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post Jan 15 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:37 PM)
yes, can survive, but wont u be struggling?
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struggling wat?
if u stay in ur race community, u will struggling?
if that uncle stay in other race community then he will learn it in some time anyway
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:43 PM

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TS bodoh and confuse as his bathroom leakage caused other unit problems but now want to turn it as his neighbour issue. Just admit it is you lah...
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jan 15 2020, 01:41 PM)
struggling wat?
if u stay in ur race community, u will struggling?
if that uncle stay in other race community then he will learn it in some time anyway
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struggling la. anything must find chinese speaking. official govt business, need to find translator. meet someone who want to speak to u but cant speak chinese, need a translator. go see dr, must find chinese dr...etcetcetc...

idk la mebe im just looking too deep into it laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(ngkau @ Jan 15 2020, 01:43 PM)
TS bodoh and confuse as his bathroom leakage caused other unit problems but now want to turn it as his neighbour issue. Just admit it is you lah...
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uh... no... if i just want to turn it into neighbour issue, why would i elaborate how the problem arise in the 1st place? laugh.gif


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post Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:37 PM)
yes, can survive, but wont u be struggling?
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wont suffer if you stay in a majority chinese community. those uncle auntie if older than 50 years old high chances they cant converse well in malay/english. problem is they didnt go to school/didnt finish school because poverty and basically last time government didnt provide free education like now.

my mum only manage to finish chinese primary school because need to work and earn money (no child labor law) and that time just after indepedence not long ago. if you are able to go ang mo school you are rich fella back then. my dad didnt finish his HSC but since joining sekolah menengah so no issue with his BM/BI.

not everyone has the opportunity to study like every kids now, thats why my mum always ask me to appreciate the opportunity. basically a 24 hours housewive has too little time for themselves. try to find a malaysian chinese at the age of 30 around that, they should be able to converse in BM/BI well.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM)
wont suffer if you stay in a majority chinese community. those uncle auntie if older than 50 years old high chances they cant converse well in malay/english. problem is they didnt go to school/didnt finish school because poverty and basically last time government didnt provide free education like now.

my mum only manage to finish chinese primary school because need to work and earn money (no child labor law) and that time just after indepedence not long ago. if you are able to go ang mo school you are rich fella back then. my dad didnt finish his HSC but since joining sekolah menengah so no issue with his BM/BI.

not everyone has the opportunity to study like every kids now, thats why my mum always ask me to appreciate the opportunity. basically a 24 hours housewive has too little time for themselves. try to find a malaysian chinese at the age of 30 around that, they should be able to converse in BM/BI well.
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ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time...

theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders...

but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM)
ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time...

theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders...

but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race?
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struggle to communicate with you lo.
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jan 15 2020, 01:22 PM)
This current BM unlike ancient BM, so many loanword from Chinese also
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My point is the similarities between Indian languages and Malay language. The more similar it is, the easier to learn it.

Another example is both are agglutinative languages where as Chinese isn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM)
ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time...

theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders...

but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race?
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actually those guys above already explained to you all the possibilities. just that you keep ignoring it. kapitan yap ah loy that open up KL probably didnt even speak a malay/english word but he was still damn rich.

in those uncles aunties early years (before independence), BM is not even the official language in malaya. they dont even feel compulsory to learn. just like now you dont speak chinese because it is not compulsory to learn even until now. would you still mingle with ppl that only speak chinese just like back in the days where malay only speak BM ?

i dont think so, because you are still not picking up chinese.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM)
ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time...

theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders...

but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race?
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You can't speak Malay / English, so you don't mix with Malay / English people much, and because you don't mix with Malay / English speaking people, you then didn't learn any Malay or English.

Its a vicious circle.

I was born in Selangor/KL, lived here my whole life.

Honestly people like what you describe exist, but very rare.

Even my racist father that failed the PMR of his day (he is 60+ now) knows more Malay than what you described.
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:09 PM

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i went to search for compulsory primary education, to my surprise, it was only started back in 2003

highly likely the uncle could be non educated
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM)
wont suffer if you stay in a majority chinese community. those uncle auntie if older than 50 years old high chances they cant converse well in malay/english. problem is they didnt go to school/didnt finish school because poverty and basically last time government didnt provide free education like now.

my mum only manage to finish chinese primary school because need to work and earn money (no child labor law) and that time just after indepedence not long ago. if you are able to go ang mo school you are rich fella back then. my dad didnt finish his HSC but since joining sekolah menengah so no issue with his BM/BI.

not everyone has the opportunity to study like every kids now, thats why my mum always ask me to appreciate the opportunity. basically a 24 hours housewive has too little time for themselves. try to find a malaysian chinese at the age of 30 around that, they should be able to converse in BM/BI well.
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you are so wrong. in my "condo", there are these bunch of 30+ house wife aunty that can't speak and write malay. all the notice that the condo paste at the notice board keep asking us to translate for them (yes, its them, more than 10 of them at least). during the AGM, they also raise their question in chinese and ask us to translate with the alasan of "cannot speak english and BM well". these are all products of SJKC Foon Yew in JB.

regarding education, my mom (this year 60 years old) study until primary 6 only. she study in english medium school back then (convent). She can't speak mandarin and cannot read chinese. but she can speak okay level malay and english. all those chinese centric that can't speak BM and English are all products of SJKC. that is why SJKC/SJKT must be abolished. 1 medium school for all.
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pekak.....so dunno what TS saying
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:06 PM)
actually those guys above already explained to you all the possibilities. just that you keep ignoring it. kapitan yap ah loy that open up KL probably didnt even speak a malay/english word but he was still damn rich.

in those uncles aunties early years (before independence), BM is not even the official language in malaya. they dont even feel compulsory to learn. just like now you dont speak chinese because it is not compulsory to learn even until now. would you still mingle with ppl that only speak chinese just like back in the days where malay only speak BM ?

i dont think so, because you are still not picking up chinese.
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i can understand if in kampung area, but in kl? u walk ten step already meet ahmad, walk another ten step, u meet raju...

idk i just cant imagine someone would self exile himself to his own community just because he lazy want to pick up another language laugh.gif
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QUOTE(feynman @ Jan 15 2020, 02:11 PM)
pekak.....so dunno what TS saying
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kemungkinan yang teramat besar laugh.gif

come to think of it, no wonder he understand when i point to my eyes and say bocor... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Jan 15 2020, 12:30 PM)
This post reminds me of Zhuhao daxian (bopi bopi) and Unker kimsim (Benefon)

Mind you, Unker kimsim/Benefon is a businessman in Sinkapork.
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 12:59 PM)
u missed the point of my reply

i know the struggles of not understanding the spoken language in my daily life. hence i at least try to learn the basics.

in the end i still struggles to speak, but i at least understand the language,

this unker, live for so long in malaysia, not understanding malay or english, he just tahan with the struggle? laugh.gif
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Actually my point is, u had better opportunity to access to better education than the uncle.
It's like asking a primary school 1 student to learn add math.
The learning curve is just too steep. Not everyone is a language genius.

It's like u r saying, if u r poor, why does one tahan mixing with poor people?

Rempit on the other hand, has no excuse of not knowing how to speak English, as it's a compulsory subject in Msian school.

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