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post Jan 15 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 12:08 PM)
if he can survive and live in the same building with you. maybe you should self reflect why you can know so much but still live with this kind of sampah??
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(esdome @ Jan 15 2020, 02:20 PM)

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tak faham... why unker=sampah?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:10 PM)
you are so wrong. in my "condo", there are these bunch of 30+ house wife aunty that can't speak and write malay. all the notice that the condo paste at the notice board keep asking us to translate for them (yes, its them, more than 10 of them at least). during the AGM, they also raise their question in chinese and ask us to translate with the alasan of "cannot speak english and BM well". these are all products of SJKC Foon Yew in JB.

regarding education, my mom (this year 60 years old) study until primary 6 only. she study in english medium school back then (convent). She can't speak mandarin and cannot read chinese. but she can speak okay level malay and english. all those chinese centric that can't speak BM and English are all products of SJKC. that is why SJKC/SJKT must be abolished. 1 medium school for all.
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erm, if those in their 30 are from sjkc then i have bad news for them and the school because sjkc still need take upsr pt3 spm in both bm/bi. probably they are from private school during secondary school? which later on they forget their BM all together?

i am also from sjkc but study in sekolah menegah and i have no issue in both BM and BI and in fact i got both a1 for it so whats wrong with sjkc? i only got a2 for chinese. kek


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post Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM

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how can you call yourself Malaysian if you cant even understand simple Bahasa Melayu let alone speak it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 12:07 PM)
todei my off day. so todei i layan /k, catching up on animes, play game abit... suddenly theres a knock at my house door. open it, i saw one chinese uncle standing in front of my house. he spoke to me in chinese, i replied 'sorry, can you speak in english, i couldnt understand chinese'

he then say 'ah, english ah' and some other chinese words. so thinking that he couldnt speak english, i ask him 'kalau english tak boleh, malay boleh cakap?'... he replied 'ok malay'

the next part shocked me. he couldnt even string a broken malay sentence, let alone a proper one.

unker:- 'bawah ah... bocor'
me:- 'apa yang bocor. gas? air? unker mau saya tolong apa?' (here i tot he was asking me to help him on something)
unker:- 'bukan... *pause* um... air bocor'
me:- 'air bocor? unker punya paip pecah?' (me thinking why call me, call plumber la laugh.gif)
unker:- 'bukan. atas *pointing at ceiling* bocor'
me:- (confused, just now say bawah bocor, now atas bocor... laugh.gif)

seeing that im confused, he whipped out his phone, and show me some photo. turns out the water from my toilet is leaking into his unit laugh.gif

so i ask him whether i can look at it (the unit) myself.

me:- 'boleh saya tengok kah?'
unker:- 'tengok?'
me:- 'tengok itu leaking'
unker :- 'tengok itu leaking?'
me:- 'saya mau tengok (pointing at my eyes) itu bocor'
unker:- 'ahh... okok'

we went to his house, i inspect the leaking, and took some picture. while looking around, i ask him
me:- 'unker, u orang malaysia?'
unker:- ya orang malaysia
me:- sudah lama tinggal kl?
unker :- 'tinggal kl?'
me:- gave up trying to speak to unker

this makes me think.. how this unker, cant speak english, barely even understand malay, can live in malaysia for so long? in my line of work, i sometimes meet rural ppl who cant to speak english, or malay, but can at least speak either one of the language. but this is the 1st time i meet someone who struggles with both language laugh.gif

srsly, how this unker survive in malaysia for so long, in the heart of KL sumore? and why he struggles with BM and english? he never went to school? laugh.gif

or hes a PRC? hmm.gif
As a proof that i am not simply opening a racial baiting thread, this is the water leaking photo
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Haha, base on your name, I think we are from the same state and race, and I have the same thought as well, I mean since we live in Malaysia, at least should have a good grasp of the BM language even if it is not our native language / mother tongue.


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QUOTE(ClessRV @ Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM)
Haha, base on your name, I think we are from the same state and race, and I have the same thought as well, I mean since we live in Malaysia, at least should have a good grasp of the BM language even if it is not our native language / mother tongue.
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santiki dlu! laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 12:08 PM)
if he can survive and live in the same building with you. maybe you should self reflect why you can know so much but still live with this kind of sampah??
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Dayummmm burn sial
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 12:08 PM)
if he can survive and live in the same building with you. maybe you should self reflect why you can know so much but still live with this kind of sampah??
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 02:13 PM)
i can understand if in kampung area, but in kl? u walk ten step already meet ahmad, walk another ten step, u meet raju...

idk i just cant imagine someone would self exile himself to his own community just because he lazy want to pick up another language laugh.gif
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kl area quite many chinese. plus u walk ten step you meet ahmad will you just simply go have a conversation with ppl ? the most u smile and go only ma. communication is 2 sided you know ? even he want pick another language he still need a willing person to talk to him and correct him.

macam ni lah, you become a good neighbour, spend your time to chat with him, teach him like a primary student and maybe in a year or 2 he can finally talk with you in malay.

you want the community change ? can, then you have to be part of the change. start with today, find uncle teach him.
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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ Jan 15 2020, 12:13 PM)
haha, i've encountered similar incidents as well. some chinese auntie talk to me in chinese as tho as i can understand them... while i'm a dark skinned indian. when replied in english or malay they just look confused.
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The dark skinned indian i buy comics from in Petaling Street there can speak Cantonese better then most org kl...

The dark skinned indian i buy mi hun kueh from can speak mandarin/hokkien fluently

Your point?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM)
kl area quite many chinese. plus u walk ten step you meet ahmad will you just simply go have a conversation with ppl ? the most u smile and go only ma. communication is 2 sided you know ? even he want pick another language he still need a willing person to talk to him and correct him.

macam ni lah, you become a good neighbour, spend your time to chat with him, teach him like a primary student and maybe in a year or 2 he can finally talk with you in malay.

you want the community change ? can, then you have to be part of the change. start with today, find uncle teach him.
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but unker didnt live in that unit... sad.gif unit is empty for as long as i can remember...
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM)
My point is the similarities between Indian languages and Malay language. The more similar it is, the easier to learn it.

Another example is both are agglutinative languages where as Chinese isn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language
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I get it, it a little bit harder unlike bangla one year already can communicate. But then is 50 years also not enough?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 02:22 PM)
tak faham... why unker=sampah?
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One is well educated and one is not. But both stay in the same building.

Both of you are under the same category. You should insaf why you are not doing better than the unker right? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:36 PM

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Few reason.

1. Probably uneducated and any gov related stuff ask kids to do cant even do alphabet. I heard my dad say his grand parent or even parent last time went JPN cant even spell the name to register for his kids and all different surname... or come out name with Ah Moi or something...

2. Thanks to communism and chinese new village initiative a lot of Chinese is segregated into their own community and have no need to interact with other races. If need any gov related thing they just ask their kids to deal with it

3. Unlikely due to SJKC, SJKC people worse case can speak broken BM.

4. Bangla different case mostly young able person trying to make a living. Bangla in chinese food court can speak better hokkien or cantonese than me... depends on the env they can master diff language damn good

5. Again there's no urgent need for them to do BM unlike when we go oversea and force to learn local language. They can depends on their kids and friends and a lot of time they hardly deal with gov stuff also.

6. Poverty many dropout of school when we just only had merdeka... that time not everyone can afford to have their kids to go to school. Need their kids to help working etc. Dad say last time many of his cousin only study till primary or maybe form 3. need to stop study and help out plus that time many chinese have a lot of kids unlike now thus even harder.

TBH I think this is an abandoned generation which we call them grandpa and grandma or old auntie uncle. Educated malaysian at least can speak broken BM.

BTW SJKC teach BM I dont get it why people assume SJKC dont teach BM so funny

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post Jan 15 2020, 02:36 PM

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got many people like that. dun have to be surprised. many stayed in rural areas/estate..living their whole life in that small bubble..work home work during their younger days.. now after kids grow up, they follow their kid to city n try to live in big community.. ive no problem with uncles and aunties that cant speak bahasa and english
but if u r below 30, and still cant understand bahasa, u deserve all the hate and no respect from fellow malaysian
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jan 15 2020, 02:29 PM)
Dayummmm burn sial
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can explain this? why unker=sampah?

i asked so many ppl, nobody explain it to me...
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM)
erm, if those in their 30 are from sjkc then i have bad news for them and the school because sjkc still need take upsr pt3 spm in both bm/bi. probably they are from private school during secondary school? which later on they forget their BM all together?

i am also from sjkc but study in sekolah menegah and i have no issue in both BM and BI and in fact i got both a1 for it so whats wrong with sjkc? i only got a2 for chinese. kek
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When people start commenting on "I am also from SJKC and I got A1 in BM blah blah", you fail to realise that you are belong to the top 50% of SJKC produce. The bottom 50% from SJKC all failed miserably in their BM and BI hence producing those that cannot even converse in basic BM and BI. I am not saying they will not become successful in life. 1 of my neighbor I know he is having the exact same problem as the aunties. Cannot speak english at all. BM also half rojak. But is he 4x MDRT selling insurance making more than 400k per annum. In his earnings, i respect he can be so successful. But as a Malaysian, I don't think he is even qualify to call himself 1 because he can't even speak well our national language.
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QUOTE(esdome @ Jan 15 2020, 02:36 PM)
One is well educated and one is not. But both stay in the same building.

Both of you are under the same category. You should insaf why you are not doing better than the unker right?  biggrin.gif
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oh.... now i get it... why i live in same building as him? idk, maybe because i dun want to commit to an expensive property when my plan in life is to go back to sabah when i reach 45?

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In kl know Cantonese only can survive.
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM)
I get it, it a little bit harder unlike bangla one year already can communicate. But then is 50 years also not enough?
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How much have you learn Chinese/Tamil?

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