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 Vaccine: The good, the Bad and the Ugly

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Einjahr
post Feb 15 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 04:22 PM)
I'm sorry, I didn't know Netflix is in the business of educating people, my bad.

Good to know that there are still people who believe in Hollywood production in this day and age.
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then if not evil pharma and evil modern healthcare
wat cure do you use?
air jampi?
snakegrass?
vitamin c?
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:19 PM)
Oh yehhh tell that to polio and other dangerous diseases once almost at the brink of extinction thanks to vaccinnation

but nooooo

u fringe groupie clowns gave diseases a fighting chance and bring them back.
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Again stop generalizing, as I said some are VITAL and save millions.

But do proceed ranting, I'm enjoying this.
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:29 PM

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Passive aggressive antivaxx. LOL. If you don't want to get vaxxed. Don't live with other people.

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post Feb 15 2020, 04:29 PM

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Tired of people using excuse of "freedom to choose", "Right to reject treatment" etc to counter vaccine argument. If published scientific journal don't make you believe in science but rather use own logic, do your research and proof to us, don't use your logic to fight argument.
Einjahr
post Feb 15 2020, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 04:29 PM)
Again stop generalizing, as I said some are VITAL and save millions.

But do proceed ranting, I'm enjoying this.
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You feel the need to respond why? i was talking to someone else? just cant let it go can you?


Oh btw your whole rant about evil pharma is telling enough which crowd you belong in laugh.gif

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Rei7
post Feb 15 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 04:22 PM)
I'm sorry, I didn't know Netflix is in the business of educating people, my bad.

Good to know that there are still people who believe in Hollywood production in this day and age.
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Memang kalau bodoh tu sampai mati jadi bodoh la kot. Sila meninggal
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:19 PM)
Oh yehhh tell that to polio and other dangerous diseases once almost at the brink of extinction thanks to vaccinnation

but nooooo

u fringe groupie clowns gave diseases a fighting chance and bring them back.
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It's science you talking about then get it tested.
Don't be confused between marketing and science.


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post Feb 15 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:25 PM)
then if not evil pharma and evil modern healthcare
wat cure do you use?
air jampi?
snakegrass?
vitamin c?
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There is good, bad, and in between, like people.

For the last time, stop generalizing, you understand the meaning of the word by any chance?
Einjahr
post Feb 15 2020, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 04:38 PM)
There is good, bad, and in between, like people.

For the last time, stop generalizing, you understand the meaning of the word by any chance?
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hide behind vagueness and obscurity if it makes you safe, thats the only way you can protect your fragile opinions from scrutiny.
Einjahr
post Feb 15 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Feb 15 2020, 04:37 PM)
It's science you talking about then get it tested.
Don't be confused between marketing and science.
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see my siggy, remember that comment you make ?

you of all people, demanding the science when BASIC ALSO FUKKEN FAIL

lol
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(akemwarhead @ Feb 15 2020, 04:29 PM)
Passive aggressive antivaxx. LOL. If you don't want to get vaxxed. Don't live with other people.
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Again, thank you everyone for proving my point, we got fanatics here who would discriminate anyone who are not align to their believe.
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:47 PM

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When cannot discuss the science, start playing politics in the hopes of misleading others.
I must commend the level of bullshittery. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Feb 15 2020, 04:35 PM)
Memang kalau bodoh tu sampai mati jadi bodoh la kot. Sila meninggal
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Itu cadangan ke atau soalan?
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:42 PM)
see my siggy, remember that comment you make ?

you of all people, demanding the science when BASIC ALSO FUKKEN FAIL

lol
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I made a mistake on that, I admit that

But herd immunity is not a clinically tested theory.
How can the whole population be undergoing compulsory vaccination on an untested theory ?
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post Feb 15 2020, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 15 2020, 01:16 PM)
Disclaimer: I'm not advising or advocating any ideas, I'm just expressing my thoughts due to countless toxic comments against any narrative different from their own. Do not generalize what I stand for, and take it with a pinch of salt.

So please read it with an open mind.

First you need to understand the basic, which is healthcare industry market size is worth more than a trillion dollar worldwide, and it is still growing steadily. They spend billions of dollar on commission, marketing, and advertisement.

Like any other business, profit is the main focus, so here is my question: Are you telling me that they will never jeopardize our health for profits? Please don't be guilible and naive when answering it, be critical.

Imagine if I'm selling you a product, but I give no guarantee that it will work as intended, due to many reason such as the strain evolve, no herd immunity and so on. Would you buy that product? Because like many new vaccine flooding the market, it doesn't have any solid scientific proof of its effectiveness.

Now here comes the brilliant part of the marketing, because herd immunity is the main focus, and because everyone values their own/children life more than anything, it makes them go hostile to anyone that have different opinion regarding the vaccine industry.

Not only they could get away with selling product that is not guarantee to work, but they are able to demonize anyone that don't subscribe to their doctrine.

You know what is irony? Herd immunity. To inform everyone to quietly take your vaccine is synonymous to be treated as cattle, which has no capacity to think for itself whatsoever.

I would like to remind everyone that I'm not againts vaccine in general, there are vital vaccine that comes with many years of scientific research and proof of its effectiveness. What I'm against is any discrimination of people's freedom to choose what to do with their own body.

By any chance if you get angry with the logic and explanation I put fourth, I'm terribly sorry, there is no vaccine to cure that disease, tough luck.
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Yea la, wait until u get virus ke apa pls don't get vaccine injection ok? Save the vaccine for other patient. U mati tak apa, but pls dun menyusahkan orang lain by spreading ur delusion thought. Thank You.

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post Feb 15 2020, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:41 PM)
hide behind vagueness and obscurity if it makes you safe,  thats the only way you can protect your fragile opinions from  scrutiny.
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Only fools rush in, smart people play safe.

But I would not label myself as intelligent person, caused the proof is right here:









Me replying your post. happy.gif
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Feb 15 2020, 04:50 PM)
I made a mistake on that, I admit that

But herd immunity is not a clinically tested theory.
How can the whole population be undergoing compulsory vaccination on an untested theory ?
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Not tested ? what era you been living in ? a whole hotbed of diseases have been almost wiped out to extinction by vaccination, like smallpox. There is a host of other diseases that were almost wiped out like diptheria, polio, but were brought back by anti vax campaigners. WHat more proof do you need ? lol
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post Feb 15 2020, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(YKayz @ Feb 15 2020, 04:51 PM)
Yea la, wait until u get virus ke apa pls don't get vaccine injection ok?  Save the vaccine for other patient. U mati tak apa, but pls dun menyusahkan orang lain by spreading ur delusion thought. Thank You.
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Takde masalah, vaccine untuk virus baru pun belum ada dalam pasaran, kene tunggu 9 hingga 18 bulan, apelah nasib badan.

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WhiteMaker
post Feb 15 2020, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Feb 15 2020, 04:47 PM)
When cannot discuss the science, start playing politics  in the hopes of misleading others.
I must commend the level of bullshittery.  biggrin.gif
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Funny thing is, I watched one documentary that even in court to fight compulsory vaccine, the antivaxx also succeed in winning court case simply by giving testimony. Now I really understand there are people in this world that really have the "don't believe everything the world tells you" mentality.
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QUOTE(WhiteMaker @ Feb 15 2020, 05:09 PM)
Funny thing is, I watched one documentary that even in court to fight compulsory vaccine, the antivaxx also succeed in winning court case simply by giving testimony. Now I really understand there are people in this world that really have the "don't believe everything the world tells you" mentality.
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Whatever floats their boat biggrin.gif

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