testing BAHASA MALAYSIA to "Malaysian"
testing BAHASA MALAYSIA to "Malaysian"
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Jan 19 2020, 10:52 PM
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Jan 19 2020, 11:09 PM
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Cantik !
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Jan 19 2020, 11:22 PM
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Why the fuck are you all still replying to bigwolf?
Clearly he's a mong of unprecedented levels, to the point I can feel my own chromosomes multiplying. Leave him/her be, stave him/her off from attention. This post has been edited by CertifiedHomphobe: Jan 19 2020, 11:23 PM |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 19 2020, 10:16 PM) And for those who called others who don't know bahasa kebangsaan, have they learned chinese/tamil to communicate with them instead? Or no, use the "kebangsaan"/"national" label so die die they don't have to learn but the other side must? What other sides? You're either a Malaysian or you are not. |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(lilostitch @ Jan 19 2020, 09:57 PM) kenapa nak balik indonesia Balik Indonesia also wrongyou should say.. balik thailand since my ancestor from there multiracial multicultural.. so... no need speak bahasa kebangsaan? tomorrow you go to petrol pump.. the bangla guy speak benggali to you.. and you said tak paham... he then reply: Malaysia is a multicultural multiracial multireligious nation. It is not monoracial monocultural of course you will said wey bodoh he then will reply: :chitta chotti... panni nain... sallaaa... Less than 10% Indonesian speak Malay natively. Bahasa Indonesia is their 2nd language for most of Indonesian. ![]() |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:30 PM
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289 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: sunny bikini yard |
For the new generation, to able to converse and write in Malay is a must.
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Jan 19 2020, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Jan 19 2020, 11:22 PM) Why the fuck are you all still replying to bigwolf? Why? Can't accept the truth? Duduk Malaysia tapi tak nak belajar bahasa lain. Yg bukan melayu kena tau bahasa melayu tapi melayu tak payah belajar bahasa lain. Pakai je label "kebangsaan" cukup, depa kena belajar, ko takyah, win liao izzit?Clearly he's a mong of unprecedented levels, to the point I can feel my own chromosomes multiplying. Leave him/her be, stave him/her off from attention. QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 19 2020, 11:25 PM) You're missing the point. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who called others who don't know bahasa kebangsaan, but they themselves refused to learned other languages to communicate with them instead, and hide behind the "kebangsaan"/"national" label. |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 19 2020, 10:06 PM) Pendek kata Bahasa kebangsaan ada satu sahajaduduk Malaysia tapi tak nak belajar bahasa lain. Yg bukan melayu kena tau bahasa melayu tapi melayu tak payah belajar bahasa lain. Pakai je label "kebangsaan" cukup, depa kena belajar, ko takyah, win liao. Bahasa melayu dialeknya sangat banyak, ada Kelantan, Terengganu, Kedah, Melaka, KL, sarawak, Sabah, Perak semua bunyi lain lain bang. Ingat orang melayu Kedah faham ke apa orang Melayu Sarawak cakap? Macam bahasa cina kat Malaysia pun ada Hokkien, fuchow, Kanto India pun bukan semua Tamil speaker, ada juga yang cakap hindi, yang Singh cakap sinhalese Belom campur lagi dayak, dusun, Iban, minang, jawa dan berpuluh-puluh lagi dielek lain Apa maksud awak dengan bahasa lain? Yang mana satu, semua ke? Kan lebih mudah kalau satu negara kita seragamkan. Kita pakai Bahasa Malaysia. Kan senang, semua orang ada bahasa ibunda (mother tounge) masing-masing. Tak salah nak belajar bahasa lain tapi utamakan bahasa kebangsaan lepas bahasa ibunda sebab awak rakyat Malaysia. Nak belajar bahasa lain tu terpulanglah. Itu bagus. Sebagai contoh, negara China pun sama macam kita. Mereka ada berpuluh-puluh bahasa, tapi untuk menyatukan rakyat mereka, pemimpin negara China wajibkan rakyat mereka belajar Mandarin supaya boleh bergaul sesama mereka. |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 19 2020, 11:38 PM) You're missing the point. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who called others who don't know bahasa kebangsaan, but they themselves refused to learned other languages to communicate with them instead, and hide behind the "kebangsaan"/"national" label. Why is it a hypocrisy? Seriously dude you're on a lost crusade. National language is national language, no if, no buts. The fact that people want or not want to learn other vernacular language should not even be an issue.Again, as someone already said, National language which happened to be Bahasa Melayu accorsing to constitution is not just my language but our language, again, no if, no but. This post has been edited by aliesterfiend: Jan 19 2020, 11:44 PM |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:48 PM
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The point of bahasa kebangsaan is so that there is a common language for all citizens to communicate and understand one another, communication is the bedrock of any functional civilisation especially in a democracy which arguably is even more dependent on the electorate sharing a common vision to function properly, otherwise it'll just descend into tribalism and us vs them mentality, like Malaysia.
Asking everyone to learn everybody's else's language is counterproductive to this end, ideally yes everyone can speak 1 mil languages but a practical solution would need compromise and usually this means the path of least resistance i.e. choosing a language that the majority of the population uses. However just because a segment of society doesn't speak the language very well shouldn't be cause for them to be accused of being unpatriotic. It is highly unlikely they conciously chose to be not fluent in the national language. This phenomenon is actually just a symptom of some very deep rooted issues in our society that has allowed sectarianism and segregated societies to exist in parallel to each other, barely interacting with one another. Shouldn't be pointing fingers to the individuals but definitely something to be tackled at the national policy level. |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jan 19 2020, 11:43 PM) Bahasa kebangsaan ada satu sahaja Bro, aku setuju. Memang bagus kalau semua rakyat tau bahasa kebangsaan. Tapi kita adalah negara demokrasi, bukannya komunis. Memanglah bagus kalau semua tau bahasa kebangsaan tapi janganlah terlalu mengagungkannya sampai kutuk org yg tak tahu bahasa kebangsaan panggil mereka balik negara asal. Bahasa melayu dialeknya sangat banyak, ada Kelantan, Terengganu, Kedah, Melaka, KL, sarawak, Sabah, Perak semua bunyi lain lain bang. Ingat orang melayu Kedah faham ke apa orang Melayu Sarawak cakap? Macam bahasa cina kat Malaysia pun ada Hokkien, fuchow, Kanto India pun bukan semua Tamil speaker, ada juga yang cakap hindi, yang Singh cakap sinhalese Belom campur lagi dayak, dusun, Iban, minang, jawa dan berpuluh-puluh lagi dielek lain Apa maksud awak dengan bahasa lain? Yang mana satu, semua ke? Kan lebih mudah kalau satu negara kita seragamkan. Kita pakai Bahasa Malaysia. Kan senang, semua orang ada bahasa ibunda (mother tounge) masing-masing. Tak salah nak belajar bahasa lain tapi utamakan bahasa kebangsaan lepas bahasa ibunda sebab awak rakyat Malaysia. Nak belajar bahasa lain tu terpulanglah. Itu bagus. Sebagai contoh, negara China pun sama macam kita. Mereka ada berpuluh-puluh bahasa, tapi untuk menyatukan rakyat mereka, pemimpin negara China wajibkan rakyat mereka belajar Mandarin supaya boleh bergaul sesama mereka. Kepada mereka yang berbuat demikian, aku pun tanya balik, kenapa anda tidak belajar bahasa mereka untuk berkomunikasi dengan dia kalau dia tak reti bahasa kebangsaan? Apakah yang bukan melayu kena belajar bahasa kebangsaan tapi melayu tak payah belajar bahasa lain? Pakai je label "kebangsaan" cukup, mati mati depa kena belajar, ko takyah? Malaysia bukan negara berbliang kaum, budaya dan agama ke? This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jan 19 2020, 11:57 PM |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 19 2020, 11:44 PM) Why is it a hypocrisy? Seriously dude you're on a lost crusade. National language is national language, no if, no buts. The fact that people want or not want to learn other vernacular language should not even be an issue. as per my reply aboveAgain, as someone already said, National language which happened to be Bahasa Melayu accorsing to constitution is not just my language but our language, again, no if, no but. |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:55 PM
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5,170 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: /k//k/, /k/undasang |
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Jan 19 2020, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 19 2020, 09:43 PM) Stop your big mouth, disguising here with your dupe account will only show your evil intentions. Anyone can say they speak 100s of languages here. Your extremist kind better get lost then causing disharmony anymore in Malaysia. You’re obviously not capable of having a mature discussion. Simply labeling people as extremists doesn’t help anyone. Grow up and get lost you’re not helping. People like you will be responsible for the next race riots. Chinese already staying here for 200 years. They have no issue staying with everyone, until extremists like you started talking hatred and spreading fake news. Get lost dupe. Retard. |
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Jan 20 2020, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(mitun @ Jan 19 2020, 11:57 PM) You’re obviously not capable of having a mature discussion. Simply labeling people as extremists doesn’t help anyone. Grow up and get lost you’re not helping. People like you will be responsible for the next race riots. You think the nons will be scared off your riot threat? Bring it on extremist.Retard. And stay ignored you low life troublemakers, racist and extremist. You tak suka, go challenge the constitution to make all nons to speak fluent bahasa. Lastly I do not communicate with your kind, muka tebal like concrete kept quoting, kept posting fake news, twisting and all. |
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Jan 20 2020, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 19 2020, 11:53 PM) Bro, aku setuju. Memang bagus kalau semua rakyat tau bahasa kebangsaan. Tapi kita adalah negara demokrasi, bukannya komunis. Memanglah bagus kalau semua tau bahasa kebangsaan tapi janganlah terlalu mengagungkannya sampai kutuk org yg tak tahu bahasa kebangsaan panggil mereka balik negara asal. Kebangsaan = satu negara = satu komunitiKepada mereka yang berbuat demikian, aku pun tanya balik, kenapa anda tidak belajar bahasa mereka untuk berkomunikasi dengan dia kalau dia tak reti bahasa kebangsaan? Apakah yang bukan melayu kena belajar bahasa kebangsaan tapi melayu tak payah belajar bahasa lain? Pakai je label "kebangsaan" cukup, mati mati depa kena belajar, ko takyah? Tindakan sesetengah pihak untuk sengaja tidak menguasai bahasa kebangsaan dapat memecahbelahkan komuniti. Tujuan bahasa kebangsaan diwujudkan ialah supaya semua rakyat Malaysia dapat bergaul dalam satu komuniti. Saya rasa awak salah faham dan anggap semua bahasa melayu sama. Sini saya tunjukkan contoh Dielek Sarawak Dielek negeri sembilan Dielek Kelantan Awak ingat kalau orang Kelantan faham ke orang Sarawak cakap dielek mereka? Orang Sarawak, Negeri sembilan dan Kelantan pun kena belajar Bahasa Malaysia. Walaupun mereka melayu mereka tetap kena belajar bahasa kebangsaan bukan bahasa dielek mereka sahaja. |
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Jan 20 2020, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(mitun @ Jan 19 2020, 11:57 PM) You’re obviously not capable of having a mature discussion. Simply labeling people as extremists doesn’t help anyone. Grow up and get lost you’re not helping. People like you will be responsible for the next race riots. Hey bro don’t get mad, it’s ykj after all. He is an ultra like Dong Zong. He has more loyalty to Emperor Xi than the country he was born in.Retard. |
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Jan 20 2020, 12:17 AM
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Jan 20 2020, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 20 2020, 12:14 AM) You think the nons will be scared off your riot threat? Bring it on extremist. aku dah ckp... tak suka. dgn melayu pegilah jerit depan istana negara sana And stay ignored you low life troublemakers, racist and extremist. You tak suka, go challenge the constitution to make all nons to speak fluent bahasa. Lastly I do not communicate with your kind, muka tebal like concrete kept quoting, kept posting fake news, twisting and all. situ lah lord of ketuanan melayu bersidai tp diorang ni pengecut kalau nak buat next bersih.. jangan buat di kl.. buat di depan istana negara |
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Jan 20 2020, 12:27 AM
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During my skool days, many M fail BM, & many C pass BM. Own self cant speak own mother tongue properly.
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