hope tm can open their network and reduce price
i replace my alcaltel lucent I240G-T myself to huawei HG8240H only want SLID(ONT AUTHENTICATION) and TM system will auto configuration it

This post has been edited by lowck: Jun 18 2020, 11:05 PM

TM will not open their network because it's the only money cow for them to continue forcing wholesale to other ISPs who wants to provide fixed FTTH.

Our only hope for those in West Malaysia is Tenaga Nasional's Allo to expand their open fibre network to home users as fast as possible.

Allo Technology
https://allo.my/

Only if your housing areas has a competition and a separate network other than TM HSBB then only they'll start waking up.Currently most landed housing areas have no competition for them so they start to act big.

Sadly Time has no intention to cover existing brown field landed homes area where TM has already coverage.
Only Tenaga has the resource and money to do such big expansion.

I see them already covering some areas in Cyberjaya, Jasin, Melaka and Port Dickson. Maybe will soon expand to Perak and Penang and Kedah.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 18 2020, 11:13 PM

i'll waiting TNB expand thier infra and more singapore ISP like viewqwest and myrepublic supply thier service at malaysia

This post has been edited by lowck: Jun 18 2020, 11:22 PM

I have CTS FDB right in of my gate. Though i read some review on CTS celcom saying that connection is not stabil. Speed is fast but always get disconnected, i was just wonder because they using stock router?

For myself im using netgear orbi, would eager to try digi or celcom but scare tie to 2 years contract with lousy connections.

just walk in celcom and sign up thier plan maybe u will recommend it

Allo are already in the midst of expanding to secondary towns in Perak such as Menglembu, Papan and Silibin. Likewise, in Kedah, it will be Aman Jaya and Mergong. Their intention is to cover brownfields where TM isn't present (no UniFi, but has StreamyX).

It is 'easy and convenient' for TNB to lay infra as they will utilize their existing poles for electricity when laying fibre infra. Thus, not as much CAPEX and resource needed, as opposed to other players who have nothing (TM, Maxis, TIME....etc).

At the end of the day, laying fibre infra is still an expensive exercise and unless they reach a certain take-up rate, their ROI will be extremely ridiculous (taking many years to recover, with negative nett present value cash flow). Thus, don't really blame ISPs for not expanding to rural areas, simply because they know the ROI will be tough to achieve.

Celcom Fibre was initially launched from Tawau, Sabah. What I know is Celcom do not provide the username and password for user to customize or upgrade/replace to their own favorite high-end gaming routers. You have to stay with their provided router. If you really want to use your own higher-end router, you may have to setup as AP mode only.

No wonder I saw they were placing banners around and a booth at AEON Mid Town Mall, Menglembu selling Astro Home Fibre Broadband with symmetrical 50Mbps internet and IPTV for RM99 a month which is cheaper than TM HSBB standard pricing.

The banner also says "only exclusive for this area only".





Astro Expands Its Broadband Services with Allo Partnership
http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-new...tnership-240529

Drove around the housing and industrial area, I noticed that the TNB electricity utility poles for fibre optic cable on them with dome shaped cylinder junction boxes.

My parents home is just adjacent to the area sandwich between town, Station 18 and Menglembu. In front of my house, on the TNB electricity pole also got fibre but owned by Maxis for backhaul.

Maybe TNB Allo has big expansion plans coming for Ipoh soon Their state HQ for Perak is just located nearby at Jalan Lahat.

There are still many potential areas even right in the middle of Ipoh CBD such as Jalan Pasir Putih main road, many commercial shop houses still using Streamyx without fibre infra.


This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 19 2020, 01:15 PM

Do they use VLAN ID or IPoE for their fibre modems(ONT)? I heard that since its an open network, ISPs can supply their own equipment including the fibre modem/router to customers. No need TM technician to tag along and they don't require VLAN tagging just like Time Fibre.

The network is more advanced than TM HSBB as they can offer higher speed plans upto symmetrical 1Gbps.

Even their 100mbps is sold with symmetrical speed at 100mbps/100mbps.

But the drawback is the same like you told before, yes?

You mean private IP or CGNAT? That depends on the ISP. With an open access network, ISPs have greater freedom to implement what they want since they're just leasing spare fibres to them.

What active equipment(OLTs, switches, edge routers/concentrators), setup style or configuration is upto the ISP.
The open network just lease the dark spare fibres for extra revenues.

For TM HSBB however their network was badly planned or executed. It is more of a partial open network where partnering ISPs who buy wholesale from them still needs to use their active equipments such as fibre modems(ONTs), FDP pole boxes, roadside FDCs, OLTs before connecting back to their own servers/edge routers.

That is why the reason Time Fibre is so against joining TM's HSBB network because they don't want to be restricted by TM's policies. One example is to be forced to use VLAN tagging. You notice that their fibre modems are easier to setup with any off the shelve routers in the market? Their configuration is simpler and similar to Streamyx no need special VLAN tagging.Any router which can do PPPoE can just hook up the ONT and will work.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 19 2020, 02:14 PM

Hopefully someone in Sabah on Celcom Timur infra could confirm the drawback.

Drawback or not, the pros outweigh the cons for these open fibre networks which will eventually give TM a runs for its money.

Generally price for price comparison, they're cheaper with symmetrical speeds. The networks are newer allowing faster plans to be introduced.ISPs can choose not to use VLAN switching which makes it more troublesome to set up routers and IPoE instead of PPPoE. More choices of ISPs and no need to require 3rd party installer to set up the fibre modem. All can be done directly.

No need to use TM's active switching equipment or OLTs which introduces extra latency and hops.

I was just trying to stick to the thread

Is Celcom using the same infrastructure as tm?

I wanted to appy for unifi but they say port full.

yes, celcom in WM currently use Tm HSBB infra

dammit, i guess i can't have it installed at my house either

In West Malaysia, TNB is now building its open access fibre infra managed by its subsidiary Allo.
Celcom is also selling Home Fibre on their network.

Celcom had setup a booth there at their launch event.Also they have Astro, DiGi and Maxis.Got like 8 ISPs to choose from.

yeah but the coverage is really limited :'(

is it true that celcom didn't provide pppoe account, i alrdy had asus-ac68u :'(