even 4AFE.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 16 2007, 12:02 PM

Just view it during lunch time, both should be the M-line, one pearl white another grey. Interior feels cheap, just like my feel in Viva but in black color and more spacious.

Rear: height is good; width is so-so Waja is better here; leg room is very good.

Front: normal. Steering abit on the cheap side and, ugly.

Door: feels cheap and empty. Very hard to close and cheap to open. Neo, Savvy and MyVi have better doors.

Exterior: As handsome as Gen2.

Verdict: A car is just a car, nothing special. For a local comparison, Savvy, MyVi and Waja interior are better. Boot space is between Vios & City. Sedan for that price is a good buy. But if you are looking for luxurious feel, seek elsewhere as there is none here.

:sigh: 'was hoping it could be better in terms of luxury.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 16 2007, 01:08 PM

I think the stock one looks better.



Anyway, anyone got any shot on the lowest line model? We already could find plenty of M and H line pic already.


p/s: I'm pondering why wouldn't they offer manual for H-line.

... and with CPS.


And how about B line interior?

w00t someone mention me. Yeah, want to know the differences. The M and H are fine with their color scheme. Screen shot taken from The Star video, my guess is a B line but need confirmation: picture here


This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 16 2007, 11:22 PM

Paul Tan is just an automobile news-collector reporter. Gen2 roof isn't straight and at the very back of it the headroom is being reduced alot by its shape - Vios rear roofline is better than Gen2. Vios lack legroom and many already complained about it.

Anyway since Persona fixed this, the headroom space now is quite remarkable.




Those that drive imported cars usually employ someone to take care of the car. They know jackshit about the problems and they don't have time to care about it. Hence no words from them.

Those that drive car less than 150k are usually the driver themselves - they get 1st hand feedback and they need to take leaves to solve car's problems. And if the driver are surrounded by similar salary level people, those people would take note of it and spread out. That's because these people could only buy these range of cars. Who would want to buy a problematic car? Every 2 week take a day leave for car repair?! I would love to buy the cheapest car in town if all bosses in Malaysia allow us to take random leave just for car repair.



Anyway, B line pic anyone???

How about color scheme?

I mean this:


(screenshot from The Star online video on Persona launch)


Why is it so ugly compare to the M and H line I saw?! Exterior sure looks similar. I don't need another exterior shot.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 17 2007, 01:56 PM